woodguru

Opening statements by defense teams are a total plate of steaming crapola, they are like that in criminal prosecutions and they are like that here. The defense team can cross way over into complete lies that have no basis of proof...the proof comes when during the trial they are tasked with proving nothing is there when the prosecutors are providing proof statement by statement that proves they just said something that is not true. The prosecutors have a chance to show proof and say here it is, and the defence then has an opportunity to rebut this proof if there is any. Defense gets destroyed in the face of proof that cannot be defended.

If trials starting with opening statements ended after the opening statement by defense teams, trials would be done right there. In a true trial mode with witnesses and documents, t***h and the facts are what they are, and they are nearly impossible to defend against.

I want to hear the BS defense statements directly refuted, they all get trashed with facts...
...Ukraine got their aid...hah, that's a good one and with the facts laid out defense doesn't want to go there, they did not, special v**e had to be taken to extend the time because there wasn't enough left to properly contract the aid.
...Trump was worried about corruption...like events from several years ago means anything relevant as pertained to the urgent need for military aid against Russian attacks, which by the way happened between being authorized and getting the anti tank weapons they needed.
...Trump "gave" lethal aid when Obama hadn't...sounds great until you look at the facts. Trump didn't want to, he objected the whole time the case was being made for military aid to the degree he had said he would veto it. It passed with a wide enough margin that the senate could and would have overridden a veto, trump or his advisers had enough sense not to want to incur a veto override. Then restrictions were placed on where the anti tank weapons could be deployed, which was hundreds of miles away from the border in danger of being attacked with Russian tanks. Mulvaney in a recently revealed email said "we are worried about Putin's reaction to US military aid"....which begs the question why "we" would be worried about Putin, and who is "we"? Trump is the only one in this country worried about Putin's reaction, putin is the enemy of our allies, an adversary at best.

The right is running on rhetoric that gets trashed by facts and the t***h in this real trial setting, and the country needs that.

Liberty Tree

After a totally bogus, partisan impeachment process now Democrats whine about a real trial. Of course, their definition of a real trial is do everything their way with only the witnesses they want.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I can't imagine what sort of mental deterioration would compel someone to twist facts into a pack of lies. My guess would be a constant diet of CNN pablum.

Hug

Woody, where did you get a law degree?

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

BS!!!! It wasn't Mulvaney who said this -It was the reason obama administration gave as to reason no to give lethal military aid!!!!!

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I see....unlike Shiff who came covered in s**t and lies to spread around....yea, the defense is the problem.

I fear you may be too far gone woody, there is no way you can believe that tripe you just pounded out, and still think you can be taken seriously............that was pure twisted garbage and you know it.