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Jan 27, 2020 12:29:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.

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Jan 27, 2020 12:33:26   #
Liberty Tree
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.
Many who have testified were present when Bolton h... (show quote)


I do not trust the NYT spin at all.

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Jan 27, 2020 12:37:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I do not trust the NYT spin at all.


Nor should we!!

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Jan 27, 2020 12:41:46   #
CarryOn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.
Many who have testified were present when Bolton h... (show quote)


Agree with that. He's just another disgruntled employee like that weasel vindman who probably started this whole thing ...

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Jan 27, 2020 12:44:15   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.
Many who have testified were present when Bolton h... (show quote)


I'm sure his book is as t***hful as Comey's was!

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Jan 27, 2020 12:46:40   #
CarryOn
 
Noraa wrote:
I'm sure his book is as t***hful as Comey's was!



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Jan 27, 2020 12:53:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
CarryOn wrote:
Agree with that. He's just another disgruntled employee like that weasel vindman who probably started this whole thing ...


Absolutely, I think Vindman not only started this whole charade with his claim that Trump "demanded" an investigation into the Biden's but that he, Vindman, is the actual whistle blower! Vindman is a slime and his fellow servicemen say so!!

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Jan 27, 2020 13:00:00   #
waltmoreno
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.
Many who have testified were present when Bolton h... (show quote)


I hear he has the same book agent that Comey had. Whoda thunk? Birds of a feather ......

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Jan 27, 2020 13:01:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
waltmoreno wrote:
I hear he has the same book agent that Comey had. Whoda thunk? Birds of a feather ......


Yep, big surprise, right!?

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Jan 27, 2020 13:01:32   #
CarryOn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Absolutely, I think Vindman not only started this whole charade with his claim that Trump "demanded" an investigation into the Biden's but that he, Vindman, is the actual whistle blower! Vindman is a slime and his fellow servicemen say so!!


Agree ... If they do end up calling witnesses, I hope he and his fellow conspirator Ciaramella both get d**gged in front of the Senate and Justice Roberts to testify ... see how well they hold up under that kind of scrutiny ... without shifty to protect them from the big bad republicans who want to ask the hard questions ....

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Jan 27, 2020 13:03:55   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
waltmoreno wrote:
I hear he has the same book agent that Comey had. Whoda thunk? Birds of a feather ......


What I would like to know is why he wrote this book now. He couldn't wait until after the impeachment?

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Jan 27, 2020 13:08:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Noraa wrote:
What I would like to know is why he wrote this book now. He couldn't wait until after the impeachment?


It's all about exposure and cash. Bolton wants to be relevant; a pundit/opinion maker. I'd say cash, though, mainly!

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Jan 27, 2020 13:16:00   #
Radiance3
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many who have testified were present when Bolton heard the president say what he said and even if this is something Bolton claims he heard while alone with the president, it still doesn't jive with all the previous witness testimony. Trump dumped Bolton because he sensed he could not trust him. So, either Bolton is contradicting all the previous witnesses who never reported hearing something like this, or he's just a bowl of sour grapes trying to sell a book and get back at Trump for dumping him.

My guess is that the actual "book" won't contain what they claim it contains. I think Bolton walks away from this with exactly the same credibility that Comey now has.
Many who have testified were present when Bolton h... (show quote)

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The book was about gossip. Some dumb people believe that once a book is written it has to be the final judge to decide. That book must be proven by the writer in the Court of Law.

The Court's admissible evidence must be 1. The original transcript of the president's conversation with Ukraine president Zelensky. 2. The actual testimony of Zelensky.

Any other hearsay, innuendos, whispers, gossips could not be admissible. Those are not facts.

So many people are making money writing f**e stories about the impeachment trial of the president.


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Jan 27, 2020 13:44:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The book was about gossip. Some dumb people believe that once a book is written it has to be the final judge to decide. That book must be proven by the writer in the Court of Law.

The Court's admissible evidence must be 1. The original transcript of the president's conversation with Ukraine president Zelensky. 2. The actual testimony of Zelensky.

Any other hearsay, innuendos, whispers, gossips could not be admissible. Those are not facts.

So many people are making money writing f**e stories about the impeachment trial of the president.

=================== br The book was about gossip. ... (show quote)


Nice thing about a book though, Bolton would have to use the exactly language of the book, if testifying under oath.

But other wise, you are totally correct.

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Jan 27, 2020 15:51:45   #
vernon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I do not trust the NYT spin at all.


When I was young, abput 75 yrs ago, my daddy and I were walking down the dirt road . My dad was reading the the n y times. As we strolled home he finished reading. We were nearing the house when dad rolled up the paper and threw it in the ditch. There was a hog laying in the ditch. When the paper landed near the hog he got up and walked away.

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