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Jan 24, 2020 09:43:02   #
debeda
 
lindajoy wrote:
Ohhh come on. Rumi~ same thing said last election, need a different line here.. He’ll take America down, the end of America as we know it, etc....

Last three years has proven that Fallacy wrong... I know it’s opinion, just based on a few facts...You know like unemployment? The recession you guys have predicted for the last three years? Trade agreements/tariffs you guys said would never work? Securing our borders with three Supreme Court rulings upholding Trumps decisions to act rather than talk, you guys said were illegal, racist etc... Republic's ideals, principles, law, exceptionalism~~ being brought back... Can you just imagine how great we could be if both parties spent as much time on country issues as they have fighting over power and greed? Good grief we’d be unstoppable~~.. Oh never mind...
Have a great day tho, so much more to life than hate that’s for sure~~✨💫
Ohhh come on. Rumi~ same thing said last election... (show quote)


Well said, Lindajoy! And good morning to you young lady😊💞

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Jan 24, 2020 09:49:28   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Linda, you can't reason with Rumatoid.
He must have to spend to much time attending to his hemorrhoids, than getting the facts.

Rumatoid is his own worst enemy. Self defeating.
A blessing to America.


I can’t agree here, eagle... I do find reasoning with rumi and often agree with some of the things he speaks of too...We just have differing political opinions, all of us passion driven...

We’re here because we all want better for our country... Right or wrong in how we believe that should be achieved, that’s all..✨👍💫

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Jan 24, 2020 10:09:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
debeda wrote:
Well said, Lindajoy! And good morning to you young lady😊💞


Thank you precious... Good morning to you too~~ Always my pleasure~~.. Great post you made too~~~❤️

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Jan 24, 2020 10:15:56   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
I can’t agree here, eagle... I do find reasoning with rumi and often agree with some of the things he speaks of too...We just have differing political opinions, all of us passion driven...

We’re here because we all want better for our country... Right or wrong in how we believe that should be achieved, that’s all..✨👍💫


Well; in this case, you weren't able to get through to rumi.

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Jan 24, 2020 10:17:07   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Well; in this case, you weren't able to get through to rumi.


That happens a lot ..

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Jan 24, 2020 10:56:16   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Your reply is exactly what I expected. Making accusations with no proof and then treating them as if they are gospel.

I guess your expectation got in the way of your perception - lol!

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

We understand that the left has painted themselves into a corner and with their backs to the wall have nothing left but to lash out with unsubstantiated charges.

Serious accusation there, where's the proof? ...Or should I just treat your opinion as gospel. ;)

Let me ask you a question Bernie... which side is asking to consider evidence and which side is refusing to consider evidence? Can you at least figure that one out?

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

The first charges by the prosecution in the impeachment trial have been very embarrassing to the left. If this can't be called a sham then I don't know what might qualify as one.

I see, so when someone you want to protect is being charged, you dismiss the evidence then call the charge unsubstantiated. LOL!

I seriously doubt anyone can be stupid enough to fall for this. This is whole thing has turned into a test of how far people will go to deny the obvious.

nwtk2007 wrote:
I don't talk to straight up. It's impossible to have a train of thought when he writes a separate comment about every sentence of one's post.

Try writing sentences that don't reek of BS. ;)

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Jan 24, 2020 11:38:16   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Seth wrote:
When 90% of the media is left wing and leftists are known for lying, obfuscating, propaganda and transferrence, those "polling" results and other inferences that a destructive, America averse left wing president like Obama was "popular" with anyone outside "Americans" of the portside persuasion are as believable as the rest of the crud they feed the largely unsuspecting public.

1. 90% of the media is commercial, which means they are compelled to support perspectives that will attract an audience to their ad space. So logic dictates that if you disagree with 90% of the media, you are probably also disagreeing with 90% of American consumers.

2. Lying, obfuscating and transference are vices found on all sides and there's really no way to quantify it because most lies go undetected. You're throwing stones in a glass house pal.

3. polling results didn't give Obama two terms.

Seth wrote:

It's about as credible as "progressives" who tell us that mega-racist President Lyndon B. Johnson, the architect of the black welfare society and all the squalor, crime and misery it has embodied for over half a century, was a "hero of civil rights."

So is this all going to be baseless ranting or do you have any substantial facts like how LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

The "squalor, crime and misery" embodied by the "black welfare society" is the second phase of racial resentment following the 13th Amendment. The first one being the Jim Crow laws. The white folks that feel threatened by black folks hated the fact that they couldn't be chained up anymore. So they created a new system of oppression in the Jim Crow laws. When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, Jim Crow started to crumble and so now those feeble-minded white folks reverted to basic whining and crying about "squalor, crime and misery".

It's what spineless people do.

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Jan 24, 2020 12:59:02   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
lindajoy wrote:
I can’t agree here, eagle... I do find reasoning with rumi and often agree with some of the things he speaks of too...We just have differing political opinions, all of us passion driven...

We’re here because we all want better for our country... Right or wrong in how we believe that should be achieved, that’s all..✨👍💫


It's really good to see this kind of wisdom brought up every now and then linda. As much as people here disagree on details and philosophy, the one thing we all have in common is a concern for our country and it's people.

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Jan 24, 2020 13:21:20   #
Seth
 
straightUp wrote:
So is this all going to be baseless ranting or do you have any substantial facts like how LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

The "squalor, crime and misery" embodied by the "black welfare society" is the second phase of racial resentment following the 13th Amendment. The first one being the Jim Crow laws. The white folks that feel threatened by black folks hated the fact that they couldn't be chained up anymore. So they created a new system of oppression in the Jim Crow laws. When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, Jim Crow started to crumble and so now those feeble-minded white folks reverted to basic whining and crying about "squalor, crime and misery".

It's what spineless people do.
So is this all going to be baseless ranting or do ... (show quote)


Your entire post is little more than the justification of bad propaganda.

People look to the media for information, most trusting same to provide the product advertised. When they are fed lies, most take them as truth because of where they read or viewed them. If they knew it was disinformation, they wouldn't depend on those venues. Duh!

As regards the Civil Rights Act, why don't you visit Mr. Google and take a gander at how many (R)s vs how many (D)s voted for it?

The welfare thing was a separate issue, and when he signed it LBJ famously said, "This'll have the n-gg--s voting Democrat for the next 200 years."

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Jan 24, 2020 14:51:13   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
debeda wrote:
Rumi, you on the left always talk about "our ideals, principals, laws and exceptionalism". However, as I see it I do not share the left's "ideals and principles", and in fact find most of their actions and platforms repugnant. As far as laws, the Democrats seem to only like law when it suits them. Hence the sanctuary cities, gun laws, and refusal to recognize illegality from those in their party. I do not find anything about the Democrats exceptional, with the possible exception of their penchant to call evil good and good evil, and to make up bizarre things and insist everyone buys in. The shining city on the hill was turning into a rainbow hued insane asylum surrounded by poop filled sidewalks and hopeless people. Nope, I dont share much of the democrat mind set. My son once got frustrated with me and said "mom, you just want everybody loving each other and getting along, that's not the way life is!" Its true, I do want that, and cant stand the constant sturm and drang of the democratic platforms.....
Rumi, you on the left always talk about "our ... (show quote)


You are so right!!

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Jan 24, 2020 15:07:14   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
straightUp wrote:
Try writing sentences that don't reek of BS. ;)


Let me ask YOU a question regarding calling witnesses: Which side had the option of calling witnesses during the so-called impeachment hearing and which side refused to call more witnesses? Which side was it that said they have OVERWHELMING proof that Trump has committed high crimes and who now wants to call more witnesses? Which side is it that is going to try to use that against the Republicans by saying they don't want to call witnesses? Do you think the Democrats, with the aid of their accomplices in the media, are going to be able to sell this to the American voters, much less to Senators? Do you think that your little accusatory innuendos are really going to sway anyone? Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler are in the process of making complete fools of themselves before the entire Country and I'm sure most Democrats are happy that more people are watching this crap. I simply cannot believe that the Dems are trying to make this flimsy case in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. You may have noticed that they are not using any economic statistics or opinions expressed by foreign leaders at Davos who spoke favorably of Trump and the US policies. Of course one wouldn't really expect them to commit political suicide, would one?

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Jan 24, 2020 15:08:59   #
debeda
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You are so right!!



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Jan 24, 2020 17:26:27   #
nwtk2007
 
straightUp wrote:
Try writing sentences that don't reek of BS. ;)


You're a troll, nothing more.

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Jan 24, 2020 17:27:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Seth wrote:
Your entire post is little more than the justification of bad propaganda.

People look to the media for information, most trusting same to provide the product advertised. When they are fed lies, most take them as truth because of where they read or viewed them. If they knew it was disinformation, they wouldn't depend on those venues. Duh!

While this is true for some, it's not true for everyone. You might be correct in stating that most people trust the media, but a lot of people don't... I belong to that later category and it's not because I think they're liars... it's because they're people (and people make mistakes). So as a former journalist myself I don't take anything as gospel truth without some verification of my own, be it multiple sources, whether or not it makes logical sense and so on. After a while, you start to learn which media channels have better records when it comes to accuracy.

I find ALL the MSM channels (except Fox) are fairly diligent when it comes to journalistic integrity and it makes sense for the very reason you already mentioned... if they weren't so diligent, we wouldn't depend on them.

Sadly, there's another reaction to the media that you missed... Those who seek information not for it's accuracy but for it's support for an argument. I KNOW a lot of people on this site scrounge the media specifically for stories that back up their narrative even if it's not true.

Seth wrote:

As regards the Civil Rights Act, why don't you visit Mr. Google and take a gander at how many (R)s vs how many (D)s voted for it?

Why would that matter? That bill was signed during the sixth party system when the Democrats were conservatives and Republicans were liberals. (I sure hope you are choosing your party based on your principals not not the other way around.)

Seth wrote:

The welfare thing was a separate issue, and when he signed it LBJ famously said, "This'll have the n-gg--s voting Democrat for the next 200 years."

Well, he's right so far... and maybe that's why he did it - who knows? I doubt any party can hold its ground for 200 years though.

Fun fact : did you know the predecessor to the Democratic Party was called the Democratic-Republican Party and that people just called them Republicans? That was during the First Party System.

Dynamics my friend, it's a thing.

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Jan 24, 2020 17:31:29   #
Bosty Loc: South jersey
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, he's right so far... and maybe that's why he did it - who knows? I doubt any party can hold its ground for 200 years though.

Fun fact : did you know the predecessor to the Democratic Party was called the Democratic-Republican Party and that people just called them Republicans? That was during the First Party System.

Dynamics my friend, it's a thing.


Straight up has smoked to much good California weed an is well smoked
Over.

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