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Jan 17, 2020 07:09:21   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go throughout all the Earth

The Hebrew "ishshah" in Zechariah 5 is not the masculine Hebrew "woman" in a basket, but the feminine Hebrew (ICBM) "Fire offering."

In Chapter Five, an end times prophecy from the prophet Zechariah, written 2,500 years ago, warns of a coming nuclear holocaust, but past generations could not understand its message of an Iranian nuclear ICBM.

The original autographs of God's Word were perfect; however, somewhere in translation, the masculine meaning of the Hebrew word "Ishshah," meaning woman was used, instead of the feminine Hebrew, which is "fire offering."

Zechariah's prophecy may make one's hair stand on end, for this generation is able to comprehend the long misunderstood mysterious meaning of the prophet's ancient vision, and it reads like newspaper headlines that have been seen in the last month.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCh54zN7hc

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FwRQmb4SIk

Part Three: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XreWMcFjY

During the time of the Prophet Zechariah (520 -519 BCE), the land of Iran was ruled by Darius the Great.
Before the reign of Darius the Great, the Kingdom of Babylon had gained an expansive area in Iran; The kingdom of Babylon is the term used to mean the "Land of Shinar."

Maps of the time show this is where the Media (home of the ancient Medes, whose descendants are now called the Kurds) province was located. This province was once under the kingdom of Babylon which was also called "the Land of Shinar" at the time of Zechariah.

Zechariah 5:1- 2 "And I again lifted up my eyes and looked. And behold! A flying scroll."
And he said to me, What do you see? And I answered, I see a flying scroll; its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits."

Convert these dimensions to Inches we get:

1 royal cubit = 20.61 inches
20 cubits x 20.61 = 412.2 inches
412.2 inches divide by 12 = 34.35 feet. This is the length of the scroll

To get the diameter D (here we need to assume that the width is given in circumference), so D = 10 divide by pi (3.1416) = 3.183 cubits
3.183x 20.61 = 65.6 inches
65.6 inches divided by 12 = 5.47 feet. This is the diameter of the flying scroll, - actually the cover for the scroll.

It is the dimensions of many of the military missiles of the nations of the world.

Zechariah 5:3 And he said to me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth; for from now on everyone who steals shall be cut off according to it; and everyone who swears from now on shall be cut off according to it.

There are three things to consider here.

1. That the destruction caused by this flying scroll is called a CURSE. What is the curse?

2. It will kill and destroy only the person who is branded by the LORD OF HOST as a thief. Moreover it will destroy the homes of the peoples classified as thieves. Who is the Lord of Host? His name is Yeshua (Jesus). Yeshua was the One who instructed the angel of the Lord to give the vision to Zechariah. And when Jesus appeared in the flesh in AD 29-32, He gave us the clue as to how to identify a thief.

John 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
John 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
John 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
John 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice.
John 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.
John 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them.
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture.

3. The flying scrolls (as the angel of the Lord indicated to Zechariah) there are "many" of this scroll being set with a launching pad (base).

Zec 5:4 "I will bring it forth, says Jehovah of Hosts; and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by My name. And it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall devour it, and its timber and its stones."

Again , the angel of the Lord reiterated to the Prophet on whom this curse will fall. Moreover he mentioned YHVH of Host as an assurance that these flying missiles will surely afflict only the house of the thief. It will devastate the houses of the spiritual thieves only.

Zechariah 5:5-6: "Then the angel who talked with me went forth and said to me, Now lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth.
And I said, What is it? And he said, This is the ephah that goes forth. And he said, This is their form in all the earth."
The ephah is a container of measurement. This word is translated in other books as basket or container

The phrase "This is their form in all the earth" means everywhere these scrolls/missiles are set their appearance are all the same.

Zec 5:7 And behold, a lead cover was lifted up, and a woman was sitting in the middle of the ephah.
And see, when the protective lead cover shield was dismantled, a fire (offering) is set in the center of the container.

Here we need to replace the word "woman" with "fire offering"

A "fire offering" is a description that life will be cut off by the use of a fire source - destruction by fire or explosion. Contrast this with burnt offering which is usually referring to the offering of animals (killing them) and burning them.

Later translators who wrote "woman" instead of "fire offering" were not true to an understanding of the original context of this phrase since both words have the same wording in the Hebrew letters.

This very same Hebrew word which has been written "woman" in Zechariah appears in the book of Exodus meaning "fire offering."

"And behold, the cover of lead was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. This is Wickedness,” he said. And he shoved her down into the basket, pushing down the lead cover over its opening." (Zechariah 5:7-8)

What is the purpose of the Lead cover?

The metal lead is one of the best materials to shield one from deadly radiation specially those of the Beta and Gamma rays.

"And I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, two women came out.
And the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork. And they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens." (Zechariah 5:9)

“Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking with me.
"And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base." (Zechariah 5:10-11)

The place where the flying missiles are to be set on their own base, is now part of Iran, the ancient province of the Medes, and now their descendants, the Kurds, and the southern areas which were part of the ancient land called the Land of Shinar, after the flood.
Zechariah's flying scroll cover
Zechariah's flying scroll cover...
Hebrew "ishshah" in Strongs numbers
Hebrew "ishshah" in Strongs numbers...
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Lead shield engineering...
Iran (Persia) 490 B.C.
Iran (Persia) 490 B.C....
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Iran Nuclear Locations...

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Jan 17, 2020 09:22:47   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Zemirah wrote:
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go throughout all the Earth

The Hebrew "ishshah" in Zechariah 5 is not the masculine Hebrew "woman" in a basket, but the feminine Hebrew (ICBM) "Fire offering."

In Chapter Five, an end times prophecy from the prophet Zechariah, written 2,500 years ago, warns of a coming nuclear holocaust, but past generations could not understand its message of an Iranian nuclear ICBM.

The original autographs of God's Word were perfect; however, somewhere in translation, the masculine meaning of the Hebrew word "Ishshah," meaning woman was used, instead of the feminine Hebrew, which is "fire offering."

Zechariah's prophecy may make one's hair stand on end, for this generation is able to comprehend the long misunderstood mysterious meaning of the prophet's ancient vision, and it reads like newspaper headlines that have been seen in the last month.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCh54zN7hc

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FwRQmb4SIk

Part Three: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XreWMcFjY

During the time of the Prophet Zechariah (520 -519 BCE), the land of Iran was ruled by Darius the Great.
Before the reign of Darius the Great, the Kingdom of Babylon had gained an expansive area in Iran; The kingdom of Babylon is the term used to mean the "Land of Shinar."

Maps of the time show this is where the Media (home of the ancient Medes, whose descendants are now called the Kurds) province was located. This province was once under the kingdom of Babylon which was also called "the Land of Shinar" at the time of Zechariah.

Zechariah 5:1- 2 "And I again lifted up my eyes and looked. And behold! A flying scroll."
And he said to me, What do you see? And I answered, I see a flying scroll; its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits."

Convert these dimensions to Inches we get:

1 royal cubit = 20.61 inches
20 cubits x 20.61 = 412.2 inches
412.2 inches divide by 12 = 34.35 feet. This is the length of the scroll

To get the diameter D (here we need to assume that the width is given in circumference), so D = 10 divide by pi (3.1416) = 3.183 cubits
3.183x 20.61 = 65.6 inches
65.6 inches divided by 12 = 5.47 feet. This is the diameter of the flying scroll, - actually the cover for the scroll.

It is the dimensions of many of the military missiles of the nations of the world.

Zechariah 5:3 And he said to me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth; for from now on everyone who steals shall be cut off according to it; and everyone who swears from now on shall be cut off according to it.

There are three things to consider here.

1. That the destruction caused by this flying scroll is called a CURSE. What is the curse?

2. It will kill and destroy only the person who is branded by the LORD OF HOST as a thief. Moreover it will destroy the homes of the peoples classified as thieves. Who is the Lord of Host? His name is Yeshua (Jesus). Yeshua was the One who instructed the angel of the Lord to give the vision to Zechariah. And when Jesus appeared in the flesh in AD 29-32, He gave us the clue as to how to identify a thief.

John 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
John 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
John 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
John 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice.
John 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.
John 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them.
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture.

3. The flying scrolls (as the angel of the Lord indicated to Zechariah) there are "many" of this scroll being set with a launching pad (base).

Zec 5:4 "I will bring it forth, says Jehovah of Hosts; and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by My name. And it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall devour it, and its timber and its stones."

Again , the angel of the Lord reiterated to the Prophet on whom this curse will fall. Moreover he mentioned YHVH of Host as an assurance that these flying missiles will surely afflict only the house of the thief. It will devastate the houses of the spiritual thieves only.

Zechariah 5:5-6: "Then the angel who talked with me went forth and said to me, Now lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth.
And I said, What is it? And he said, This is the ephah that goes forth. And he said, This is their form in all the earth."
The ephah is a container of measurement. This word is translated in other books as basket or container

The phrase "This is their form in all the earth" means everywhere these scrolls/missiles are set their appearance are all the same.

Zec 5:7 And behold, a lead cover was lifted up, and a woman was sitting in the middle of the ephah.
And see, when the protective lead cover shield was dismantled, a fire (offering) is set in the center of the container.

Here we need to replace the word "woman" with "fire offering"

A "fire offering" is a description that life will be cut off by the use of a fire source - destruction by fire or explosion. Contrast this with burnt offering which is usually referring to the offering of animals (killing them) and burning them.

Later translators who wrote "woman" instead of "fire offering" were not true to an understanding of the original context of this phrase since both words have the same wording in the Hebrew letters.

This very same Hebrew word which has been written "woman" in Zechariah appears in the book of Exodus meaning "fire offering."

"And behold, the cover of lead was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. This is Wickedness,” he said. And he shoved her down into the basket, pushing down the lead cover over its opening." (Zechariah 5:7-8)

What is the purpose of the Lead cover?

The metal lead is one of the best materials to shield one from deadly radiation specially those of the Beta and Gamma rays.

"And I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, two women came out.
And the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork. And they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens." (Zechariah 5:9)

“Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking with me.
"And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base." (Zechariah 5:10-11)

The place where the flying missiles are to be set on their own base, is now part of Iran, the ancient province of the Medes, and now their descendants, the Kurds, and the southern areas which were part of the ancient land called the Land of Shinar, after the flood.
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go... (show quote)


That cleared some things up for me, especially the word translations and dimensions. The rest I knew from other prophetic teachers, like Bill Salus. Thanks!

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Jan 17, 2020 13:49:17   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Peewee wrote:
That cleared some things up for me, especially the word translations and dimensions. The rest I knew from other prophetic teachers, like Bill Salus. Thanks!


Good translation! The question is "When?"

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Jan 17, 2020 14:16:32   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
manning5 wrote:
Good translation! The question is "When?"


Soon is my best guess. God controls the time clock and that has a lot to do with Israel.

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Jan 17, 2020 15:56:16   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Peewee wrote:
Soon is my best guess. God controls the time clock and that has a lot to do with Israel.


Soon? I hope a few more years!

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Jan 17, 2020 18:32:34   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
manning5 wrote:
Soon? I hope a few more years!


No one knows the day or hour but I'd guess less than thirty years. Less if the big rock slams us.

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Jan 17, 2020 23:46:55   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
One calamity at a time will be sufficient to contemplate, Peewee.

If slammed by a massive alien "big rock" first, the onslaught of dozens of Iranian missiles will hardly matter...

In reverse, if the missiles arrive first, the subsequent arrival of the "big rock" will be of little concern.

However, because the missiles are there in Zechariah, in God's prophecy, I believe they are a surer bet to occur... although there is "wormwood" in Revelation.

Revelation 8:10-11: "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood."

Is that what you're contemplating?


Peewee wrote:
No one knows the day or hour but I'd guess less than thirty years. Less if the big rock slams us.

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Jan 17, 2020 23:59:29   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Zemirah wrote:
One calamity at a time will be sufficient to contemplate, Peewee.

If slammed by a massive alien "big rock" first, the onslaught of dozens of Iranian missiles will hardly matter...

In reverse, if the missiles arrive first, the subsequent arrival of the "big rock" will be of little concern.

However, because the missiles are there in Zechariah, in God's prophecy, I believe they are a surer bet to occur... although there is "wormwood" in Revelation.

Revelation 8:10-11: "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood."

Is that what you're contemplating?
One calamity at a time will be sufficient to conte... (show quote)


Just how many ways are you contemplating for us to be made into scrambled eggs?

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Jan 18, 2020 00:13:48   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Thank you for your question, manning,

That's the first time I've laughed today.

In all actuality, I really hate to be taken by surprise.

It is much more satisfying to be aware of the possibilities.

You just made me hungry, -

I'm now contemplating a trip to the kitchen to survey the on-hand egg supply.


manning5 wrote:
Just how many ways are you contemplating for us to be made into scrambled eggs?

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Jan 18, 2020 12:10:40   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go throughout all the Earth

The Hebrew "ishshah" in Zechariah 5 is not the masculine Hebrew "woman" in a basket, but the feminine Hebrew (ICBM) "Fire offering."

In Chapter Five, an end times prophecy from the prophet Zechariah, written 2,500 years ago, warns of a coming nuclear holocaust, but past generations could not understand its message of an Iranian nuclear ICBM.

The original autographs of God's Word were perfect; however, somewhere in translation, the masculine meaning of the Hebrew word "Ishshah," meaning woman was used, instead of the feminine Hebrew, which is "fire offering."

Zechariah's prophecy may make one's hair stand on end, for this generation is able to comprehend the long misunderstood mysterious meaning of the prophet's ancient vision, and it reads like newspaper headlines that have been seen in the last month.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCh54zN7hc

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FwRQmb4SIk

Part Three: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XreWMcFjY

During the time of the Prophet Zechariah (520 -519 BCE), the land of Iran was ruled by Darius the Great.
Before the reign of Darius the Great, the Kingdom of Babylon had gained an expansive area in Iran; The kingdom of Babylon is the term used to mean the "Land of Shinar."

Maps of the time show this is where the Media (home of the ancient Medes, whose descendants are now called the Kurds) province was located. This province was once under the kingdom of Babylon which was also called "the Land of Shinar" at the time of Zechariah.

Zechariah 5:1- 2 "And I again lifted up my eyes and looked. And behold! A flying scroll."
And he said to me, What do you see? And I answered, I see a flying scroll; its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits."

Convert these dimensions to Inches we get:

1 royal cubit = 20.61 inches
20 cubits x 20.61 = 412.2 inches
412.2 inches divide by 12 = 34.35 feet. This is the length of the scroll

To get the diameter D (here we need to assume that the width is given in circumference), so D = 10 divide by pi (3.1416) = 3.183 cubits
3.183x 20.61 = 65.6 inches
65.6 inches divided by 12 = 5.47 feet. This is the diameter of the flying scroll, - actually the cover for the scroll.

It is the dimensions of many of the military missiles of the nations of the world.

Zechariah 5:3 And he said to me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth; for from now on everyone who steals shall be cut off according to it; and everyone who swears from now on shall be cut off according to it.

There are three things to consider here.

1. That the destruction caused by this flying scroll is called a CURSE. What is the curse?

2. It will kill and destroy only the person who is branded by the LORD OF HOST as a thief. Moreover it will destroy the homes of the peoples classified as thieves. Who is the Lord of Host? His name is Yeshua (Jesus). Yeshua was the One who instructed the angel of the Lord to give the vision to Zechariah. And when Jesus appeared in the flesh in AD 29-32, He gave us the clue as to how to identify a thief.

John 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
John 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
John 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
John 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice.
John 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.
John 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them.
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture.

3. The flying scrolls (as the angel of the Lord indicated to Zechariah) there are "many" of this scroll being set with a launching pad (base).

Zec 5:4 "I will bring it forth, says Jehovah of Hosts; and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by My name. And it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall devour it, and its timber and its stones."

Again , the angel of the Lord reiterated to the Prophet on whom this curse will fall. Moreover he mentioned YHVH of Host as an assurance that these flying missiles will surely afflict only the house of the thief. It will devastate the houses of the spiritual thieves only.

Zechariah 5:5-6: "Then the angel who talked with me went forth and said to me, Now lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth.
And I said, What is it? And he said, This is the ephah that goes forth. And he said, This is their form in all the earth."
The ephah is a container of measurement. This word is translated in other books as basket or container

The phrase "This is their form in all the earth" means everywhere these scrolls/missiles are set their appearance are all the same.

Zec 5:7 And behold, a lead cover was lifted up, and a woman was sitting in the middle of the ephah.
And see, when the protective lead cover shield was dismantled, a fire (offering) is set in the center of the container.

Here we need to replace the word "woman" with "fire offering"

A "fire offering" is a description that life will be cut off by the use of a fire source - destruction by fire or explosion. Contrast this with burnt offering which is usually referring to the offering of animals (killing them) and burning them.

Later translators who wrote "woman" instead of "fire offering" were not true to an understanding of the original context of this phrase since both words have the same wording in the Hebrew letters.

This very same Hebrew word which has been written "woman" in Zechariah appears in the book of Exodus meaning "fire offering."

"And behold, the cover of lead was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. This is Wickedness,” he said. And he shoved her down into the basket, pushing down the lead cover over its opening." (Zechariah 5:7-8)

What is the purpose of the Lead cover?

The metal lead is one of the best materials to shield one from deadly radiation specially those of the Beta and Gamma rays.

"And I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, two women came out.
And the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork. And they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens." (Zechariah 5:9)

“Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking with me.
"And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base." (Zechariah 5:10-11)

The place where the flying missiles are to be set on their own base, is now part of Iran, the ancient province of the Medes, and now their descendants, the Kurds, and the southern areas which were part of the ancient land called the Land of Shinar, after the flood.
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go... (show quote)


Excellent there Zemirah thanks for this explanation and I am to assume that this will occur after the rapture?

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Jan 18, 2020 12:21:12   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Zemirah wrote:
Thank you for your question, manning,

That's the first time I've laughed today.

In all actuality, I really hate to be taken by surprise.

It is much more satisfying to be aware of the possibilities.

You just made me hungry, -

I'm now contemplating a trip to the kitchen to survey the on-hand egg supply.


I had just had a snack of scrambled eggs, so the question was at hand.
I do agree that knowing the possibilities is more satisfactory, but their memory will outlast my delight in eggs, unfortunately.

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Jan 18, 2020 22:12:33   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
No, not unless you can explain with Scripture how it can occur during the Tribulation? It's going to be really crowded getting it in then; the Anti-Christ will be in control, after he has conned Israel into trusting him to keep a peace treaty with them, and he will be dictator over all the earth.

It can't occur after the Tribulation because that's when Jesus Christ finishes the battle of Armageddon with the sword of His mouth, defeating the Anti-Christ, upon His return to Earth accompanied by His raptured church, all now clothed in white linen.

The location from which the missiles appear to be launched in Zechariah 5, where each is resting on its base, is from biblical Elam, as shown in the map.

The long awaited invasion of Israel foretold in Ezekiel 38-39 will happen before the Rapture, and the line up of nations in the coalition that will accompany Russia, Iran and Turkey does not include Elam, which is the location of Iran's largest nuclear facility now, so they're destroyed by the U.S. and/or Israel as a result of this attack described in Zechariah 5, before the Ezekiel 38-39 war ever takes place.

Ezekiel 38-39 must occur before Armageddon, as they are not the same battles. After the Ezekiel battle, it takes them seven years to bury the dead, and after the battle of Armageddon, it say the dead are not buried, but are left exposed.

When Elam's destruction was foretold in Jeremiah 49, it was a separate country than Iran, although now it is a part of Iran, within Iran's south eastern border.

It seems as if this Zechariah 5 attack could take place as soon as Iran has sufficient nuclear warhead missiles to go for it.

We know only the Elam area of Iran will be destroyed in retaliation at that time (in fulfillment of this particular prophecy), because God says the rest of Iran will be there to join with Russia, Turkey, Libya and Syria in attacking Israel in Ezekiel 38-39. He is going to destroy those countries personally in such a way at that time, on the mountains of Israel, that it will be obvious to the whole world that it is He, the God of Israel, that has destroyed their enemies.

So, when do you think an opportune time for this Zechariah battle would be?


bahmer wrote:
Excellent there Zemirah thanks for this explanation and I am to assume that this will occur after the rapture?

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Jan 18, 2020 22:15:59   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
Zemirah wrote:
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go throughout all the Earth

The Hebrew "ishshah" in Zechariah 5 is not the masculine Hebrew "woman" in a basket, but the feminine Hebrew (ICBM) "Fire offering."

In Chapter Five, an end times prophecy from the prophet Zechariah, written 2,500 years ago, warns of a coming nuclear holocaust, but past generations could not understand its message of an Iranian nuclear ICBM.

The original autographs of God's Word were perfect; however, somewhere in translation, the masculine meaning of the Hebrew word "Ishshah," meaning woman was used, instead of the feminine Hebrew, which is "fire offering."

Zechariah's prophecy may make one's hair stand on end, for this generation is able to comprehend the long misunderstood mysterious meaning of the prophet's ancient vision, and it reads like newspaper headlines that have been seen in the last month.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCh54zN7hc

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FwRQmb4SIk

Part Three: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XreWMcFjY

During the time of the Prophet Zechariah (520 -519 BCE), the land of Iran was ruled by Darius the Great.
Before the reign of Darius the Great, the Kingdom of Babylon had gained an expansive area in Iran; The kingdom of Babylon is the term used to mean the "Land of Shinar."

Maps of the time show this is where the Media (home of the ancient Medes, whose descendants are now called the Kurds) province was located. This province was once under the kingdom of Babylon which was also called "the Land of Shinar" at the time of Zechariah.

Zechariah 5:1- 2 "And I again lifted up my eyes and looked. And behold! A flying scroll."
And he said to me, What do you see? And I answered, I see a flying scroll; its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits."

Convert these dimensions to Inches we get:

1 royal cubit = 20.61 inches
20 cubits x 20.61 = 412.2 inches
412.2 inches divide by 12 = 34.35 feet. This is the length of the scroll

To get the diameter D (here we need to assume that the width is given in circumference), so D = 10 divide by pi (3.1416) = 3.183 cubits
3.183x 20.61 = 65.6 inches
65.6 inches divided by 12 = 5.47 feet. This is the diameter of the flying scroll, - actually the cover for the scroll.

It is the dimensions of many of the military missiles of the nations of the world.

Zechariah 5:3 And he said to me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth; for from now on everyone who steals shall be cut off according to it; and everyone who swears from now on shall be cut off according to it.

There are three things to consider here.

1. That the destruction caused by this flying scroll is called a CURSE. What is the curse?

2. It will kill and destroy only the person who is branded by the LORD OF HOST as a thief. Moreover it will destroy the homes of the peoples classified as thieves. Who is the Lord of Host? His name is Yeshua (Jesus). Yeshua was the One who instructed the angel of the Lord to give the vision to Zechariah. And when Jesus appeared in the flesh in AD 29-32, He gave us the clue as to how to identify a thief.

John 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
John 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
John 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
John 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice.
John 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.
John 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them.
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture.

3. The flying scrolls (as the angel of the Lord indicated to Zechariah) there are "many" of this scroll being set with a launching pad (base).

Zec 5:4 "I will bring it forth, says Jehovah of Hosts; and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by My name. And it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall devour it, and its timber and its stones."

Again , the angel of the Lord reiterated to the Prophet on whom this curse will fall. Moreover he mentioned YHVH of Host as an assurance that these flying missiles will surely afflict only the house of the thief. It will devastate the houses of the spiritual thieves only.

Zechariah 5:5-6: "Then the angel who talked with me went forth and said to me, Now lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth.
And I said, What is it? And he said, This is the ephah that goes forth. And he said, This is their form in all the earth."
The ephah is a container of measurement. This word is translated in other books as basket or container

The phrase "This is their form in all the earth" means everywhere these scrolls/missiles are set their appearance are all the same.

Zec 5:7 And behold, a lead cover was lifted up, and a woman was sitting in the middle of the ephah.
And see, when the protective lead cover shield was dismantled, a fire (offering) is set in the center of the container.

Here we need to replace the word "woman" with "fire offering"

A "fire offering" is a description that life will be cut off by the use of a fire source - destruction by fire or explosion. Contrast this with burnt offering which is usually referring to the offering of animals (killing them) and burning them.

Later translators who wrote "woman" instead of "fire offering" were not true to an understanding of the original context of this phrase since both words have the same wording in the Hebrew letters.

This very same Hebrew word which has been written "woman" in Zechariah appears in the book of Exodus meaning "fire offering."

"And behold, the cover of lead was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. This is Wickedness,” he said. And he shoved her down into the basket, pushing down the lead cover over its opening." (Zechariah 5:7-8)

What is the purpose of the Lead cover?

The metal lead is one of the best materials to shield one from deadly radiation specially those of the Beta and Gamma rays.

"And I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, two women came out.
And the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork. And they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens." (Zechariah 5:9)

“Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking with me.
"And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base." (Zechariah 5:10-11)

The place where the flying missiles are to be set on their own base, is now part of Iran, the ancient province of the Medes, and now their descendants, the Kurds, and the southern areas which were part of the ancient land called the Land of Shinar, after the flood.
Nuclear ICBM Fire Offerings/Judgments that will go... (show quote)


This was really a good one! I wish you could teach a Bible Study. What fun we would have!

I remember this coming up in our Bible Study group years ago and we were all totally stumped! Our instructor had a different interpretation!

I hope you’re enjoying this winter. The weather down here is amazing! WARM......my bones don’t hurt!

Thanks for taking the time to share some more of your love of the Bible!
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Jan 18, 2020 23:14:39   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
There is always more to contemplate:

There is another prophecy concerning Iran that possibly precedes the Gog and Magog scenario outlined by Ezekiel. In Jeremiah 49:34-39, we are told that Elam will come under the judgement of God for conspiring to launch an attack against Israel in the “latter days”. Modern day Iran is comprised of ancient Elam (about one-tenth) and Persia. This prophecy concerning Iran has not yet been fulfilled but seems to align with Iran’s current nuclear aspirations! Let's see the prophecy in Jeremiah 49:35-39...

35 "Thus saith the Lord of hosts; 'Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.'"

Jeremiah predicts that Elam will be struck at the foremost place of its strength. Today, this could infer an attack upon Iran's growing nuclear program. One of Iran’s most strategic and vulnerable nuclear targets is the Bushehr nuclear reactor, located in the heart of ancient Elam.

Jeremiah also predicts that Iran will suffer the fate of a broken bow. When your bow is broken, you cannot load the arrows from out of your quiver, or in a modern sense, the missiles out of your silo. This might imply that the IRGC (Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps) will be unable to launch scores of its missiles (arrows in modern warfare are missiles) at its enemies.

36 "And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come."

Jeremiah then warns that after the attack the affected populations are forced to scatter from the area. This could be the result of Iranian’s attempting to flee from an isolated nuclear disaster. Should the Bushehr nuclear reactor be struck, this becomes a very real possibility because the facility is loaded with Russian supplied fuel rods.

John Bolton, former US Ambassador to the UN, said in 2010, “Israel’s got a problem, because once the fuel rods are inserted into the reactor, an attack … would almost certainly release the radiation into the atmosphere”. Several other studies conducted of the safety of the Bushehr nuclear site have concluded that an accident at the facility could result in such a disaster. The radioactive mess would cause a mass exodus of peoples in the surrounding area (a worldwide dispersion of the Iranian people just as prophesied)!

37 "For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the Lord; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:"

From the scripture we can derive the Lord is angry with Iran which results in some disaster in Iran.

38 "And I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence the king and the princes, saith the Lord.
39 But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the Lord."

Jeremiah's prophecy also points out the Lord will set His throne in Elam. Iranians who accept Christ in advance of His second coming will be returned from global exile into the restored fortunes of their historic homeland in Elam.

Interestingly, for the last few years Iran has been experiencing one of the largest revivals on earth. From approximately 500 believers in 1979 [the year of the Iranian Revolution], to several million today, Iran is the fastest-growing evangelical population in the world! Christianity is burgeoning so rapidly that the rogue Islamic regime has instituted harsh policies to curb its growth.

The most likely fulfillment of this prophecy will occur when the nuclear reactor is destroyed, either by the Israelis (or U.S.?) or by an earthquake, releasing radiation that will force the evacuation of the whole area. Take note that the region where Bushehr is located in Elam is active earthquake country, and it sits on a tectonic plate.

The Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant is physically separated from greater Iran (Persia) by the Zagros Mountain range. The rapid elevation change due to the Zagros Mountain range would likely protect most of Iran from the meltdown allowing them to attack as one of the nations of Magog in Ezekiel 38-39 another day. Interestingly, Ezekiel was familiar with Elam, according to Ezekiel 32:24–25, but he did not include Elam in the lineup of invaders in Ezekiel 38, perhaps because it is destroyed by then.

Written more than 2,600 years ago, Jeremiah may have predicted the fate of Iran’s nuclear program and today’s spiritual showdown in Iran!

When? Only God knows, although we can pray for discernment, and watch always for any tell-tale signs God is willing to share.


manning5 wrote:
Good translation! The question is "When?"

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Jan 19, 2020 00:14:55   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Zemirah wrote:
One calamity at a time will be sufficient to contemplate, Peewee.

If slammed by a massive alien "big rock" first, the onslaught of dozens of Iranian missiles will hardly matter...

In reverse, if the missiles arrive first, the subsequent arrival of the "big rock" will be of little concern.

However, because the missiles are there in Zechariah, in God's prophecy, I believe they are a surer bet to occur... although there is "wormwood" in Revelation.

Revelation 8:10-11: "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood."

Is that what you're contemplating?
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Yes.

There will always be wars until King Jesus puts his foot back on earth and stops them. Of course, before that, we hope to meet Him in the air and escape. He has a track record of saving people in the nick of time like Noah and Lot and many others just before it's too late.

After that, the real tribulation begins. Nothing says He won't hit the remaining inhabitants with a double whammy. Stoning, missiles, and weird stinging creatures from below.

We are commanded to "fear not". So "I don't fear" but one thing... eternal separation of my soul from God. I've had problems with once saved, always saved, and that you can lose your salvation, different scriptures support both opinions. Maybe one is pre-trib and the other is post-trib? Even during the 1,000-year reign of Christ, some will side with Satan when he is set loose for a little while at the end of that time period. That blows me away. Everyone must make a decision and even the two witnesses must taste death.

God is a just God and everyone gets judged, no escaping that, even the raptured ones will get different rewards. Every time I read the Bible I learn something new, sometimes it's that I've been in error for years about something I used to be positive of, mainly because I don't know Hebrew or Greek and must rely on others that do and that I trust. That's why I love Zev Porat, Perry Stone, David Reagan, and many others.

Final exams are coming, and I know I won't ace the test, but I hope I'll pass, warts and all. If God looked on my sins, He would destroy me, but Jesus is my defender and covering. I have kissed and worshiped the Son and He knows what it's like to be human. I've shared the gospel, I've led some to Christ, then fall flat in the mud again. I keep getting back up, with His help of course.

I know I irritate you a bit, at times. But yes, I believe Gen. 6 and a lot of ancient mythology. Those Titans were real and are the only explanations of things we can't explain. Like pyramids all around the earth, above and under the ocean, coneheads in Peru, ancient Chinese writings say they went to the moon. Ancient Indian writings say they had flying machines. Soloman was right, nothing new under the Sun, to include cloning, Pan is a perfect example of cloning. Of course, they lobbed a few nukes at each other. The war in Afganistan and the Mideast has supposedly found a Vimana flying machine, killed a 10 to 15-foot giant, and the body of Nimrod preserved in honey. All three returned to the US and kept secret, except for a few leaks of each.

Most of Area 51 work is two-fold, what they let us know and what they don't. We know about the SR-71 and B1B Bomber, not about the reverse engineering of UFOs and ancient flying machines and its weapons. If the story of the Kandahar giant is real are super-soldiers very far behind? Maybe that's why Planned Parenthood needs so many fetal cell tissues when adult stem cells work better? Transhumanism (man and machine) is advancing rapidly. As a Christian, I feel I should at least read and know as much as I can about these subjects as possible. What I can't figure out is why Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg was given this technology free by the CIA and DARPA unless it was to spy on all of us. Which by law they couldn't, but they put back doors in everything, so they could. Here are a few links that may explain why I think like I do.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/breaking-new-dna-testing-2000-year-old-elongated-paracas-skulls-changes-020914

http://www.thexplan.net/article/378/THE-GIANT-OF-KANDAHAR/it

https://medium.com/@sathishramyen/a-five-thousand-year-old-ancient-indian-vimana-found-in-afghanistan-cave-eight-american-soldiers-453253fa002b

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancientatomicwar/esp_ancient_atomic_12.htm

https://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/desert-glass-formed-ancient-atomic-bombs-002205

https://newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas122.htm

Tom Horn runs Skywatch TV, predicted Pope Francis and the two Popes. Owns Defender Publishing. And I'm currently reading his Wormwood Prophecy book. If the meteor is Wormwood the rapture has to be very close. When I was five or six I heard a voice in my spirit that said: you will live to see the return of Christ. Sixty years later based on that, I've never feared death or purchased a grave plot.

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