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Jan 15, 2020 11:21:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??

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Jan 15, 2020 11:30:13   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??

It seems like a non problem to me, on all counts.

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Jan 15, 2020 11:33:05   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
I have not given this much thought but I think yes males that have become females are naturally physically stronger and have an advantage over normal females. People have rights so this is a hard subject.

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Jan 15, 2020 11:44:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??


They belong in the Special Olympics...

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Jan 15, 2020 11:44:33   #
EmilyD
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??


Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015, state athletes who t***sition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below a specified amount for at least a year. The issue to allow or not allow t*********rs to compete has been delayed because the whole subject is so politically charged and sensitive and scientists could not agree on what testosterone levels to use.

What amazes me is that the issue mostly (99%??) involves men who t***sition into women. What can be going on in the mind of a man who wants to compete with women? Is it because they can win that way while they have no chance of winning as a man? It seems to me that is what is at stake here. I have to also wonder if that may be the reason the man t*********red...pretty pathetic, if that's the case, IMO.

The next Winter Olympics are in 2022, but the Summer Olympics are this year in July, so I wonder if they will have reached a decision by then.

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Jan 15, 2020 11:48:50   #
EmilyD
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I have not given this much thought but I think yes males that have become females are naturally physically stronger and have an advantage over normal females. People have rights so this is a hard subject.

I wonder how many females who have become males have signed up for the Olympics...or even just sports in general?

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Jan 15, 2020 11:50:21   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??

The idea of someone who is genetically a guy competing with women is ludicrous, there is a reason there are weight classes, and women's and men's competitions. This is about which sex your body is, not which you identify with.

Now a hermaphrodite would cause some consternation amongst officials huh?

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Jan 15, 2020 11:52:58   #
woodguru
 
EmilyD wrote:
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015, state athletes who t***sition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below a specified amount for at least a year. The issue to allow or not allow t*********rs to compete has been delayed because the whole subject is so politically charged and sensitive and scientists could not agree on what testosterone levels to use.

What amazes me is that the issue mostly (99%??) involves men who t***sition into women. What can be going on in the mind of a man who wants to compete with women? Is it because they can win that way while they have no chance of winning as a man? It seems to me that is what is at stake here. I have to also wonder if that may be the reason the man t*********red...pretty pathetic, if that's the case, IMO.

The next Winter Olympics are in 2022, but the Summer Olympics are this year in July, so I wonder if they will have reached a decision by then.
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015,... (show quote)

Testosterone levels to me doesn't seem to be the defining limiter when the person's body has already developed a different level of muscle mass.

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Jan 15, 2020 11:57:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
It seems like a non problem to me, on all counts.


Most of those I know think it's c***ting for males to "change" to female in order to compete with true females. Male athletes have always had superior advantage over females in the same sports. We might as well do away with women's sports if males can put on a dress and compete with them.

Of course, I find it no surprise that you would be supportive of that.

You seem to have altered your position on protesting and free speech. You have said that pro-lifers in Greece shouldn't be allowed to display their pro-life material in protest of a******n. You said it was propaganda. But now, you are saying that true female athlete's can protest guys pretending to be females in order to compete with girls. LOL! Seems contradictory to me.

Next thing you know the Olympics will be a huge opposition protest of f**e guys versus true girls, protesting each others presence at the games. Yep, that's going to be something to turn on!

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Jan 15, 2020 11:58:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
They belong in the Special Olympics...



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Jan 15, 2020 11:58:06   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
They belong in the Special Olympics...

You actually have something there, not the special olympics, but a class for them alone. It would be frustrating as a woman to be outperformed by someone who has the physical strength of a guy, who is turning in a mediocre performance by men's standards.

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Jan 15, 2020 11:59:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
With the new thing in the states being guys changing to girls and then competing with girls in their sports, I am wondering it that is something the might eventually be allowed in the Olympic games?

And since some are all good with athletes protesting during the Olympics, how would they handle protestors who protest guys becoming girls and competing in women's sports??


Not everyone is ok with it apparently the Olympic big wig passed a ruling forbidding protest and the Olympic players that use it for protest are protesting the ruling

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Jan 15, 2020 12:01:37   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
EmilyD wrote:
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015, state athletes who t***sition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below a specified amount for at least a year. The issue to allow or not allow t*********rs to compete has been delayed because the whole subject is so politically charged and sensitive and scientists could not agree on what testosterone levels to use.

What amazes me is that the issue mostly (99%??) involves men who t***sition into women. What can be going on in the mind of a man who wants to compete with women? Is it because they can win that way while they have no chance of winning as a man? It seems to me that is what is at stake here. I have to also wonder if that may be the reason the man t*********red...pretty pathetic, if that's the case, IMO.

The next Winter Olympics are in 2022, but the Summer Olympics are this year in July, so I wonder if they will have reached a decision by then.
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015,... (show quote)


exactly I don't care what their hormon level is men are built differently and are stronger the competition is totally unfair

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Jan 15, 2020 12:01:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015, state athletes who t***sition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below a specified amount for at least a year. The issue to allow or not allow t*********rs to compete has been delayed because the whole subject is so politically charged and sensitive and scientists could not agree on what testosterone levels to use.

What amazes me is that the issue mostly (99%??) involves men who t***sition into women. What can be going on in the mind of a man who wants to compete with women? Is it because they can win that way while they have no chance of winning as a man? It seems to me that is what is at stake here. I have to also wonder if that may be the reason the man t*********red...pretty pathetic, if that's the case, IMO.

The next Winter Olympics are in 2022, but the Summer Olympics are this year in July, so I wonder if they will have reached a decision by then.
Currently IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015,... (show quote)


I think, in the end, there will have to be a third category; male athletes, female athletes, t*********r athletes. Imagine coming back in a hundred years to witness competition in the "t*********r" category!

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Jan 15, 2020 12:02:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
I wonder how many females who have become males have signed up for the Olympics...or even just sports in general?


None! But I haven't actually looked.

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