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Jan 15, 2020 16:28:05   #
Seth
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The Iran deal was set to expire soon anyway.

I believe affordable healthcare is a right that all Americans should have access to. If the federal government would get out of the healthcare business and force the industry to be t***sparent with their pricing we would all benefit from lower prices and more efficient distribution of resources where they are needed most and to provide services that would benefit all Americans. If you don't want health insurance, you should not be forced to buy it. But if you don't and you need healthcare, don't come crying that the government doesn't take care of you.
The Iran deal was set to expire soon anyway. br ... (show quote)


The key is for government to stay out of the business and to encourage competition, as well as to permit HMOs to function across state lines.

In the meantime, good controls on abuse of Medicaid, restricting it to those who truly can't afford healthcare and keeping hospitals "honest" where needed vs unneeded diagnostics and treatment vs billing are concerned, we could easily reach a point where everyone can obtain care without going broke in the process.

However, when gov't becomes too involved, all bets are off.

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Jan 15, 2020 16:41:05   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
A pittance, while corporations and the wealthy got windfall tax cuts. Assuming some mega corporations pay any taxes at all.


Significantly less tragedy would have occurred had we kept that money as r********ns for those whom they held hostage at our embassy for 444 days, which was what should have been done.

Once again, the corporate tax cuts were not "for the rich." The people behind the businesses still had to pay their taxes. The cuts simply left more capital in the hands of the corporations, who used it to expand and that created millions of jobs.

The pitiful thing about your ilk is that in your zeal to punish "the rich," and your hatred for the very capitalism that made America the richest country in history, you are perfectly willing to see entire families starve and lose their homes due to lack of jobs, as "collateral damage" from your sick, twisted political dogmas, as long as you perceive your side as "winning."

If you want to win all the time, you need to become a Trump supporter.

If you want to stay a Democrat and hang out with t*****rs, terrorism supporters and p*******es, best of luck.

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Jan 15, 2020 18:32:25   #
kemmer
 
Seth wrote:
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Once again, the corporate tax cuts were not "for the rich." The people behind the businesses still had to pay their taxes. The cuts simply left more capital in the hands of the corporations, who used it to expand and that created millions of jobs.

Don't be naive; the corporations used it to buy back their stock.

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Jan 15, 2020 19:05:27   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
Don't be naive; the corporations used it to buy back their stock.


Oh, and all those new jobs simply created themselves as the companies and small businesses grew magically, for no apparent reason. Give me a break...



Do yourself a favor -- throw away your tired bumper stickers, already, and start embracing reality.

You know, cause and effect, that kind of thing. It will make you look a lot more informed and a lot less foolish. 😎

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Jan 15, 2020 19:40:32   #
kemmer
 
Seth wrote:
Oh, and all those new jobs simply created themselves as the companies and small businesses grew magically, for no apparent reason. Give me a break...



Do yourself a favor -- throw away your tired bumper stickers, already, and start embracing reality.

You know, cause and effect, that kind of thing. It will make you look a lot more informed and a lot less foolish. 😎
Oh, and all those new jobs simply created themselv... (show quote)

Pot/kettle

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Jan 15, 2020 19:46:51   #
debeda
 
dtucker300 wrote:
And yet everything he does turns out okay, and that just rankles you lefties to no end because the "smartest man in the world" nearly destroyed this country in a mere eight years. We don't need the smartest people in Government. We need people who put America first and do what is best for us.



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Jan 15, 2020 19:47:34   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Show me anything Obama did that benefited as many Americans during his entire eight years in office that came anywhere near what Trump has done in three.

You can't, because Obama's only contributions to the economy were shipping millions of American jobs overseas while maintaining an average GDP below 2.0...

Trump's policies have created record employment and brought us the best economy we've enjoyed in decades.

Show me anything Obama did during his eight years in office that made Americans safer.

You can't, because all he did was create the vacuums needed for terrorist orgs like ISIS to grow and branch out, while pouring cash into the Iranians' terrorism financing war chest.

Trump has pulled us out of the tragedy of JCPOA, smashed ISIS in Syria, k**led the Iranian terrorism czar, strengthened our military might and demonstrated to our enemies that we will no longer tolerate our people and assets overseas being trifled with.

The above are all facts, there, Kemmer -- if you want to go on fondling your unmentionables and spouting the bumper sticker lies of the left wing propagandists who do all your thinking for you, have at it.

Just know that every time you spew the sort of thing you did in your above post, you make yourself and your "opinions" appear more and more irrelevant, like a bizarre troll hired not to be taken at all seriously, only to provide comic relief.
Show me b anything /b Obama did that benefited a... (show quote)


Well said👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Jan 15, 2020 20:19:20   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
Pot/kettle


Wrong.

You do what any totally brainwashed, propagandized, party line zombie does -- you ignore obvious cause and effect, facts and reality in general and simply recite by rote the phrases you learned from those on the left who tell you what to think.

Reminds me of something someone I knew years ago who was a flight engineer for an airline who spoke fluent Russian once told me, back in the late 1970s when the USSR still existed.

He was in London, and saw a Russian tour group being led around by a Russian, and he overheard the tour guide saying, "The reason there are no long lines in front of any of these stores is because in the west they produce an inferior product."

That's the same level of propaganda your ilk repeats over and over, no facts, proof or evidence need apply. Unlike in the former Soviet Union, here in America, because of the First Amendment, real information, the t***h, complete with statistical data, is readily available.

Only a propaganda zombie such as you, who no longer has the ability to think for himself, would go through life with the party line tunnel vision you exhibit. You would probably walk around in a tropical downpour without an umbrella or raincoat if your left wing thought masters told you it was a sunny day.

Pitiful, really pitiful...

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Jan 15, 2020 20:22:23   #
Seth
 
debeda wrote:
Well said👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏



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Jan 15, 2020 21:07:21   #
kemmer
 
Seth wrote:

You do what any totally brainwashed, propagandized, party line zombie does -- you ignore obvious cause and effect, facts and reality in general....

Thank you, Mr Trump Dev**ed Apologist.

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Jan 15, 2020 21:24:26   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
Thank you, Mr Trump Dev**ed Apologist.


Talk to the hand ✋

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Jan 15, 2020 21:53:15   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
Thank you, Mr Trump Dev**ed Apologist.


Oh, and just so you understand... "Apologist" is not an applicable term, since I see nothing to apologize for where President Trump is concerned -- as an American, I am proud that he is my president, and I support everything he has done since the day he took office.

If anyone has anything to apologize for, it's you, the Anti-America troll, for your defense of the cabal of t*****rs that front today's Democratic Party, for your defense of corrupt politicians like Obama, Hillary and that sorry lot and for your cluelessness regarding what America is all about.

-- "Get a life!"

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Jan 15, 2020 22:15:35   #
kemmer
 
Seth wrote:
...you, the Anti-America troll...

The most bizarre thing about you Trump thralls is your thing about everyone who thinks Trump is a dangerous fool h**es America.
News flash: Trump and America are NOT synonymous.

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Jan 15, 2020 22:27:12   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
The most bizarre thing about you Trump thralls is your thing about everyone who thinks Trump is a dangerous fool h**es America.
News flash: Trump and America are NOT synonymous.


However, your ilk and left wing, anti-America hatred are synonymous.

Trump is great for America, therefore you h**e him.

Obama was bad for America, therefore you worshiped him in every way, shape and form, probably had an altar dedicated to him in your basement.

😮 -- "Face the facts!"

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Jan 15, 2020 22:32:15   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
However, your ilk and left wing, anti-America hatred are synonymous.

Trump is great for America, therefore you h**e him.

Obama was bad for America, therefore you worshiped him in every way, shape and form, probably had an altar dedicated to him in your basement.

😮 -- "Face the facts!"



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