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Mar 13, 2020 11:12:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JediKnight wrote:
In my opinion, the mass wealth of this country is controlled largely by republicans...who's main desire is to keep it that way at all costs...which is why we have Trump and complicit republicans currently ruining the country.


"In my opinion, the mass wealth of this country is controlled largely by republicans...who's main desire is to keep it that way at all costs...which is why we have Trump and complicit republicans currently ruining the country." - Jrdi

Jedi!
Get a handle on what goes on under BOTH parties, and who controls them.

This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly t***smit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red f**gs for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d

A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Heidi Cruz - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Condoleezza Rice CFR/84 (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
H. Kissinger - CFR,TC,BB ( R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke - BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
Jerome H. Powell (Fed Chairman) CFR

THE MEDIA:

George Will - CFR,TC (R)
Katherine A. "Katie" Couric CFR
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Dick Morris (D&R)
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR
Larry Kudlow - CFR’88

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Mar 13, 2020 12:37:07   #
JediKnight
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"In my opinion, the mass wealth of this country is controlled largely by republicans...who's main desire is to keep it that way at all costs...which is why we have Trump and complicit republicans currently ruining the country." - Jrdi

Jedi!
Get a handle on what goes on under BOTH parties, and who controls them.

This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly t***smit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red f**gs for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d

A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Heidi Cruz - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Condoleezza Rice CFR/84 (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
H. Kissinger - CFR,TC,BB ( R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke - BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
Jerome H. Powell (Fed Chairman) CFR

THE MEDIA:

George Will - CFR,TC (R)
Katherine A. "Katie" Couric CFR
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Dick Morris (D&R)
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR
Larry Kudlow - CFR’88
"In my opinion, the mass wealth of this count... (show quote)


eagle: I for one, don't really care about any of that stuff! What matters to me is what is going on presently. I have never been one to try and whitewash my mistakes by calling out the mistakes of others. However, that does seem to be one of the major flaws in your republican party. Trump is supposed to be his "own man."

Why do you continuously try to discount Trump's mistakes by casting shade on what someone else may or may not have done? You are beginning to remind me of that children's game - "No I didn't - yes you did -no I didn't -oh yes you did!" sad

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Mar 13, 2020 22:02:49   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
There is nothing wrong with your fingers! Try google or Wikipedia...but John Wolfe comes to mind as one, I believe Hillary was also in the mix for a minute, as well as others.

You do know that no matter which party you are "registered in" you can still v**e for the candidate of your choice right?


Come on stay on topic. You are drifting from the original argument " There were several democratic choices, as well as independents, green party, etc., on the 2012 ticket. "

This started because you said Republicans had only one choice, whereas Democrats had several. Well DUH. The incumbent President rarely faces challenges from his own party. I want to know who these Democratic choices were for President.

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Mar 14, 2020 12:14:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
son of witless wrote:
Come on stay on topic. You are drifting from the original argument " There were several democratic choices, as well as independents, green party, etc., on the 2012 ticket. "

This started because you said Republicans had only one choice, whereas Democrats had several. Well DUH. The incumbent President rarely faces challenges from his own party. I want to know who these Democratic choices were for President.


"Well DUH. The incumbent President rarely faces challenges from his own party."

Especially when the incumbent is doing such a fine job.

Republicans have one great choice, and the Dems have several bad choices.
The choices are being weeded down.

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Mar 14, 2020 15:12:04   #
son of witless
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Well DUH. The incumbent President rarely faces challenges from his own party."

Especially when the incumbent is doing such a fine job.

Republicans have one great choice, and the Dems have several bad choices.
The choices are being weeded down.


I read what everyone says and when the details make no sense, I ask for clarification. I do not always get it.

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Mar 14, 2020 17:36:10   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
son of witless wrote:
I read what everyone says and when the details make no sense, I ask for clarification. I do not always get it.


As the Indians used to say in the Old West: "Democrats speak with forked tongue"

Snakes will be snakes.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:22:38   #
JediKnight
 
son of witless wrote:
Come on stay on topic. You are drifting from the original argument " There were several democratic choices, as well as independents, green party, etc., on the 2012 ticket. "

This started because you said Republicans had only one choice, whereas Democrats had several. Well DUH. The incumbent President rarely faces challenges from his own party. I want to know who these Democratic choices were for President.






Search Results

2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries


Candidate Barack Obama John Wolfe Jr.
Home state Illinois Tennessee
Delegate count 3,166 0 (23)
Contests won 56 0
Popular v**e 6,158,064 117,033
2 more rows



2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_prima...




2012 Democratic Party p**********l candidates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_candi...

During the 2012 United States p**********l e******n, 51 individuals sought the nomination of the Democratic Party. Incumbent President Barack Obama won the nomination unanimously at the 2012 Democratic National Convention and was re-elected as President in ... As expected for the incumbent president, Obama won every primary e******n, ...
‎Candidates · ‎Incumbent · ‎Challengers

Just to show you that it can be done....I went to google and typed in: who ran against Obama in 2012 on the democratic ticket?

See how easy it is? Even you can do your own research. You should know by now to "never doubt a Jedi....we always know exactly what we're talking about.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:42:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JediKnight wrote:
Search Results

2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries


Candidate Barack Obama John Wolfe Jr.
Home state Illinois Tennessee
Delegate count 3,166 0 (23)
Contests won 56 0
Popular v**e 6,158,064 117,033
2 more rows



2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_prima...




2012 Democratic Party p**********l candidates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_candi...

During the 2012 United States p**********l e******n, 51 individuals sought the nomination of the Democratic Party. Incumbent President Barack Obama won the nomination unanimously at the 2012 Democratic National Convention and was re-elected as President in ... As expected for the incumbent president, Obama won every primary e******n, ...
‎Candidates · ‎Incumbent · ‎Challengers

Just to show you that it can be done....I went to google and typed in: who ran against Obama in 2012 on the democratic ticket?

See how easy it is? Even you can do your own research. You should know by now to "never doubt a Jedi....we always know exactly what we're talking about.
Search Results br br 2012 Democratic Party p*****... (show quote)


Sooo, Judas; you still do not know what you are talking about.
A refresher for you;

Mueller info/ The crew.
Mueller is one of the members of the Clinton and Obama syndicate who must be investigated. Among the members of the syndicate are:
Comey, Mueller, Lynch, Hillary Clinton, Obama, Rosenstein, Bill Clinton, Eric Holder, and many others.
Crimes involved were:
*The sale of 20% US Uranium to Russia
*The Russian Dossier
*Shredding of 30,000 emails by Hillary
* Bleach bitted 33,000 emails ordered by Hillary, while he emails were under subpoena by Congress.
* Pounding with hammer 2 hard drives where illegal files were stored by Hillary.
* Using Hillary private server to t***sfer official and classified information.
* Meeting of Bill and Loreta Lynch at the Airport Tarmac.
* Ordered Comey by Loreta Lynch to call the crimes of Hillary "a Matter"
* Comey exonerated Hillary Clinton 2 months before his investigations against Hillary were completed.
* Comey had no right to acquit Hillary Clinton.
* Clinton received $145 million for the sale of the 20% US Uranium to Russia.
* Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 speaking fee by Russia for 15 minutes.
*Hillary Clinton was given by Dona Brazille, the CNN debate questions ahead of time. That was c***ting and nullified the debates.
*Hillary Clinton r****d the primary e******ns against Bernie Sander.
*Hillary received billions of foreign and local donors for her Foundation, with only 3% provided to charity. The rests of the money went to their bank accounts, hundreds of millions of salary for her daughter Chelsea, and luxury trips.
* Hillary is the most corrupt and lying breathing human on earth.
* Fast and Furious,
*B******i lies and deaths of 4 Americans
* Clinton was paid hundreds of millions of $$ by the Arab countries, with a quid-pr0-quo promise to allowing 550% of Muslims enter into the US.
* When Clinton left the State Department in 2012, it was reported that $6 billion State Dept. funds were missing. No accountability and documents to trace.
* Hillary used her power as State Sec. for pay to play to her foundation.
* About 5 million i*****l a***ns v**ed for Hillary especially in California. So many other blue states were also found i******s v****g for democrats.
* The members on the Mueller investigations were all democrat donors to Hillary Clinton and the Democrat party.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:59:40   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
Search Results

2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries


Candidate Barack Obama John Wolfe Jr.
Home state Illinois Tennessee
Delegate count 3,166 0 (23)
Contests won 56 0
Popular v**e 6,158,064 117,033
2 more rows



2012 Democratic Party p**********l primaries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_prima...




2012 Democratic Party p**********l candidates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2012_Democratic_Party_p**********l_candi...

During the 2012 United States p**********l e******n, 51 individuals sought the nomination of the Democratic Party. Incumbent President Barack Obama won the nomination unanimously at the 2012 Democratic National Convention and was re-elected as President in ... As expected for the incumbent president, Obama won every primary e******n, ...
‎Candidates · ‎Incumbent · ‎Challengers

Just to show you that it can be done....I went to google and typed in: who ran against Obama in 2012 on the democratic ticket?

See how easy it is? Even you can do your own research. You should know by now to "never doubt a Jedi....we always know exactly what we're talking about.
Search Results br br 2012 Democratic Party p*****... (show quote)


Okay you proved a meaningless point. Good for you. These challengers had no support and no chance. It still goes back to your original statement that Trump had no challengers. I have no idea if he did or not, but most incumbents have no meaningful opposition. Carter faced a serious challenge from Ted Kennedy. Other than that it does not happen much and my point is valid that your first statement had no meaning.

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Mar 16, 2020 11:08:37   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JediKnight wrote:
eagle: I for one, don't really care about any of that stuff! What matters to me is what is going on presently. I have never been one to try and whitewash my mistakes by calling out the mistakes of others. However, that does seem to be one of the major flaws in your republican party. Trump is supposed to be his "own man."

Why do you continuously try to discount Trump's mistakes by casting shade on what someone else may or may not have done? You are beginning to remind me of that children's game - "No I didn't - yes you did -no I didn't -oh yes you did!" sad
eagle: I for one, don't really care about any of t... (show quote)


Judas;
I want to point out that we have a new sheriff in town.
An honest sheriff.
The swamp is being drained.

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