eagleye13 Loc: Fl

I remember how boring History classes were in Junior High and High school.
So superfluous. Dates to memorize etc for tests.
Little real meat. On purpose?

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

I loved history but in high school we had a dud for a teacher !

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

I just remember how lacking the History Books were, after learning more years later.
AND
The liberal takes on everything. The Why?

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Indoctrination of education to dumb us all down so they could rewrite history to their liking !

Hug

Study literature to learn history.

son of witless

The more you read about him, the more fascinating he gets. He lived in times of Flash in the Pan bigger than life heroes, with bigger than life egos, who put those egos above their country. All of the other military figures of his day were more dashing, better dressed, and more self promoting than he was. As he became more famous, he had more people wanting to meet this great general who was supposed to save the day. Most people who got to see him were disappointed in his appearance. You might call him the LT. Columbo of generals.

His role as LT General was quite similar to Dwight D. Eisenhower's role as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe. Eisenhower had to somehow mesh hot heads like Patton and Montgomery into a winning force. At least those two were not corrupt incompetents, such as many of Grants underlings. Eisenhower had to keep Churchill and Roosevelt happy. There Grant had a much easier time with Lincoln. Lincoln as much as possible stayed out of Grant's hair.

Others generals could have mapped out a military strategy like Grant did, but I doubt any of them could have navigated the political traps. Grant had to deal with Clowns like General Benjamin Butler, who was so politically powerful that even Lincoln could not fire him. Butler did some good service early in the war, but as time went on he became more and more a major liability to the Union and Grant. He failed Grant in his attack on Petersburg, which was meant to distract Lee, and sever the railroads supplying Richmond. Even then Grant couldn't get rid of him.

Finally after his total incompetence in the failure to take Fort Fisher in North Carolina, Grant was able to recall him. Like Lincoln, Grant was a shrewd judge of men. As time went on he was able to get the right men in command of his armies, and when they weren't exactly the right men, he figured out how to get the most out of them. Meade is interesting. Grant was pressured to fire him, and he wasn't always the best man, but he was good enough for Grant's purposes and he wasn't a back stabbing weasel. He accepted what ever Grant told him to do so Grant kept him.

The two generals who complimented Grant were Sherman and Sheridan. Sherman was almost a brother to Grant. Grant rarely gave Sherman explicit orders. More general feelings and Sherman had full authority to make changes on his own as conditions changed and opportunities presented themselves. Sheridan did not have as much leeway in disobeying Grant as Sherman did, but as long as he was aggressive Grant would normally forgive and forget later on.

son of witless

I never found history boring. History books can be boring because they are poorly written. There are so many excellent books in public libraries, such as the one I mentioned ' Grant Takes Command '. I really wish Hollywood, or somebody would make a min-series on the life of Ulysses S. Grant. There is so much meat there. You would have to find the right actors to play Grant at the different stages of his life. I also guess there would be stiff competition to play all of the historic characters in his life story. Generals Winfield Scott and Zachary Taylor from the Mexican-American War, and everyone from Lincoln to john Wilkes Boothe during the Civil war.

I of course want to write the screenplay and be well paid for it.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Study literature to learn history." - Hug
Glad you mentioned that

Even literature was selected by "liberals" in my day.
A big case in point:
I was in engineering at Cal Poly in 1972. I had one English Literature class.
One short John Dos Passos entry was in the class anthology book. It was a liberal piece about union leadership being illegitimately attacked. He must have been a liberal at the time.
He later went conservative and wrote many awesome books.
I did my term research paper on him. Complete with Bibliography and foot notes.
My liberal teacher did not like my take on it.
My liberal teacher gave me a C-
She said I "plagiarized".
I called her out on it; and she changed the grade from C- to C+.

After John Dos Passos changed from adored liberal/Left wing to conservative/Right wing, he was black balled. I don't doubt that continues in our schools.

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4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Sounds like your teacher was all Heart

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

As I remember; To get a teaching credential in the liberal arts, you must have a B average in school.

She may have been afraid I wanted to be a teacher. LOL

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Hug

I believe there are a lot of teachers who are quarrelsome and jealous by nature. I once knew a teacher who was awarded THE E.A. RICHTER AWARD by the Missouri Bar Advisory Committee on Citizenship Education and that upset the other teachers so the point that they wanted to get the guy fired. The administration thought the guy was teaching too much about the Constitution.

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Teachers can certainly be jealous b***hes...

And office politics can ruin many good schools...

We lost our two best teachers in high school because the school board was unwilling to pay the salary they rightfully earned...

Replaced them with people who worked for peanuts and couldn't teach their way out of a paper bag...

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eagleye13 Loc: Fl

It was the text books that were useless propaganda. Liberal takes.
There were good teachers to teach history though.
I wonder what it is like today?