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Jan 10, 2020 22:03:33   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you for your input, but please read the outlandish comments condemning diversity. I report, I do not participate.


Outlandish by Democrats and Alt-Right weenies.

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Jan 10, 2020 22:10:21   #
Rose42
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Outlandish by Democrats and Alt-Right weenies.


Exactly right.

You’re not ‘reporting’ rumitoid. You opine.

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Jan 10, 2020 22:16:26   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Exactly right.

You’re not ‘reporting’ rumitoid. You opine.


Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.

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Jan 10, 2020 22:23:39   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.


You just showed your backside in all it's glory, Rumi!

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Jan 10, 2020 22:25:34   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.


Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda! You don't stand for anything!

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Jan 10, 2020 22:47:08   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
You just showed your backside in all it's glory, Rumi!


Do I have a good butt?

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Jan 10, 2020 23:13:10   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do I have a good butt?


You have a totally partisan, almost robotic view of your fellow Americans.
The only reason I would be interested in your butt would be a target for my boot.

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Jan 10, 2020 23:13:43   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
rumitoid wrote:
Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.


And that makes you what?
A few come to mind.
Max bogus.

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Jan 10, 2020 23:54:48   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
rumitoid wrote:
Diversity is great and exciting, yet it is also destructive and intolerant. I am not asking for lock-step in this thread but uber reason to overcome the natural biases and restrictions. Firm Guidelines need to be established. We need to get conscious about and proactive about the world's various cultures, separate the wheat from the chaff. Stop kowtowing to pleas of ethnic background.


You gotta wise up. Just laugh when people resort to monkey fighting, restrict your dialogue to those who dialogue.

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Jan 11, 2020 01:24:46   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
rumitoid wrote:
Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.


The proof is in their inability to perceive t***h through all the propaganda they consume. Cultish behavior.

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Jan 11, 2020 01:33:42   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do I have a good butt?




You do realize that you invite most of this upon yourself with your short snarky comments. That's no excuse for the way some people respond. You're tough, you'll survive!

Reminds me of a joke.

Q: Why couldn't the Greek boy run away from home?
A: He couldn't leave his brother's behind.

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Jan 11, 2020 01:35:13   #
JW
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
The proof is in their inability to perceive t***h through all the propaganda they consume. Cultish behavior.


Please provide an instance of the propaganda you reference.

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Jan 11, 2020 01:51:47   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JW wrote:
I can see the potential for a world community but not an integrated one.

Back in the 60s, the Europeans organized something loosely termed 'play without boundaries'. Competitive sports events were held where all of the European countries could field their own teams. It proved to be fun and it brought the European nations closer together. None of the games were hard nosed competitions but were fun and satisfied the competitive urges of the players and the audiences. The eventual result was the EU.

Time has elapsed and it has become clear that the EU is failing. The difference is in the respect for the sovereignty of the nations. There is none any longer. Every European is subject to the dictates of Brussels.

Still, the 'play without boundaries concept was a complete success. The teams battled for the honor of their own languages, ideologies and ethnicities. There were no ill feelings generated by who won and who lost because the competitions were not serious, they were fun.

The long and the short of it is that cultures are the cornerstones of every human's existence. We can easily cooperate with one another until the competition becomes serious. We can all follow the same rules, external culture, just as long as we are allowed the maintain the integrity of our own culture. Assault that and cooperation dissolves.

We can become a global community but only by respecting borders and boundaries. No matter how cooperative we can eventually become in the external culture, that cooperation will end the instant one person feels his or her culture is being disrespected. That will invariably occur the instant someone feels subjected to someone else's cultural standards.
I can see the potential for a world community but ... (show quote)


Isn't this what makes America exceptional? Japan has to stay Japanese to keep their culture. If I move to Japan I can never become Japanese. We, on the other hand, are the only country that welcomes diverse cultures to come here. Anyone can become American. What does an American look like? But we also expect assimilation into our culture. Does it do any good for each group to stay within their own little community and isolate themselves from other groups? Instead of being one country we become a hodgepodge of cultures like the rest of the world, only on a smaller scale.

Is Nationalism Bad? I don't think so as long as, as you say, the global community respects borders. I am not sure that Americans always respect their own borders. Are we encouraging others to not respect our borders?

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Jan 11, 2020 02:54:09   #
JW
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Isn't this what makes America exceptional? Japan has to stay Japanese to keep their culture. If I move to Japan I can never become Japanese. We, on the other hand, are the only country that welcomes diverse cultures to come here. Anyone can become American. What does an American look like? But we also expect assimilation into our culture. Does it do any good for each group to stay within their own little community and isolate themselves from other groups? Instead of being one country we become a hodgepodge of cultures like the rest of the world, only on a smaller scale.

Is Nationalism Bad? I don't think so as long as, as you say, the global community respects borders. I am not sure that Americans always respect their own borders. Are we encouraging others to not respect our borders?
Isn't this what makes America exceptional? Japan ... (show quote)


What makes the USA exceptional is that it is the only nation whose allegiance is to an idea and an icon, the Constitution and the f**g.

Every other nation on the planet is sworn to an ethnicity or in some cases, multiple ethnicities within a national boundary. Where multiple ethnicities reside within a national border, the union is and remains tentative. Northern Ireland and Yugoslavia are good examples with Northern Ireland demonstrating the tentative nature of the union and Yugoslavia demonstrating what happens to such a nation when the bootheel of despotism is finally lifted.

In the United States, those who came here were looking for the freedom to guide their own lives. National origins didn't matter until the influx became oppressive to those already here.

If we examine any nation comprising more than a single ethnicity/culture, we find the same thing/s in its/their government; laws are enacted for the purpose of forcing people to accept an alien or outside culture. Those laws are oppressive by their nature. They force people to modify their own cultural standards in order to force tolerance of the other cultures. That requires oppression because people do not willingly accept foreign cultural behaviors in their midst.

Canada was at one time very similar to the United States. It placed a high value on individual liberty. Canada has been becoming less and less free and more and more encumbered by oppressive behavioral mandates from the government. We in the USA have been experiencing the same pressures but have not yet fully surrendered our personal independence to the degree Canadians have but we are clearly heading in that direction. An unregulated influx of nonAmericans, with no desire to assimilate, makes those same oppressive behavioral mandates more common in our country also. Our government is becoming increasingly repressive.

The bottom lines are these; 1) cultures do not mix. They can absorb alien aspects but they must do it at their own pace. (From Irish need not apply to everyone can be Irish for a day.) That absorption is called the melting pot. Multi-culturalism declares that assimilation is not a goal of the overarching society. It runs contrary to the melting pot. 2) Governments in multi-cultural societies must necessarily be repressive. 3) Like Yugoslavia, when given the chance, multi-cultural nations will schism into separate nations.

My prediction, if we continue down the path we are on; in 100 years there will not be a United States. There will be several separate nations, where the USA once was, who will reenact the dramas that have occupied Europe for the last 3000 years.

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Jan 11, 2020 06:43:48   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Both, I would think but you do not listen to another view, just dismiss it with your Trump fervor as h**e. Sophomoric. Defending the president as you repeatedly do with this bogus meme of h**e, makes you a Trumpette.


I listen to other views and I don’t defend Trump. Yet you stupidly insist I do. Archie nailed it - you are robotic in your partisanship.

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