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Jan 3, 2020 15:54:01   #
rumitoid
 
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?

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Jan 3, 2020 16:01:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?


It was right ethically,morally,and strategically!!!

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Jan 3, 2020 16:02:05   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?


You think it is wrong because you hate Trump. Forget the phony front about being objective and admit it.

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Jan 3, 2020 16:29:27   #
maureenthannon
 
Think about the thousands of people that died because of the terrorist butcher! How many more wuld ave to be klilled before you'd be okay with stopping him?

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Jan 3, 2020 16:35:07   #
Liberty Tree
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Think about the thousands of people that died because of the terrorist butcher! How many more wuld ave to be klilled before you'd be okay with stopping him?


Democrats are ok with stopping him. They are just not ok with Trump doing it. Obama was their big hero when Bin Laden died.

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Jan 3, 2020 16:42:02   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?


Before I answer I would like to hear who your loyalty and allegiance belongs to.

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Jan 3, 2020 18:02:48   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?




Hell yea it was the right thing to do. .....i would have pulled the trigger myself and grinned......but you already knew my answer.

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Jan 3, 2020 18:52:12   #
dongreen76
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?


No,this is not a situation that could potentially escalate into a world war as WW 1 , because it was committed against the Greatest Blusterering Bravadoseier of all time.If they were going to declare War ,they would have done it by now.This does not mean that allied secular forces should not stay on their guard.They probably will continue with business as usual,random terrorist terrorists acts here and there.
Even though it was reported that Russia, Iran,N Korea,and China were holding coordinated joint military excercises-theres has been no reaction from these parties, evidently this is not a crucial enough incident to warrant even their remotes of responses from Iranian allies.
So far as it being ethically, morally,and strategically the right thing to do,my question is this-if this man was so antagonististic and such a threat,toward Americans and Amaricans alike why is it for the most part,he was relatively unknown-first I've heard of him.

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Jan 3, 2020 18:59:50   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
It was right ethically,morally,and strategically!!!


Thank you, pr.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:01:41   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You think it is wrong because you hate Trump. Forget the phony front about being objective and admit it.


I said and I will say again, I am on the fence about this action. Yes, I lean that it was wrong but need input like yours to decide.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:06:44   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am somewhat on the fence about the assassination of Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. The arguments pro and con are somewhat a wash, though I lean that it was wrong and a direct threat to national security...and worse. I am tempted to give the reasons for my lean towards it being wrong, and the split on the topic seems to go along party lines, yet I want to hear what you think. Was it or wasn't the right thing to do ethically, morally, and strategically?


Ilhan Omar Attacks Trump For Killing Top Iranian Terrorist, Promotes Conspiracy Theory
By Ryan Saavedra
DailyWire.com
MANCHESTER, UNITED STATES - 2019/12/13: Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar campaigns with Vermont Senator and presidential candidate Bernie Sanders at Southern New Hampshire University in Manchester.Ehrler/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images
Far-left Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) attacked President Donald Trump late on Thursday night for his order to kill top terrorist leaders in Iraq and also promoted a conspiracy theory.

Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the Quds Force, and Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis were the two terrorist leaders who were killed. Al-Muhandis was in charge of the Iranian-linked Popular Mobilization Forces.

The Department of Defense released a statement stating that Trump ordered the strike because “General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.”

“General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more,” the Pentagon continued. “He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months – including the attack on December 27th – culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week.”

Despite the statement from the Pentagon and the clear reasoning behind the attack, Omar responded by suggesting that Trump secretly carried out the strike to provide a “distraction” from the upcoming Senate impeachment trial.

Omar tweeted: “So what if Trump wants war, knows this leads to war and needs the distraction? Real question is, will those with congressional authority step in and stop him? I know I will.”


Ilhan Omar

@IlhanMN
So what if Trump wants war, knows this leads to war and needs the distraction?

Real question is, will those with congressional authority step in and stop him? I know I will. https://twitter.com/chrismurphyct/status/1212913952436445185

Chris Murphy

@ChrisMurphyCT
Soleimani was an enemy of the United States. That’s not a question.

The question is this - as reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional war?

Omar has a documented history of being sympathetic to Islamic terrorists. Here are just a few examples:

Advocated for leniency and “compassion” in the sentencing of men who were convicted of trying to join ISIS
Called for a senior Muslim Brotherhood member to be released from jail in Egypt
Voted against a bill that allowed insurance companies to deny life insurance payouts to terrorist’s families.
Omar, Tlaib Planned To Meet With Terror-Promoting Groups, Including One That Promoted Neo-Nazi Screed, On ‘Palestine’ Trip
Trump responded to news of the strike by posting a single tweet on Twitter of an American flag.


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson reported: “State Department says Iran responsible for killing 608 U.S. troops during Iraq War. Qasem Soleimani led all Iranian and Iranian-backed forces in those operations. 17% of U.S. troops killed in Iraq from 2003 to 2011 orchestrated by Iran, State Dept. says”


Lucas Tomlinson

@LucasFoxNews
State Department says Iran responsible for killing 608 U.S. troops during Iraq War.

Qasem Soleimani led all Iranian and Iranian-backed forces in those operations.

17% of U.S. troops killed in Iraq from 2003 to 2011 orchestrated by Iran, State Dept. says

The Qod’s Force is Iran’s elite military force and is a designated terrorist organization.

The U.S. State Department reports the following details on the Qod’s Force:

The IRGC—most prominently through its Qods Force—has the greatest role among Iran’s actors in directing and carrying out a global terrorist campaign.
In recent years, IRGC Qods Force terrorist planning has been uncovered and disrupted in many countries, including Germany, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Kenya, Bahrain, and Turkey.
The IRGC Qods Force in 2011 plotted a brazen terrorist attack against the Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. on American soil. Fortunately, this plot was foiled.
In September 2018, a U.S. federal court found Iran and the IRGC liable for the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing which killed 19 Americans.
In 2012, IRGC Qods Force operatives were arrested in Turkey for plotting an attack and in Kenya for planning a bombing.
In January 2018, Germany uncovered ten IRGC operatives involved in a terrorist plot in Germany, and convicted another IRGC operative for surveilling a German-Israeli group.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:15:36   #
rumitoid
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Think about the thousands of people that died because of the terrorist butcher! How many more would have to be killed before you'd be okay with stopping him?


Think about law and order. That is the fundamental basis of our Republic. We are not a government that assassinates enemies in undeclared wars, no matter how much he deserved. It was flat-out wrong, and if you agree with that action you spit not only on our Constitution but all principles of liberty. We are based, or were, on due process. Trump spits on that basic right.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:19:45   #
Auntie Dee
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats are ok with stopping him. They are just not ok with Trump doing it. Obama was their big hero when Bin Laden died.


You hit the nail on the head!

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Jan 3, 2020 19:28:50   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
Think about law and order. That is the fundamental basis of our Republic. We are not a government that assassinates enemies in undeclared wars, no matter how much he deserved. It was flat-out wrong, and if you agree with that action you spit not only on our Constitution but all principles of liberty. We are based, or were, on due process. Trump spits on that basic right.


What happened to being on the fence? I knew this was your position all along. You are such a phony pretending to be objective.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:33:55   #
rumitoid
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Think about the thousands of people that died because of the terrorist butcher! How many more wuld ave to be klilled before you'd be okay with stopping him?


Would you have approved of killing, without trial, anyone accused of murder or plotting to commit it? Bundy, for instance. Screw our laws and Constitution? It seems so. Abandon the structure of our Republic, that has secured our nation for over 200 years, To carry out an illegal vendetta?

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