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Protestants under attack in Mexican community
Dec 29, 2019 05:58:15   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
A Mexican community is threatening Protestants there with being ejected from the town they live in unless they financially contribute to a Roman Catholic festival and that church's bells, ordered to support town's Catholic church or get out.

Earlier, eight Protestant families were forced to sign a document renouncing their faith and were warned that if they began attending Protestant services again their access to water, electricity, drainage services and social benefit programs would be blocked, the organization reported.

The Protestant minority are ordered to support the town's Catholic church or get out, according to an advocacy organization that works on behalf of Christians worldwide.

And yet, reports Christian Solidarity Worldwide, local government officials deny there is any problem.

CSW reported that a government secretary in Hidalgo state publicly announced "there are no cases of religious intolerance in the Huasteca region, despite evidence from Protestant Christians who were forcibly displaced in July and others who are currently under threat."

"We call on Gov. Fayad Meneses to take swift action to address the threats against religious minorities in his state, especially in the Huasteca region, and to ensure that officials in his administration uphold the law."

It was last July, CSW explained, that Protestant families in the village of la Mesa Limantitla were ordered to leave unless they made "financial contributions to local Roman Catholic festivals and participate in other activities which conflicted with their religious beliefs."

Anna-Lee Stangl, head of advocacy for CSW, said, "We are deeply troubled by the approach of the regional and state religious affairs officials in Hidalgo, who, by pressuring members of religious minorities to sign agreements that would obligate them to participate in the activities of a religion to which they do not belong, are complicit in serious violations of freedom of religion or belief and are promoting a resolution that contravenes Mexico’s own laws protecting fundamental human rights.

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Dec 29, 2019 07:16:50   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
A Mexican community is threatening Protestants there with being ejected from the town they live in unless they financially contribute to a Roman Catholic festival and that church's bells, ordered to support town's Catholic church or get out.

The Protestant minority are ordered to support the town's Catholic church or get out, according to an advocacy organization that works on behalf of Christians worldwide.

And yet, reports Christian Solidarity Worldwide, local government officials deny there is any problem.

CSW reported that a government secretary in Hidalgo state publicly announced "there are no cases of religious intolerance in the Huasteca region, despite evidence from Protestant Christians who were forcibly displaced in July and others who are currently under threat."

"We call on Gov. Fayad Meneses to take swift action to address the threats against religious minorities in his state, especially in the Huasteca region, and to ensure that officials in his administration uphold the law."

It was last July, CSW explained, that Protestant families in the village of la Mesa Limantitla were ordered to leave unless they made "financial contributions to local Roman Catholic festivals and participate in other activities which conflicted with their religious beliefs."

Earlier, eight Protestant families were forced to sign a document renouncing their faith and were warned that if they began attending Protestant services again their access to water, electricity, drainage services and social benefit programs would be blocked, the organization reported.

Anna-Lee Stangl, head of advocacy for CSW, said, "We are deeply troubled by the approach of the regional and state religious affairs officials in Hidalgo, who, by pressuring members of religious minorities to sign agreements that would obligate them to participate in the activities of a religion to which they do not belong, are complicit in serious violations of freedom of religion or belief and are promoting a resolution that contravenes Mexico’s own laws protecting fundamental human rights.
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Before the Boxer rebellion Chinese Christians experienced similar treatment...

In small communities everyone was expected to chip in for festivals and public holidays... Christians often refused because it was usually the Buddhist temples that collected the taxes and organized the activities....

When one is part of a community one needs to engage with the community...

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Dec 29, 2019 07:48:12   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Community is one thing.

Worship is quite another.

Losing your utilities unless you renounce your faith is hardly "neighborly."

Have you seen the movie, 'The Sand Pebbles', made in 1966, with Steve McQueen, covering American involvement in the Boxer Rebellion?


Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Before the Boxer rebellion Chinese Christians experienced similar treatment...

In small communities everyone was expected to chip in for festivals and public holidays... Christians often refused because it was usually the Buddhist temples that collected the taxes and organized the activities....

When one is part of a community one needs to engage with the community...

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Dec 29, 2019 08:39:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
Community is one thing.

Worship is quite another.

Losing your utilities unless you renounce your faith is hardly "neighborly."

Have you seen the movie, 'The Sand Pebbles', made in 1966, with Steve McQueen, covering American involvement in the Boxer Rebellion?


I have not...

Before my time...

Worth seeking out?

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Dec 29, 2019 08:50:11   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
The Sand Pebbles is a 1962 novel by American author Richard McKenna about a Yangtze River gunboat and its crew in 1926. It was the winner of the 1963 Harper Prize for fiction. The book was initially serialized in the Saturday Evening Post.

The Sand Pebbles is a 1966 American war film directed by Robert Wise in Panavision. It tells the story of an independent, rebellious U.S. Navy machinist's mate, first class aboard the fictional river gunboat USS San Pablo, on Yangtze Patrol in 1920s China.

The film features Steve McQueen, Richard Attenborough, Richard Crenna, Candice Bergen, Mako, Simon Oakland, Larry Gates, and Marayat Andriane. Robert Anderson adapted the screenplay from the 1962 novel of the same name by Richard McKenna.

Quote: "'The Sand Pebbles' is an historical fiction which portrays events and characters in China's 1926 uprising. I think Richard McKenna gives a very FAIR look at history and I cannot see McKenna's account of these events as revisionist in ANY way whatsoever. McKenna pretty much called it like it was; he was, after all, in 1930's China." End Quote

It is the first novel by a man who actually served on a U.S. Gunboat in China during the 1930's. It is a riveting tale about the Chinese revolution, Imperialism, missionaries, duty, honor and sacrifice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CuQvxQ75D4


Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have not...

Before my time...

Worth seeking out?

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Dec 29, 2019 09:00:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
The Sand Pebbles is a 1962 novel by American author Richard McKenna about a Yangtze River gunboat and its crew in 1926. It was the winner of the 1963 Harper Prize for fiction. The book was initially serialized in the Saturday Evening Post.

The Sand Pebbles is a 1966 American war film directed by Robert Wise in Panavision. It tells the story of an independent, rebellious U.S. Navy machinist's mate, first class aboard the fictional river gunboat USS San Pablo, on Yangtze Patrol in 1920s China.

The film features Steve McQueen, Richard Attenborough, Richard Crenna, Candice Bergen, Mako, Simon Oakland, Larry Gates, and Marayat Andriane. Robert Anderson adapted the screenplay from the 1962 novel of the same name by Richard McKenna.

Quote: "'The Sand Pebbles' is an historical fiction which portrays events and characters in China's 1926 uprising. I think Richard McKenna gives a very FAIR look at history and I cannot see McKenna's account of these events as revisionist in ANY way whatsoever. McKenna pretty much called it like it was; he was, after all, in 1930's China." End Quote

It is the first novel by a man who actually served on a U.S. Gunboat in China during the 1930's. It is a riveting tale about the Chinese revolution, Imperialism, missionaries, duty, honor and sacrifice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CuQvxQ75D4
The Sand Pebbles is a 1962 novel by American autho... (show quote)


Confused...

The Boxer Rebellion was in 1900...

Near the end of the Qing dynasty...

Is this movie portraying the Chinese Rebellion?

That took place in the year 1926...

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Dec 29, 2019 09:36:55   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I've rarely had occasion to study Chinese History, but apparently the film's promoters believed it was during a "boxer rebellion" in 1926.

The 1966 film is now almost 54 years old... too late to tell them if they had the historical perspective in their advertisement incorrect.

It really is the kind of film that keeps you seated and engaged - not many of those today.

- although it is not my all-time favorite (Lawrence of Arabia - 1962).


www.mcqueenonline.com/tsphv.htm
The Sand Pebbles. Set in China during the Boxer Rebellion of 1926, aboard a Naval vessel called the U.S.S. San Pablo. Steve McQueen received his first and last Academy Award nomination for his emotionally touching and powerful performance as ship's engineer Jake Holman.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Boxer-Rebellion
Boxer Rebellion, officially supported peasant uprising of 1900 that attempted to drive all foreigners from China. “Boxers” was a name that foreigners gave to a Chinese secret society known as the Yihequan (“Righteous and Harmonious Fists”). The group practiced certain boxing and calisthenic rituals in the belief that this made them invulnerable.

It was thought to be an offshoot of the Eight Trigrams Society (Baguajiao), which had fomented rebellions against the Qing dynasty in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. Their original aim was the destruction of the dynasty and also of the Westerners who had a privileged position in China.



Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Confused...

The Boxer Rebellion was in 1900...

Near the end of the Qing dynasty...

Is this movie portraying the Chinese Rebellion?

That took place in the year 1926...

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Dec 30, 2019 11:53:21   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
A Mexican community is threatening Protestants there with being ejected from the town they live in unless they financially contribute to a Roman Catholic festival and that church's bells, ordered to support town's Catholic church or get out.

Earlier, eight Protestant families were forced to sign a document renouncing their faith and were warned that if they began attending Protestant services again their access to water, electricity, drainage services and social benefit programs would be blocked, the organization reported.

The Protestant minority are ordered to support the town's Catholic church or get out, according to an advocacy organization that works on behalf of Christians worldwide.

And yet, reports Christian Solidarity Worldwide, local government officials deny there is any problem.

CSW reported that a government secretary in Hidalgo state publicly announced "there are no cases of religious intolerance in the Huasteca region, despite evidence from Protestant Christians who were forcibly displaced in July and others who are currently under threat."

"We call on Gov. Fayad Meneses to take swift action to address the threats against religious minorities in his state, especially in the Huasteca region, and to ensure that officials in his administration uphold the law."

It was last July, CSW explained, that Protestant families in the village of la Mesa Limantitla were ordered to leave unless they made "financial contributions to local Roman Catholic festivals and participate in other activities which conflicted with their religious beliefs."

Anna-Lee Stangl, head of advocacy for CSW, said, "We are deeply troubled by the approach of the regional and state religious affairs officials in Hidalgo, who, by pressuring members of religious minorities to sign agreements that would obligate them to participate in the activities of a religion to which they do not belong, are complicit in serious violations of freedom of religion or belief and are promoting a resolution that contravenes Mexico’s own laws protecting fundamental human rights.
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I wonder how often this happens and isn’t reported. This is bad.

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Dec 30, 2019 14:37:29   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
This is temporal power at its worst.

Total power in a worldly institution corrupts totally.

Mexico has the second highest number of Catholics in the world. Most Mexicans have maintained their Catholic religious faith in comparison to other Latin American countries. 81% of Mexican Adults are Catholic.

Religion in Mexico" https://www.worldreligionnews.com/?p=23746

In a country like Mexico, where they have such a disproportionate percentage of the population, they are, with impunity, able to cut families off from water, heat and electricity, and are willing to do so, because they are not "one of them."

Where is the Christian sentiment?

"As ye do it unto the least of these, ye do it unto me." (Matthew 25:40)



Rose42 wrote:
I wonder how often this happens and isn’t reported. This is bad.

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