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Dec 30, 2019 21:18:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
They can't come to saving faith in Christ as he is portrayed in the koran. That christ is a false christ.


All people can come to saving faith...

It doesn't require a Bible to attain...

Reply
Dec 31, 2019 06:34:28   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
"Go now, write it on a tablet in their presence and inscribe it on a scroll; it will be for the days to come, a witness forever and ever."-Isaiah 30:8

There are two different versions of Jesus Christ, one in the Quran and one which is Biblical. Quite clearly, the Qur'an, Hadiths, and Traditions, and the Holy Bible are not describing the same Jesus.

1. Quran Jesus is a created human

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam: he created him from dust, then said to him, "Be": and he was. Qur'an: Sura 3:59
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is eternal

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. John 8:58

2. Quran Jesus is not the Lamb of God who was slain

That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.’ But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of surety they killed him not: Qur'an: Surah 4.157
vs.
Biblical Jesus is the Lamb of God

Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Gospel of John 1:29


3. Quran Jesus sent Mohammed (not the Holy Spirit)

And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’. [al-Saff 61:6]
vs.
Biblical Jesus sent the Holy Spirit (Comforter) which came at Pentecost 50 days later NOT five hundred years later (Mohammed)

But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost John 14:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:7

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence. Acts 1:5


4. Islam says Salvation is found only in the Five Pillars of Islam omitting Jesus

Salvation can only be found in the Five Pillars of Shahada (Testifying of God’s Oneness), Salat (Prayer), Saum (Fasting), Zakat (Charity), and Hajj (Pilgrimage). (Qur'an: Surah Al-Maa’idah 5:116)
vs.
Biblical Jesus: Salvation is found in none other than himself

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12

If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts 16:31


5. Islam Jesus is an involuntary Slave to Allah

I will then say what the Pious Slave Jesus the son of Mary said...(Hadith: Narrated by Ibn Abbas 5.117-118). Jesus..although he is jus one of Allah’s slaves. (Hadith: Narrated Nafi, 007.063.209). You’d better got to Jesus, Allah’s slave (Hadith: Narrated Anas, 009.093.532, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 507.)
vs.
Biblical Jesus made himself a voluntary servant

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2: 6-8


6. Quran Jesus was never crucified and therefore was not resurrected

And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture.

For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]: But Allah raised him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All Powerful, All Wise [al-Nisaa’ 4:157-158]
vs.
Biblical Jesus which (by his death and resurrection) saved his people from their sins

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11;25

And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
I Corinthians 15:14

7. Quran Jesus is not the God in the flesh as the Messiah

Surely, they have disbelieved who say: Allah is the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)’ [al-Maa’idah 5:72]

Surely, disbelievers are those who said: ‘Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no AIlah (god) (none who has the right to be worshiped) but One Allah (God —Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them. [al-Maa’idah 5:73]

and

Quran Jesus is NOT the Son of God (whoever believes he is will be thrown into the fire)

Then the sects differed [i.e. the Christians about ‘Eesa (Jesus)], so woe unto the disbelievers [those who gave false witness by saying that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is the son of Allah] from the Meeting of a great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection, when they will be thrown in the blazing Fire) [Qur'an: Maryam 19:34-38]

That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allah). But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children). There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allah) as a slave [Maryam 19:88-93]

Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. Qur'an: Surah 4.171
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is the Word Made Flesh and dwelt among us and is the Son of God

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth. John 1;14

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16


8. Quran Jesus can not be worshiped

And behold, Allah will say--O Jesus Son of Mary, did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods beside Allah? He will reply - Glory to you, I could never say what I had not right [to say] Qur'an Surah al-Maa’idah 5:116

Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him.. Qur'an: Sura 5:75
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is commanded to be worshiped (by both men and angels)

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:11

And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6


9. Quran Jesus not fit to be intercessor

They will go to Jesus who will say, ‘I am not fit for this undertaking, but you’d better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and future had been forgiven (by Allah)’ Hadith Volume 9, Book 93, Number 507.
vs.
Biblical Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man

(Jesus alone is the sinless Lamb of God. How could Mohammed, a sinner, be more fit than Jesus?)

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; I Timothy 2:5

Hence, also, He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. Hebrews 7:25


10. Quran Jesus will judge by the Law of the Quran and not by the Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 vol 7)
vs.
Biblical Jesus will judge by both the Old and New Testament (Gospel)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Torah), till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 12:48

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 2:16


11. Quran Jesus is simply another prophet

Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: Qur'an Surah 2.136, 2.84
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is the name above all names

Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: Ephesians 1:21

12. Quran Jesus Returns in yellow garments

Jesus (peace be upon him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310)
vs.
Biblical Jesus returns in arrayed in white light

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire. Daniel 7:9

The following verses describe Christ’s Transfiguration; virtually identical to his portrayal as Ancient of Days and therefore his Second Coming:

And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. Matthew 17:2

And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. Mark 9:3

And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment [was] white [and] glistering. Luke 9:29


13. Quran Jesus lands near a Minaret in Damascus, Syria

Most Muslims believe that Jesus descent from heaven will be accomplished by resting his hands on the wings of two angels. He will descend onto the white minaret, situated in the eastern part of Damascus. He will invite the whole world to be Muslim including Christians and Jews. (Mawdudi, A.A, Finality of Prophethood, pp. 58-61), and (Vol 18, Hadith No. 814)

Hadrat Hudaifa b. Yama relates (with reference to Dajjal),

When the Muslims will fall in lines to offer prayers, Christ son of Mary (PBUH) shall descend from heaven before their eyes. He will lead the prayers. When the prayers are over he will say to the people: "Clear the way between me and this enemy of God." God will give victory to the Muslims over the hosts of Dajjal. The Muslims will inflict dire punishment upon the enemy. Even the trees and stones will cry out, "O Abdullah, O Abdul Rahman, O Muslim, come, here is a Jew behind me, kill him." In this way God will cause the Jews to be annihilated and Muslims shall be the victors. They will break the Cross, slaughter the swine and abolish Jizya (levied on non-Muslims).
(Mustadrak Hakim - A brief version of this tradition has been recorded in Muslim. Hafiz Ibn Hajar in Fath-ul-Bari Vol. VI, p. 450 declares this tradition to be authentic.)
vs.
Biblical Jesus descends and lands on the Mount of Olives near Jerusalem

And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, Zechariah 14:4

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11


14. Quran Jesus will die forty years after his return

He (Jesus) will perish all religions except Islam. He (Jesus) will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310). After his death, he will be buried beside the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (Wali ad-Din, Miskat Al-Masabih, (tr. James Robson), Vol.II, p.1159; Sahih Muslim, Vol.1, p.92).
vs
Biblical Jesus is alive forevermore

But because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. Hebrews 7:24

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 1:18



Jesus Christ himself said, "many false Christs will come in my name claiming he is the Christ and DECEIVE many." (Matthew 24:24 and Mark 13:22).
In Galatians it is recorded that if any man preach a different Gospel (another Jesus) which is NO gospel at all, let him be eternally damned. (Galatians 1:6-9)

The Apostle John says that whoever denies Christ came in the flesh (as God’s son) is an antichrist.

God is not an author of confusion, therefore the Quran's Jesus is an imaginary Jesus.

The Biblical Jesus is the true Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6).

Any other Jesus is the Prince of Darkness.

If you believe the Quran's Jesus is the true Christ, worship him and him only.

If you believe the Biblical Jesus is the true Christ, worship Him and Him only.

For no one can serve two masters! Amen!



Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
All people can come to saving faith...

It doesn't require a Bible to attain...

Reply
Dec 31, 2019 06:38:05   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
All people can come to saving faith...

It doesn't require a Bible to attain...


One can’t find salvation in islam. That is a path to destruction.

Reply
 
 
Dec 31, 2019 07:25:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
One can’t find salvation in islam. That is a path to destruction.


One can find salvation everywhere.... That is the Truth of God...

One has but to seek...

Reply
Dec 31, 2019 07:26:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
"Go now, write it on a tablet in their presence and inscribe it on a scroll; it will be for the days to come, a witness forever and ever."-Isaiah 30:8

There are two different versions of Jesus Christ, one in the Quran and one which is Biblical. Quite clearly, the Qur'an, Hadiths, and Traditions, and the Holy Bible are not describing the same Jesus.

1. Quran Jesus is a created human

The similitude of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam: he created him from dust, then said to him, "Be": and he was. Qur'an: Sura 3:59
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is eternal

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. John 8:58

2. Quran Jesus is not the Lamb of God who was slain

That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.’ But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of surety they killed him not: Qur'an: Surah 4.157
vs.
Biblical Jesus is the Lamb of God

Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Gospel of John 1:29


3. Quran Jesus sent Mohammed (not the Holy Spirit)

And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’. [al-Saff 61:6]
vs.
Biblical Jesus sent the Holy Spirit (Comforter) which came at Pentecost 50 days later NOT five hundred years later (Mohammed)

But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost John 14:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:7

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Acts 1:5


4. Islam says Salvation is found only in the Five Pillars of Islam omitting Jesus

Salvation can only be found in the Five Pillars of Shahada (Testifying of God’s Oneness), Salat (Prayer), Saum (Fasting), Zakat (Charity), and Hajj (Pilgrimage). (Qur'an: Surah Al-Maa’idah 5:116)
vs.
Biblical Jesus: Salvation is found in none other than himself

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12

If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts 16:31


5. Islam Jesus is an involuntary Slave to Allah

I will then say what the Pious Slave Jesus the son of Mary said...(Hadith: Narrated by Ibn Abbas 5.117-118). Jesus..although he is jus one of Allah’s slaves. (Hadith: Narrated Nafi, 007.063.209). You’d better got to Jesus, Allah’s slave (Hadith: Narrated Anas, 009.093.532, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 507.)
vs.
Biblical Jesus made himself a voluntary servant

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2: 6-8


6. Quran Jesus was never crucified and therefore was not resurrected

And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]: But Allah raised him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All Powerful, All Wise [al-Nisaa’ 4:157-158]
vs.
Biblical Jesus which (by his death and resurrection) saved his people from their sins

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11;25

And if Christ be not risen, then [is] our preaching vain, and your faith [is] also vain.
I Corinthians 15:14

7. Quran Jesus is not the God in the flesh as the Messiah

Surely, they have disbelieved who say: Allah is the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)’ [al-Maa’idah 5:72]

Surely, disbelievers are those who said: ‘Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no AIlah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One AIlah (God —Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them. [al-Maa’idah 5:73]

and

Quran Jesus is NOT the Son of God (whoever believes he is will be thrown into the fire)

Then the sects differed [i.e. the Christians about ‘Eesa (Jesus)], so woe unto the disbelievers [those who gave false witness by saying that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is the son of Allah] from the Meeting of a great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection, when they will be thrown in the blazing Fire) [Qur'an: Maryam 19:34-38]

That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allah). But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children). There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allah) as a slave [Maryam 19:88-93]

Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. Qur'an: Surah 4.171
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is the Word Made Flesh and dwelt among us and is the Son of God

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth. John 1;14

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16


8. Quran Jesus can not be worshiped

And behold, Allah will say--O Jesus Son of Mary, did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods beside Allah? He will reply--Glory to you, I could never say what I had not right [to say] Qur'an Surah al-Maa’idah 5:116

Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him.. Qur'an: Sura 5:75
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is commanded to be worshiped (by both men and angels)

And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:11

And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6


9. Quran Jesus not fit to be intercessor

They will go to Jesus who will say, ‘I am not fit for this undertaking, but you’d better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and future had been forgiven (by Allah)’ Hadith Volume 9, Book 93, Number 507.
vs.
Biblical Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man

(Jesus is alone the sinless Lamb of God. How could a Mohammed a sinner be more fit than Jesus)

For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; I Timothy 2:5

Hence, also, He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. Hebrews 7:25


10. Quran Jesus will judge by the Law of the Quran and not by the Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 vol 7)
vs.
Biblical Jesus will judge by both the Old and New Testament (Gospel)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Torah), till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 12:48

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 2:16


11. Quran Jesus is simply another prophet

Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: Qur'an Surah 2.136, 2.84
vs.
Biblical Jesus who is the name above all names

Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: Ephesians 1:21

12. Quran Jesus Returns in yellow garments

Jesus (peace be upon him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310)
vs.
Biblical Jesus returns in arrayed in white light

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire. Daniel 7:9

The following verses describe Christ’s Transfiguration; virtually identical to his portrayal as Ancient of Days and therefore his Second Coming:

And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. Matthew 17:2

And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. Mark 9:3

And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment [was] white [and] glistering. Luke 9:29


13. Quran Jesus lands near a Minaret in Damascus, Syria

Most Muslims believe that Jesus descent from heaven will be accomplished by resting his hands on the wings of two angels. He will descend onto the white minaret, situated in the eastern part of Damascus. He will invite the whole world to be Muslim including Christians and Jews. (Mawdudi, A.A, Finality of Prophethood, pp. 58-61), and (Vol 18, Hadith No. 814)

Hadrat Hudaifa b. Yama relates (with reference to Dajjal),

When the Muslims will fall in lines to offer prayers, Christ son of Mary (PBUH) shall descend from heaven before their eyes. He will lead the prayers. When the prayers are over he will say to the people: "Clear the way between me and this enemy of God." God will give victory to the Muslims over the hosts of Dajjal. The Muslims will inflict dire punishment upon the enemy. Even the trees and stones will cry out, "O Abdullah, O Abdul Rahman, O Muslim, come, here is a Jew behind me, kill him." In this way God will cause the Jews to be annihilated and Muslims shall be the victors. They will break the Cross, slaughter the swine and abolish Jizya (levied on non-Muslims).
(Mustadrak Hakim - A brief version of this tradition has been recorded in Muslim. Hafiz Ibn Hajar in Fath-ul-Bari Vol. VI, p. 450 declares this tradition to be authentic.)
vs.
Biblical Jesus descends and lands on the Mount of Olives near Jerusalem

And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, Zechariah 14:4

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11


14. Quran Jesus will die forty years after his return

He (Jesus) will perish all religions except Islam. He (Jesus) will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310). After his death, he will be buried beside the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (Wali ad-Din, Miskat Al-Masabih, (tr. James Robson), Vol.II, p.1159; Sahih Muslim, Vol.1, p.92).
vs
Biblical Jesus is alive forevermore

But because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. Hebrews 7:24

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 1:18



Jesus Christ himself said, "many false Christs will come in my name claiming he is the Christ and DECEIVE many." (Matthew 24:24 and Mark 13:22).
In Galatians it is recorded that if any man preach a different Gospel (another Jesus) which is NO gospel at all, let him be eternally damned. (Galatians 1:6-9)

The Apostle John says that whoever denies Christ came in the flesh (as God’s son) is an antichrist.

God is not an author of confusion, therefore the Quran's Jesus is an imaginary Jesus.

The Biblical Jesus is the true Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6).

Any other Jesus is the Prince of Darkness.

If you believe the Quran's Jesus is the true Christ, worship him and him only.

If you believe the Biblical Jesus is the true Christ, worship Him and Him only.

For no one can serve two masters! Amen!
"Go now, write it on a tablet in their presen... (show quote)


Never said there weren't differences...

Only stated that Jesus was recognized as different from all other prophets in Islam

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Dec 31, 2019 07:51:09   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I've learned over a lifetime that there are few awards for "being different."

It is, however, because Jesus is Deity that makes of Him an entirely new ballgame.


Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Never said there weren't differences...

Only stated that Jesus was recognized as different from all other prophets in Islam

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Dec 31, 2019 10:35:50   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
One can find salvation everywhere.... That is the Truth of God...

One has but to seek...


No they can't. That is Satan's truth not God's truth.

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Jan 7, 2020 20:06:18   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
God has said He can make His followers stand in lesser matters, and how much more is He able to give instruction to those who have the faith of a mustard seed?

Romans 14
Berean Study Bible

The Law of Liberty
(Matthew 7:1-6; Luke 6:37-42)

1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions.
2For one man has faith to eat all things, while another, who is weak, eats only vegetables.
3The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
6He who observes a special day does so to the Lord;a he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

7For none of us lives to himself alone, and none of us dies to himself alone.
8If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this reason Christ died and returned to life, so that He might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.
11It is written:

“As surely as I live,

says the Lord,

every knee will bow before Me;

every tongue will confess to God.”b

12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

The Law of Love
(Ezekiel 14:1-11; 1 Corinthians 8:1-13)

13Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way.

14I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
15If your brother is distressed by what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother, for whom Christ died.

16Do not allow what you consider good, then, to be spoken of as evil.
17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
18For whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

19So then, let us pursue what leads to peace and to mutual edification.
20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to let his eating be a stumbling block.
21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything to cause your brother to stumble.c

22Keep your belief about such matters between yourself and God.d Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves.
23But the one who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that is not from faith is sin.e


Footnotes:

6 a BYZ and TR include and he who does not regard the day, to the Lord he does not regard it.
11 b Or will give praise to God; Or will give acknowledge God; Isaiah 45:23 (see also LXX)
21 c SBL, BYZ, and TR include or to be hindered or weakened
22 d Literally Keep the faith that you have to yourself before God
23 e Some manuscripts place Romans 16:25-27 here, or after Romans 15:33.
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Armageddun wrote:
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