permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The national dialog over impeachment can be summed up as:

Trump broke the law.
You just don’t respect the fact that I v**ed for Trump. I’m offended.
So what? Trump…
I AM OFFENDED AND YOU HAD BETTER SHUT UP OR I WILL REALLY LOSE MY TEMPER
So I ask you: how can we trust Trump’s base again?

son of witless

Palease. You never trusted Trump's base. Spare us the f**e moral outrage. When Bill hounddog Clinton was House Impeached, he had been found guilty of perjury, by lying about his blow job. A court found him guilty. Unless a court finds Trump guilty of a crime he is not guilty. The House Democrat Impeachment is not a court. It has no legal standing when it comes to a crime.

It is strictly a political exercise. I hope I cleared all of this confusion up for you. As Joe Friday used to say, " just the facts ".

American Vet

You inane dialogue starts with a false assumption.....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Trump broke the law?

Execute him....

Or Trump played the law?

That's called politics...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Your entire comment is a fraud. Trump broke no law. The left now d**gs the country through this farce, pretending to have the moral high ground, but ignore the true crooks and the laws they broke.

Clinton colluded with foreign agents to get dirt on her political rival. Obama's FBI/CIA became politicized, broke the law many times in their spying efforts against the Trump campaign and presidency.

The democrats now continue the lie even more with their f**e outrage against the Trump administration and objective people can see it all too well.

The majority of the media are complicit with the lies acting as pundits rather than journalists, trying to assist the democrats in the lie.

Pursuing an impeachment with not a single republican taking that side is not constitutional; it is not how the founding fathers envisioned impeachment.


HOWEVER, much is yet to be revealed and I suspect the democrats, despite the false front they and the media portray, are truly worried now. In 2020, because of this, the republicans could very well regain the majority in the House. They will certainly retain it in the Senate. Trump will most likely be re-elected. Then what?? What will the democrats do when all that happens?????

A "journalist" on MSLSD yesterday said we are witnessing the end of the republican party. Really?

Again, not one single republican supports the impeachment of Trump. But when all is said and done, many democratic Congressman and Senators could find themselves on the other end of impeachment. The dem's have now defined high crimes and misdemeanors as something akin to disagreement.

Good luck with that!

Wonttakeitanymore

We will overcome God placed him there and is the only one that can remove him! Listen to ur wife!! I hear she’s a conservative! You are blind! As blind as when u supported ovomit the antichrist!

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Trump h**ers just can't come to grips that he beat their cherished lovable Hillary crooked loser lost !

They lost an e******n they r****d
They lost an investigation they r****d
They will also lose an attempted c**p that they've r****d !

Losers Losers the whole lot of them !

son of witless

Did Trump break the law ? No. If he did, then bring criminal charges against him and see how it goes in court. No way would this fly in a court room. Joe Biden's big mouth was evidence of a crime. Trump asking for an investigation beats the rap just on that point. Plus Biden is not Trump's political opponent. He is the opponent of Warren, crazy Bernie etc.

Every time Democrats pull crap like this it comes back to bite them later. When they unleashed the nuclear option, Republicans later on used it against them.

Pelosi was hemmed in by the Young Turks of her party. She tried to resist, but in the end she had to give them their head. If all of this does blow up on them, the blame game will get very entertaining.

Divine truth

I'm a firm supporter of President Trump, and I'm not offended by the Satanic demonic behavior of the Democ-rats, and their showing of their mental disorder, and pure insanity.

I will defend my political position, and stand tall with the president. He's broke or violated no laws, or committed any impeachable offensives.

The judicial members, Congress, the speaker and everyone that supported her, committed major criminal acts, and should be prosecuted, and executed by the people.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Spot On !

Sad to say it but it's doubtful that this criminals you speak of will be held accountable far too much Deep State people in charge and will stop at nothing to prevent any of their kind held accountable !

waltmoreno

permie is just spouting off and baiting anyone who’ll respond to him.
What he and all the other loony lefties here on OPP should do is take a gander at what just happened in the UK a couple of days ago. They might wanna consider it as a harbinger of what’s gonna happen here in less than a year.
It seems as if their lefty radical candidate Jeremy Corbin, who ran as a socialist, collectivist, identity politics platform, with heavy emphasis on victim status and grievances, was annihilated by conservative Boris Johnson. The mauling was the worst for the labor party since the 1930s. 365-203.
So take note, Dems. A word to the wise is sufficient.
That would be the equivalent to the 2020 e******n with Trump winning Cali, New York, and Illinois besides all the other states he already won in 2016.
This impeachment fiasco is the last straw for many v**ers. The Dems have awakened a sleeping giant and will rue the day they ever tried to impeach Trump.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

There is a real problem with the notion that the POTUS broke the law. It boils down to a number of things, and I will address two:
1. Who was the POTUS asking a favor for? Was it the USA as was t***scribed? Or was it personal, as Democrats claim? If for the US, then the "law" was not even bent, not a scratch. If it was for himself, why would he include the distress or ordeal our nation has suffered? Recall when on the campaign trail and he teased, “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Notice that this was from a personal point, or a personal message. Even this, he offered no quid pro quo..."you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press." Recall, an individual can not enter into a contract, and quid pro quo is a non-merchant's contract, for an entity they do not control.

2. Intent. Recall that K**lary dodged criminal charges because the FBI claimed they could not find evidence of intent. In the phone call, a request was made for investigation into corruption in Ukraine. That is a fact, no walking around it. As the POTUS, this was not a breach of law. The "permission" is the contract between the USA and Ukraine signed by B. Clinton. So, asking for the investigation was/is legal. So, it boils down to intent. Did the POTUS intend to use the information for personal use? If for personal use, then why ask the investigating entity to coordinate and provide the information to our Attorney General and not as a sealed dossier to himself? Recall the Steele Dossier was given directly to the DNC. The Steele dossier was to be used as a campaign smear campaign, dirt digging (common in campaigns, although questionable because a foreign entity was commissioned to get the dirt from another nation). Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained Fusion GPS to dig dirt on Trump in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC who initially paid for the contract.

Your second statement, "You just don’t respect the fact that I v**ed for Trump." I believe this to be a true and honest statement. Recall, Democrats started in Jan 2017 v****g for impeachment because the POTUS criticized kneeling NFL players. Rep. Al Green, who drafted the articles, said at the time that Trump, “by causing such harm to the society of the United States is unfit to be president and warrants impeachment, trial and removal from office.” Then 3 more attempts followed: saying “sh-thole countries (A month later, in January 2018, Green again brought forward articles of impeachment, this time because Trump described some nations as “sh-thole countries.” This time around, 66 Democrats v**ed for impeachment, including McGovern (again) and Rep. Maxine Waters (who publicly called on her supporters to violate Republicans), now chair of the House Financial Services Committee) ,” and finally, tweeting mean things about the Squad. : 95 Democrats v**ed for it in July 2019—more than 40 percent of the caucus. Trump’s “high crime” this time around was that he tweeted some mean things about the Squad. He’d said Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna S. Pressley and Rashida Tlaib should “go back” to their home countries if they don’t like America (all the congresswomen except Omar were born in the United States). All four of them were among the 95 Democrats who v**ed for impeachment in July, as was House Judiciary Committee Chair Rep. Jerry Nadler. On Thursday, Nadler said it’s the “solemn duty of the Congress to investigate serious allegations against the president.” So, now they are about to impeach because they selectively read a transcript and brought selected anti-Trump witnesses to support their case while not allowing a single witness for the defense. Honestly, I am thinking about doing a stuffed kangaroo drive and sending them in-mass to Nadler in protest!

In closing, you asked how "we" can trust Trump's base. A better question would be "How can WE(Democrats/Progressives, Republicans, Conservatives and all parties in between) trust the current House to logically and thoughtfully represent us as a nation after their unending pursuit of impeaching the POTUS for frivolous and unproven crimes?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Joe Biden's guilt is underscored by Obama not coming forward to contradict the video or to proclaim his innocence....Why not, if his actions were stanchioned, as the Democrats would have us believe. Crickets!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Obama is laying low for obvious reasons.

Lonewolf

Just the fact that he asked russia for help in the e******n was a crime