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Dec 13, 2019 07:26:06   #
Cuda2020
 
Trump has given them another chance to break away. Why won’t they take it?

In a sane world, the reaction of Republicans to the “memorandum of telephone conversation” between President Trump and the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, combined with the whistle-blower complaint filed by an intelligence officer describing a White House cover-up, would be similar to the response of Republicans after the release, on Aug. 5, 1974, of the “smoking gun” tape that finally broke the Nixon presidency. Republicans would begin to abandon Mr. Trump, with senior figures urging him in private and in public to resign. But that's in a sane world.

We now live in the insane world,

Mr. Trump’s party not only refuse to challenge his maliciousness; they have adopted his approach. They have embraced his “will to power” worldview. After dealing with Mr. Trump, “you’re definitely denuded and jaded,” one Republican who has interacted recently with members of Congress told me. “Your sense of perspective is totally warped.”

Many Republicans now find themselves in a place they never envisioned — not only defending Mr. Trump but doing so with gusto. Those who once defended traditional values now relish siding with the Great T***sgressor. “Owning the libs” turns out to be a lot of fun. But it also comes at a high cost.

A person who was once an aide to a current Republican senator told me that his former boss, who in private will concede that he is quite troubled by Mr. Trump’s unethical conduct, will say “nothing that would cause the president to question his complete loyalty.” This individual went on to tell me, “The sad part about this is that no policy or new law is worth undercutting our norms and checks on power that will cause irreparable damage to our system.”

The Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump, through and through. As such, it has become morally disfigured. The party finds itself deep in a dark alleyway. It can eventually find its way back. Renewal and regeneration are always possible. But that will require the Republican Party and its future leadership to repudiate much of what it now embodies. I happen to believe that this is an essential task. But it won’t be an easy one, and every day it is delayed, the harder it becomes.

Mr. Trump’s most recent abuse of power — pressuring the Ukrainian president to do his dirty work — is the latest link in a long chain of corruption. If Republicans don’t break with the president now, after all he has done and all he is likely to do, they will pay a fearsome price generationally, demographically and, above all, morally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/republicans-trump-impeachment.html

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Dec 13, 2019 07:47:18   #
Liberty Tree
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Trump has given them another chance to break away. Why won’t they take it?

In a sane world, the reaction of Republicans to the “memorandum of telephone conversation” between President Trump and the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, combined with the whistle-blower complaint filed by an intelligence officer describing a White House cover-up, would be similar to the response of Republicans after the release, on Aug. 5, 1974, of the “smoking gun” tape that finally broke the Nixon presidency. Republicans would begin to abandon Mr. Trump, with senior figures urging him in private and in public to resign. But that's in a sane world.

We now live in the insane world,

Mr. Trump’s party not only refuse to challenge his maliciousness; they have adopted his approach. They have embraced his “will to power” worldview. After dealing with Mr. Trump, “you’re definitely denuded and jaded,” one Republican who has interacted recently with members of Congress told me. “Your sense of perspective is totally warped.”

Many Republicans now find themselves in a place they never envisioned — not only defending Mr. Trump but doing so with gusto. Those who once defended traditional values now relish siding with the Great T***sgressor. “Owning the libs” turns out to be a lot of fun. But it also comes at a high cost.

A person who was once an aide to a current Republican senator told me that his former boss, who in private will concede that he is quite troubled by Mr. Trump’s unethical conduct, will say “nothing that would cause the president to question his complete loyalty.” This individual went on to tell me, “The sad part about this is that no policy or new law is worth undercutting our norms and checks on power that will cause irreparable damage to our system.”

The Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump, through and through. As such, it has become morally disfigured. The party finds itself deep in a dark alleyway. It can eventually find its way back. Renewal and regeneration are always possible. But that will require the Republican Party and its future leadership to repudiate much of what it now embodies. I happen to believe that this is an essential task. But it won’t be an easy one, and every day it is delayed, the harder it becomes.

Mr. Trump’s most recent abuse of power — pressuring the Ukrainian president to do his dirty work — is the latest link in a long chain of corruption. If Republicans don’t break with the president now, after all he has done and all he is likely to do, they will pay a fearsome price generationally, demographically and, above all, morally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/republicans-trump-impeachment.html
Trump has given them another chance to break away.... (show quote)


Same old liberal rant. Time to get a new song to play. This one is worn out and no one is listening anymore.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:00:56   #
Cuda2020
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Same old liberal rant. Time to get a new song to play. This one is worn out and no one is listening anymore.


Then try and explain your attitude in why you support a person with this level moral depravity and want him to continue on rather than replacing him with someone, anyone, who actually has some sense of decorum because right now, his path of destruction to our country by promoting this d******eness and dismantling our constitution and democracy is unsurpassed.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:12:05   #
Liberty Tree
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Then try and explain your attitude in why you support a person with this level moral depravity and want him to continue on rather than replacing him with someone, anyone, who actually has some sense of decorum because right now, his path of destruction to our country by promoting this d******eness and dismantling our constitution and democracy is unsurpassed.


My attitude is what it is because despite your twisting of facts it is the Democrats who h**e the Constitution, are causing division, are the real danger to our founding principles and republic. The Democrats are the ones who want to impeach a President because they h**e him personally and fear they cannot beat him in an e******n. Do yourself a favor and read and watch something besides ELWNJ sites.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:17:43   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Mr. Trump’s most recent abuse of power — pressuring the Ukrainian president to do his dirty work — is the latest link in a long chain of corruption.l


You mean investigating an American official who - quite openly - used his position of authority to enrich his family is "dirty work"? Well, I understand liberals believing this since it was old Joe.....

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Dec 13, 2019 08:19:34   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Then try and explain your attitude in why you support a person with this level moral depravity and want him to continue on rather than replacing him with someone, anyone, who actually has some sense of decorum because right now, his path of destruction to our country by promoting this d******eness and dismantling our constitution and democracy is unsurpassed.


You need to change channels away from CNN, who is dying a slow death from lack of viewers to someone who will tell you the t***h. No pressure on Zelensky, no quid pro quo, no obstruction. This is another attempt by dims in a long line of lies to o*******w a sitting president. Sorry for you it ain't gonna happen.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:27:03   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
You mean investigating an American official who - quite openly - used his position of authority to enrich his family is "dirty work"? Well, I understand liberals believing this since it was old Joe.....


Unlike Trump, Joe has been completely exonerated. H****r was not a president, the emoluments clause has nothing to do with H****r. Try again. Every time you guys can't defend the actions of Trump you try and divert, but this does excuse Trump. Trump has completely exploited his position for his and his family's financial gain.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:28:03   #
Liberty Tree
 
youngwilliam wrote:
You need to change channels away from CNN, who is dying a slow death from lack of viewers to someone who will tell you the t***h. No pressure on Zelensky, no quid pro quo, no obstruction. This is another attempt by dims in a long line of lies to o*******w a sitting president. Sorry for you it ain't gonna happen.


They never expose their minds to anything but extreme left philosophy so they think that is t***h.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:28:35   #
Gatsby
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Trump has given them another chance to break away. Why won’t they take it?

In a sane world, the reaction of Republicans to the “memorandum of telephone conversation” between President Trump and the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, combined with the whistle-blower complaint filed by an intelligence officer describing a White House cover-up, would be similar to the response of Republicans after the release, on Aug. 5, 1974, of the “smoking gun” tape that finally broke the Nixon presidency. Republicans would begin to abandon Mr. Trump, with senior figures urging him in private and in public to resign. But that's in a sane world.

We now live in the insane world,

Mr. Trump’s party not only refuse to challenge his maliciousness; they have adopted his approach. They have embraced his “will to power” worldview. After dealing with Mr. Trump, “you’re definitely denuded and jaded,” one Republican who has interacted recently with members of Congress told me. “Your sense of perspective is totally warped.”

Many Republicans now find themselves in a place they never envisioned — not only defending Mr. Trump but doing so with gusto. Those who once defended traditional values now relish siding with the Great T***sgressor. “Owning the libs” turns out to be a lot of fun. But it also comes at a high cost.

A person who was once an aide to a current Republican senator told me that his former boss, who in private will concede that he is quite troubled by Mr. Trump’s unethical conduct, will say “nothing that would cause the president to question his complete loyalty.” This individual went on to tell me, “The sad part about this is that no policy or new law is worth undercutting our norms and checks on power that will cause irreparable damage to our system.”

The Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump, through and through. As such, it has become morally disfigured. The party finds itself deep in a dark alleyway. It can eventually find its way back. Renewal and regeneration are always possible. But that will require the Republican Party and its future leadership to repudiate much of what it now embodies. I happen to believe that this is an essential task. But it won’t be an easy one, and every day it is delayed, the harder it becomes.

Mr. Trump’s most recent abuse of power — pressuring the Ukrainian president to do his dirty work — is the latest link in a long chain of corruption. If Republicans don’t break with the president now, after all he has done and all he is likely to do, they will pay a fearsome price generationally, demographically and, above all, morally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/republicans-trump-impeachment.html
Trump has given them another chance to break away.... (show quote)


It's not the world that's insane....

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Dec 13, 2019 08:30:30   #
Cuda2020
 
youngwilliam wrote:
You need to change channels away from CNN, who is dying a slow death from lack of viewers to someone who will tell you the t***h. No pressure on Zelensky, no quid pro quo, no obstruction. This is another attempt by dims in a long line of lies to o*******w a sitting president. Sorry for you it ain't gonna happen.


You may be right, it might not happen, due to the corrupt unconstitutional tribal actions of the senate. Who, would rather support a deviate president and party then our constitutional democratic republic.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:36:27   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
American Vet wrote:
You mean investigating an American official who - quite openly - used his position of authority to enrich his family is "dirty work"? Well, I understand liberals believing this since it was old Joe.....


Finish It
It was 1.5 Billion Dollars from China
86 Thousand Dollars a month from Burisma
And this waste of human flesh doesn't even know what a Kilowatt Is
BUT when the mother of his new born child gets through with him in court we will know everything we need to know about the Biden Family.
The court will say Seal Everything, But it will Leak... This is what Books Are Written About.
(Oh, and what does a man making over $10,000.00 a day Pay in Child Support?)
And finally, why isn't Homeland Security looking into the Bidens through the eyes of the Patriot Act? It definitely meets the criteria.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:44:45   #
hdjimv Loc: South Dakota
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Then try and explain your attitude in why you support a person with this level moral depravity and want him to continue on rather than replacing him with someone, anyone, who actually has some sense of decorum because right now, his path of destruction to our country by promoting this d******eness and dismantling our constitution and democracy is unsurpassed.


Because I would rather follow a rough around the edges, tell it like it is, human being instead of a silver tongued, snake oil selling, tell you what you want to hear, charlatan any day of the year.

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Dec 13, 2019 08:48:23   #
Liberty Tree
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You may be right, it might not happen, due to the corrupt unconstitutional tribal actions of the senate. Who, would rather support a deviate president and party then our constitutional democratic republic.


Stop bringing up the Constitution. Liberals like you h**e the Constitution. That is why you are always looking for some liberal judge to interpret it away from its original meaning and into a way that suits the far left agenda.

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Dec 13, 2019 09:14:49   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Trump has given them another chance to break away. Why won’t they take it?

In a sane world, the reaction of Republicans to the “memorandum of telephone conversation” between President Trump and the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, combined with the whistle-blower complaint filed by an intelligence officer describing a White House cover-up, would be similar to the response of Republicans after the release, on Aug. 5, 1974, of the “smoking gun” tape that finally broke the Nixon presidency. Republicans would begin to abandon Mr. Trump, with senior figures urging him in private and in public to resign. But that's in a sane world.

We now live in the insane world,

Mr. Trump’s party not only refuse to challenge his maliciousness; they have adopted his approach. They have embraced his “will to power” worldview. After dealing with Mr. Trump, “you’re definitely denuded and jaded,” one Republican who has interacted recently with members of Congress told me. “Your sense of perspective is totally warped.”

Many Republicans now find themselves in a place they never envisioned — not only defending Mr. Trump but doing so with gusto. Those who once defended traditional values now relish siding with the Great T***sgressor. “Owning the libs” turns out to be a lot of fun. But it also comes at a high cost.

A person who was once an aide to a current Republican senator told me that his former boss, who in private will concede that he is quite troubled by Mr. Trump’s unethical conduct, will say “nothing that would cause the president to question his complete loyalty.” This individual went on to tell me, “The sad part about this is that no policy or new law is worth undercutting our norms and checks on power that will cause irreparable damage to our system.”

The Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump, through and through. As such, it has become morally disfigured. The party finds itself deep in a dark alleyway. It can eventually find its way back. Renewal and regeneration are always possible. But that will require the Republican Party and its future leadership to repudiate much of what it now embodies. I happen to believe that this is an essential task. But it won’t be an easy one, and every day it is delayed, the harder it becomes.

Mr. Trump’s most recent abuse of power — pressuring the Ukrainian president to do his dirty work — is the latest link in a long chain of corruption. If Republicans don’t break with the president now, after all he has done and all he is likely to do, they will pay a fearsome price generationally, demographically and, above all, morally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/republicans-trump-impeachment.html
Trump has given them another chance to break away.... (show quote)


The piper will be coming for his pay.......................and it's gonna hurt.

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Dec 13, 2019 09:23:15   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You may be right, it might not happen, due to the corrupt unconstitutional tribal actions of the senate. Who, would rather support a deviate president and party then our constitutional democratic republic.


What s**thole sanctuary do you live in?

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