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Dec 6, 2019 18:25:33   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Pensacola Shooter Saudi Air Force Officer; In USA for flight school... 4 Dead...

AP
By Lolita C. Baldor
5:29 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. law enforcement officials were digging into the background of the suspected Florida Naval station shooter Friday, to determine the Saudi Air Force officer’s motive and whether it was connected to terrorism.

As questions swirled about the shooting, which left four people dead and multiple people wounded, officials identified the suspect as 2nd Lt. Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, an aviation officer in the Saudi Air Force. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Alshamrani was attending the aviation school at the base, one of hundreds of international military members who are receiving training there. The shooter opened fire in a classroom building on Friday morning.

The U.S. has long had a robust training program for Saudis, providing assistance in the U.S. and in the Kingdom. And the Trump administration has sent several Patriot missile batters and hundreds of troops to Saudi Arabia this year in the wake of attacks on the kingdom that officials blame on Iran.

On Friday, President Donald Trump said he got a call from Saudi King Salman, who expressed “his sincere condolences” and sent sympathies to the families of those involved.

“The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the American people,” said Trump in a tweet.

The shooting, however, shone a spotlight on what has been a sometimes rocky relationship with the kingdom.

The U.S. earlier this year agreed to send three Patriot missile batteries, dozens of fighter jets and other aircraft to Saudi Arabia. And in October, Defense Secretary Mark Esper visited Prince Sultan Air Base to see one of the batteries and talk about efforts to get other allies to contribute to the defense of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region to counter threats from Iran.

But the kingdom is still trying to recover from the k*****g last year of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Saudi intelligence officials and a forensic doctor k**led and dismembered Khashoggi on Oct. 2, 2018, just as his fiancée waited outside the diplomatic mission.

Khashoggi, long a royal court insider, had been in self-imposed exile in the U.S. while writing critically of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, son of the oil-rich nation’s King Salman.

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Dec 6, 2019 19:08:11   #
Liberty Tree
 
Zemirah wrote:
Pensacola Shooter Saudi Air Force Officer; In USA for flight school... 4 Dead...

AP
By Lolita C. Baldor
5:29 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. law enforcement officials were digging into the background of the suspected Florida Naval station shooter Friday, to determine the Saudi Air Force officer’s motive and whether it was connected to terrorism.

As questions swirled about the shooting, which left four people dead and multiple people wounded, officials identified the suspect as 2nd Lt. Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, an aviation officer in the Saudi Air Force. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Alshamrani was attending the aviation school at the base, one of hundreds of international military members who are receiving training there. The shooter opened fire in a classroom building on Friday morning.

The U.S. has long had a robust training program for Saudis, providing assistance in the U.S. and in the Kingdom. And the Trump administration has sent several Patriot missile batters and hundreds of troops to Saudi Arabia this year in the wake of attacks on the kingdom that officials blame on Iran.

On Friday, President Donald Trump said he got a call from Saudi King Salman, who expressed “his sincere condolences” and sent sympathies to the families of those involved.

“The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the American people,” said Trump in a tweet.

The shooting, however, shone a spotlight on what has been a sometimes rocky relationship with the kingdom.

The U.S. earlier this year agreed to send three Patriot missile batteries, dozens of fighter jets and other aircraft to Saudi Arabia. And in October, Defense Secretary Mark Esper visited Prince Sultan Air Base to see one of the batteries and talk about efforts to get other allies to contribute to the defense of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region to counter threats from Iran.

But the kingdom is still trying to recover from the k*****g last year of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Saudi intelligence officials and a forensic doctor k**led and dismembered Khashoggi on Oct. 2, 2018, just as his fiancée waited outside the diplomatic mission.

Khashoggi, long a royal court insider, had been in self-imposed exile in the U.S. while writing critically of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, son of the oil-rich nation’s King Salman.
Pensacola Shooter Saudi Air Force Officer; In USA ... (show quote)


Why was he here? Wasn't it Saudi air students who flew into the twin towers?

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Dec 6, 2019 19:16:59   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Zemirah wrote:
Pensacola Shooter Saudi Air Force Officer; In USA for flight school... 4 Dead...

AP
By Lolita C. Baldor
5:29 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. law enforcement officials were digging into the background of the suspected Florida Naval station shooter Friday, to determine the Saudi Air Force officer’s motive and whether it was connected to terrorism.

As questions swirled about the shooting, which left four people dead and multiple people wounded, officials identified the suspect as 2nd Lt. Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, an aviation officer in the Saudi Air Force. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Alshamrani was attending the aviation school at the base, one of hundreds of international military members who are receiving training there. The shooter opened fire in a classroom building on Friday morning.

The U.S. has long had a robust training program for Saudis, providing assistance in the U.S. and in the Kingdom. And the Trump administration has sent several Patriot missile batters and hundreds of troops to Saudi Arabia this year in the wake of attacks on the kingdom that officials blame on Iran.

On Friday, President Donald Trump said he got a call from Saudi King Salman, who expressed “his sincere condolences” and sent sympathies to the families of those involved.

“The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the American people,” said Trump in a tweet.

The shooting, however, shone a spotlight on what has been a sometimes rocky relationship with the kingdom.

The U.S. earlier this year agreed to send three Patriot missile batteries, dozens of fighter jets and other aircraft to Saudi Arabia. And in October, Defense Secretary Mark Esper visited Prince Sultan Air Base to see one of the batteries and talk about efforts to get other allies to contribute to the defense of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region to counter threats from Iran.

But the kingdom is still trying to recover from the k*****g last year of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Saudi intelligence officials and a forensic doctor k**led and dismembered Khashoggi on Oct. 2, 2018, just as his fiancée waited outside the diplomatic mission.

Khashoggi, long a royal court insider, had been in self-imposed exile in the U.S. while writing critically of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, son of the oil-rich nation’s King Salman.
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I think the Muslim Brotherhood is behind most of this crap and they should begin to be weeded out. Wh**ever it takes. Or cut off all travel of Muslims into the US wherever the terrorist originates from, for one year.

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Dec 6, 2019 21:45:25   #
Kevyn
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Why was he here? Wasn't it Saudi air students who flew into the twin towers?


Are you that dense? It’s good for business, Trumps business that is.... why should a few dead Americans interrupt “the Art of the deal”?



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Dec 6, 2019 23:57:39   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Fifteen of the Nineteen "911" hijackers were Saudi Arabian.

There is much about our "special" relationship with Saudi Arabia that has not been made known to the public.

If we're going to admit them, each should be given a "trained" and armed U.S. "escort" while in the U.S. to safeguard our own citizens.


Liberty Tree wrote:
Why was he here? Wasn't it Saudi air students who flew into the twin towers?

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Dec 7, 2019 00:06:48   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Good suggestion! -

but a liberal regional Federal judge would shoot that down overnight.


Peewee wrote:
I think the Muslim Brotherhood is behind most of this crap and they should begin to be weeded out. Wh**ever it takes. Or cut off all travel of Muslims into the US wherever the terrorist originates from, for one year.

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Dec 7, 2019 00:36:01   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Zemirah wrote:
Good suggestion! -

but a liberal regional Federal judge would shoot that down overnight.


Right now, but Trump is changing the makeup of our courts fast. Maybe some common sense will return soon.

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Dec 7, 2019 03:39:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Peewee wrote:
Or cut off all travel of Muslims into the US wherever the terrorist originates from, for one year.


Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews and Christians? There have been terrorist organizations connected to all major faiths...

What if the Muslim terrorist came from a majority Christian nation?

Or if he was radicalized from within the US?

What if he was a wanted fugitive in his country of origin?

Or if he had dual citizenship? Would both nations be penalized?

Sorry Peewee... I agree that the ME is a mess and that we need to stop allowing folk from there to enter our nations willynilly... But I don't see this suggestion as being applicable to the issue...

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Dec 7, 2019 04:27:17   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Yes, Canuckus, and Santa Claus, or a Santa impersonator, has been known to commit a few robberies...

Run a comparison chart, percentage wise; terrorism (I'm sure you know this) is the activity of choice of Muslims, following in the footsteps of Muhammad, whom they consider to have been the perfect man.

Christian terrorists are extremely rare and far between, as I am sure you know, for they are completely turning away from Jesus' example and teachings if they do so.

The Jewish people are an ethical, self controlled, extremely well educated people. They do not commit terrorist acts, very very rare.

Any Sikh and Hindu terrorists would be far more likely to be found in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh than the U.S., and there again, cannot begin to equal the number of Muslim terrorists.

As for Buddhist terrorists, China has close to 50% of Buddhists in the world, even in Thailand, 2nd to China in percentage of Buddhists, terrorism by them is rare.

Have you had any terrorism by Buddhists in your neighborhood lately?

You cannot honestly paint terrorism among all these religions evenly and with a broad brush, It simply does not apply.

Islam's founder, Muhammad, lived by terrorism, a.k.a., theft, rape, murder. It was his profession, his career of choice.

That is not true of any other group you have named.


Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews and Christians? There have been terrorist organizations connected to all major faiths...

What if the Muslim terrorist came from a majority Christian nation?

Or if he was radicalized from within the US?

What if he was a wanted fugitive in his country of origin?

Or if he had dual citizenship? Would both nations be penalized?

Sorry Peewee... I agree that the ME is a mess and that we need to stop allowing folk from there to enter our nations willynilly... But I don't see this suggestion as being applicable to the issue...
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, ... (show quote)

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Dec 7, 2019 04:36:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
Yes, Canuckus, and Santa Claus, or a Santa impersonator, has been known to commit a few robberies...

Run a comparison chart, percentage wise; terrorism (I'm sure you know this) is the activity of choice of Muslims, following in the footsteps of Muhammad, whom they consider to have been the perfect man.

Christian terrorists are extremely rare and far between, as I am sure you know, for they are completely turning away from Jesus' example and teachings if they do so.

The Jewish people are an ethical, self controlled, extremely well educated people. They do not commit terrorist acts, very very rare.

Any Sikh and Hindu terrorists would be far more likely to be found in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh than the U.S., and there again, cannot begin to equal the number of Muslim terrorists.

As for Buddhist terrorists, China has close to 50% of Buddhists in the world, even in Thailand, 2nd to China in percentage of Buddhists, terrorism by them is rare.

Have you had any terrorism by Buddhists in your neighborhood lately?

You cannot honestly paint terrorism among all these religions evenly and with a broad brush, It simply does not apply.

Islam's founder, Muhammad, lived by terrorism, a.k.a., theft, rape, murder. It was his profession, his career of choice.

That is not true of any other group you have named.
Yes, Canuckus, and Santa Claus, or a Santa imperso... (show quote)


Got anything for the other four?

Or just more vitriol for Muslims?

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Dec 7, 2019 05:37:09   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews and Christians? There have been terrorist organizations connected to all major faiths...

What if the Muslim terrorist came from a majority Christian nation?

Or if he was radicalized from within the US?

What if he was a wanted fugitive in his country of origin?

Or if he had dual citizenship? Would both nations be penalized?

Sorry Peewee... I agree that the ME is a mess and that we need to stop allowing folk from there to enter our nations willynilly... But I don't see this suggestion as being applicable to the issue...
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, ... (show quote)


Muslims are the ones k*****g people, duh.

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Dec 7, 2019 06:47:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Peewee wrote:
Muslims are the ones k*****g people, duh.


Why does no one want to address the other points I made?

Back when the IRA was operative, would you have been for banning Irish Catholics from entering the US?

How about present day Buddhists from Burma?

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Dec 7, 2019 06:55:15   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Why does no one want to address the other points I made?

Back when the IRA was operative, would you have been for banning Irish Catholics from entering the US?

How about present day Buddhists from Burma?


The point was made they are turning completely away from Jesus’s teachings if they do that. Muslims are following Mohammed’s example.

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Dec 7, 2019 07:42:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
The point was made they are turning completely away from Jesus’s teachings if they do that. Muslims are following Mohammed’s example.


Actually Muslim terrorists aren't following Mohammed's example...

But that is obviously lost on some...

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Dec 7, 2019 08:49:14   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews and Christians? There have been terrorist organizations connected to all major faiths...

What if the Muslim terrorist came from a majority Christian nation?

Or if he was radicalized from within the US?

What if he was a wanted fugitive in his country of origin?

Or if he had dual citizenship? Would both nations be penalized?

Sorry Peewee... I agree that the ME is a mess and that we need to stop allowing folk from there to enter our nations willynilly... But I don't see this suggestion as being applicable to the issue...
Only Muslim terrorists? What about Sihks, Hindus, ... (show quote)


The Muslims are a tough act to follow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

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