nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Kevyn

Ukraine was occupied by Russians during soviet times if they wish to move to Russia they may but they have no more right to become part of Russia than people in Texas have to become part of Mexico.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Says who? It's been their home for many years now. Most were born there. Times change and they have the right to adjust their world. A bigger question is why does western Ukraine not want to let them stay a part of Russia if the majority of them want to?

Putin could have retaken the entire country if he chose to but didn't and hasn't.

woodguru

Putin has encountered fierce objections from the US and NATO, including economic sanctions that have strangled Russia's economy. He is actively showing more aggression because Trump is allowing it, and withholding military aid to the Ukraine is a big part of that. Trump is very unsupportive of the Ukraine because he rather openly supports Putin and wh**ever he wants to do. Trump has left several aggressions by Putin unanswered.

The Ukraine has e******ns and they are free to voice their opinions at the b****t box if the east indeed wants to become a part of Russia, meanwhile the Ukrainian government is objecting to Russian control that is actually about resources and control of them. It's hard to tell what Ukrainians actually want when Russia has been fueling military actions. It's a given that Putin wants control of regions and he has already taken some.

The Ukraine gets to say and we are backing them, if those living in the east want to become part of Russia they can fight their own battles within the Ukraine, Russia can't attack them and make it a matter of taking control. We have determined that it is in our national interest to help defend the Ukraine against Russia, and it is not Trump's position to make decisions to the contrary unless he does them through open channels legally.

woodguru

Your position here does not reflect the fact that not all Ukrainians "want" to be a part of Russia, Russia wants them to be a part of Russia, huge difference. Russia wants the real estate and resources.

This would be like Mexico wanting southern texas for the oil wells and refineries, and sending mercenaries in to fight texans on behalf of the mexicans who live in southern texas, and saying texans "want" to be part of mexico. The texas government would have something to say, wouldn't you agree?

And I'm pretty sure that if mexico were amassing tanks for an assault on southern texas, the house and senate would authorize federal military support, and would imagine if Trump chose to support the president of mexico and withhold weapons that would be used against mexican tanks people would have a problem.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Wouldn't happen. Just about everyone in Texas owns at least one of those assault rifles you want to ban.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It is none of NATO or the Us business. The incursion has stopped and Russia is simply doing what they are being asked by Russians to do as they were in Crimea and Georgia. There will be a referendum eventually just like in Crimeaa and they will make known their preference.

And how is backing Ukraine in our National Interest? And by the way, the delay in the military aid made not a single difference. Your comment in that regard is totally inaccurate and an out and out lie by those promulgating the notion.

Kevyn

And we could invade and occupy Canada. What the hell is wrong with people that they support a murderous dictator like Putin attacking and invading one of our peaceful allies. What we ought to do is admit Ukraine to NATO and pack their border with Patriot missile batteries and their airfields with A-10 warthogs.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The 'Ukrainians" in the eastern Ukraine are Russian nationals living there for over 50 years; most born there. Russia doesn't need the real estate but for access to their naval port in Crimea. It is vital to their security; thus why there are so many Russian national in the region for so long as it was just as important to the USSR.

Your analogy is a joke and of no comparative value. The situation in Ukraine/Russia is WAY different.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The eastern part of the country doesn't want any part of NATO OR the EU. The eastern section has declared independence and Russia is providing support for that. A-10's are obsolete, by the way.

woodguru

You can't understand a metaphor, that it isn't Ukrainians fighting for becoming part of russia, it's russia fighting to take it and make it part of russia, big difference

dongreen76

....for the same reasons most Americans should not subscribe to nationalism,nor white nationalism,or f*****ts like agendas like genocidal processes that are being perpetrated against certain sects of the American society.(I ain't designating no specifics.) ;because ,it is contrary to everything this country has fought for, and a lot of people have died for-even in its conception.
Including a civil war,then again in world war two, also the wars that are strongly related to the same Ideols and principles that was and are fought to maintain a balance and advantage of free countries over Russian and eastern Ukrainian recently Independent countries.Specifically the Korean war,and Vietnam war,in which heavy casualties were sustained.To totally disregard, by asking why should we care about Eastern
Ukraine joining Russia is to disavow all those Americans that you profess to honor and appreciate (the Military) would be hypocracy in its ultimate-furthermore you would and could not continue to claim you are proud to be American while disavowing the concepts that Identifies and distinguishes America for whom it is.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Ha, there ya go!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Actually, it is Russians, the majority in eastern Ukraine, who are fighting to be in Russia.

Kevyn

They work wonders against tanks and hellfire missiles.