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Dec 3, 2019 12:32:58   #
kemmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
Gee, you mean it went down from an all time high. You really are dumb. I’d like to ban trade with China. How’s that idea suit you?

Hahahahaha.....
Sure, it’d be fun to watch all the national chain stores go bankrupt.

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Dec 3, 2019 13:40:11   #
Godsncotrl
 
https://youtu.be/0SAjwF3F-4k

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Dec 3, 2019 13:59:26   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all?fbclid=IwAR2jocxUFX_GGpNta7c74iOMZG7GFSc5jV989emmMiq4tfVw2A_ZI_u3vR4

ast October, the New York Times published a monumental exposé of how Donald Trump and other members of the Trump family engaged in sham financial schemes during the nineteen-nineties, including what the newspaper described as “instances of outright fraud,” to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real-estate fortune that Fred Trump passed on to his children. Last month, the three reporters who wrote the story—David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner—were awarded the Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting.

On Tuesday evening, the Times dropped another story that delved into the President’s financial past. Written by Buettner and Craig, and based upon “printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service transcripts” that the reporters obtained, the story further undermined the assiduously promoted fiction that Trump, before he became a reality-television star and entered politics, was a highly successful self-made businessman. He was anything but.

Between 1985 and 1994, the Times story says, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.”

In case you didn’t take all that in, here is a quick recap: when Trump was portraying himself as a newly minted billionaire and financial genius, his core businesses were losing money hand over fist. Assuming the Times reporters’ analysis of the I.R.S. data on high earners is accurate—and there is no apparent reason to doubt it—he was the biggest loser in the country for two years in a row.

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Hey permie, can't you come up with something more recent that 35 years ago to diss Trump? How about talking about his record as President? Isn't that what we should be focused on? Why would any right thinking person ignore what Trump's done as President and focus only on stuff decades before he ever got into politics.
Things like the economy, level of unemployment, amount of take home pay, border security, national security, judicial appointments, trade deals, etc.
You're not gonna persuade anyone to v**e against Trump by d**gging out questionable stuff which dates back 30+ years.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:37:40   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump hasn’t read the Constitution and doesn’t know or care what it says.


You should add this comment to all your posts "in my opinion". Many of us don't share your opinion.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:52:14   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
Lou,,,

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all?fbclid=IwAR2jocxUFX_GGpNta7c74iOMZG7GFSc5jV989emmMiq4tfVw2A_ZI_u3vR4

As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All

ast October, the New York Times published a monumental exposé of how Donald Trump and other members of the Trump family engaged in sham financial schemes during the nineteen-nineties, including what the newspaper described as “instances of outright fraud,” to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real-estate fortune that Fred Trump passed on to his children. Last month, the three reporters who wrote the story—David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner—were awarded the Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting.

On Tuesday evening, the Times dropped another story that delved into the President’s financial past. Written by Buettner and Craig, and based upon “printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service transcripts” that the reporters obtained, the story further undermined the assiduously promoted fiction that Trump, before he became a reality-television star and entered politics, was a highly successful self-made businessman. He was anything but.

Just like his money, trump had nothing to do with making the economy we now have. It is the extension of the 7 years of growth under the President Obama administration.

He made himself and the ultra rich a mountain of money.. now it is near its end and the rest of America may end up paying for the gift.. Just like we pay for the tariffs which he loves to think worked.
ask farmers how things are going for most of them..

https://time.com/5736789/small-american-farmers-debt-crisis-extinction/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_term=business_&linkId=77820351&fbclid=IwAR1ZiwWjTHf9ZGxNVF1pN2WFV8a7zi37psw25oY5KUOoeFUbb_AJZwe4FOg

They're Trying to Wipe Us Off the Map.' Small American Farmers Are Nearing Extinction

In the American imagination, at least, the family farm still exists as it does on holiday greeting cards: as a picturesque, modestly prosperous expanse that wholesomely fills the space between the urban centers where most of us live. But it has been declining for generations, and the closing days of 2019 find small farms pummeled from every side: a trade war, severe weather associated with c*****e c****e, tanking commodity prices related to globalization, political polarization, and corporate farming defined not by a silo and a red barn but technology and the efficiencies of scale. It is the worst crisis in decades. Chapter 12 farm bankruptcies were up 12 percent in the Midwest from July of 2018 to June of 2019; they’re up 50 percent in the Northwest. Tens of thousands have simply stopped farming, knowing that reorganization through bankruptcy won’t save them. The nation lost more than 100,000 farms between 2011 and 2018; 12,000 of those between 2017 and 2018 alone.
Lou,,, br br https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c... (show quote)


That last little fact really shows how wrong you are. Trump's economy lost 6,000 farms per year and the Obama administration lost 88,000 in six years. That is an amassing approx. 14,666.666 more per year. Then you had the gall to say, Trump caused more farms to go broke than Obama. Your math isn't very good. It seems you need a new calculator or just don't realize that facts before you.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:58:18   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all?fbclid=IwAR2jocxUFX_GGpNta7c74iOMZG7GFSc5jV989emmMiq4tfVw2A_ZI_u3vR4

ast October, the New York Times published a monumental exposé of how Donald Trump and other members of the Trump family engaged in sham financial schemes during the nineteen-nineties, including what the newspaper described as “instances of outright fraud,” to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real-estate fortune that Fred Trump passed on to his children. Last month, the three reporters who wrote the story—David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner—were awarded the Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting.

On Tuesday evening, the Times dropped another story that delved into the President’s financial past. Written by Buettner and Craig, and based upon “printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service transcripts” that the reporters obtained, the story further undermined the assiduously promoted fiction that Trump, before he became a reality-television star and entered politics, was a highly successful self-made businessman. He was anything but.

Between 1985 and 1994, the Times story says, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.”

In case you didn’t take all that in, here is a quick recap: when Trump was portraying himself as a newly minted billionaire and financial genius, his core businesses were losing money hand over fist. Assuming the Times reporters’ analysis of the I.R.S. data on high earners is accurate—and there is no apparent reason to doubt it—he was the biggest loser in the country for two years in a row.

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As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of A... (show quote)


And he is so unsuccessful! LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jealous!

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Dec 3, 2019 15:02:59   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee Hug, the New York Times is one of the worlds most respected newspapers..

You can try but you will not find a better source..


Than the times. It used to be good. In the 50s. Since it's stance on "there was no holocaust" and g****l w*****g they changed it since to C*****e c****e is an existential threat" people laugh at it now. A better source, The Hill, Wall Street Journal, Washington Times.

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Dec 3, 2019 15:44:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Louie27 wrote:
That last little fact really shows how wrong you are. Trump's economy lost 6,000 farms per year and the Obama administration lost 88,000 in six years. That is an amassing approx. 14,666.666 more per year. Then you had the gall to say, Trump caused more farms to go broke than Obama. Your math isn't very good. It seems you need a new calculator or just don't realize that facts before you.



Simple question for you lou, which is worse, losing 14,666 farms per year during the most severe recession in 70 years or losing 6,000 per year when the economy is as you say wonderful???

Only the most irresponsible and ignorant could accomplish letting that happen in a time of plenty..

But it has been done before.. In the 80s, Ronnie came up with the "freedom to farm" which made access to money the single biggest factor in farming and all time record of family farms going bust..

If you are going to whine about any subject you best know the differing circumstances, other wise you are
only comparing apples to oranges..



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Dec 3, 2019 15:50:12   #
Blackie
 
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!

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Dec 3, 2019 16:06:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Hey permie, can't you come up with something more recent that 35 years ago to diss Trump? How about talking about his record as President? Isn't that what we should be focused on? Why would any right thinking person ignore what Trump's done as President and focus only on stuff decades before he ever got into politics.
Things like the economy, level of unemployment, amount of take home pay, border security, national security, judicial appointments, trade deals, etc.
You're not gonna persuade anyone to v**e against Trump by d**gging out questionable stuff which dates back 30+ years.
Hey permie, can't you come up with something more ... (show quote)



Gee walt, were the 90s 35 years ago? Wow, time does fly..

What trump has done as president?

Are you kidding, you really want to go with that question???

OK...

Let see, on a personal basis, in his first spending bill he ended my supplemental medicare insurance.
the replacement was twice the price to the dollar and that did not include drug coverage..

Now for other people..

His tax gift to the rich, was used not for investment but for stock buy backs and bonus, drove the stock market to its current level but is now about gone with no lasting result.. but it all made trump and the ultra rich even richer. now the rest of American will begin paying for that in 2021.. notice anything about the timeline of the need to pay deadline??

He removed the US from a nuclear agreement which all involved declared was working.
He gave Kim of NK, the international recognition that he and his family had been seeking for decades and in return he gave nothing at all.

He support the Saudi prince over a murder of a US journalist..

He cut funding for child health care.

He started a trade war which will cost Americans millions.

He has gutted the EPA to a joke of useless orange support.

He has cost farmers/ag industry market that took decades to form and which may never come back to them.

He openly supports h**e groups like the ones who murdered the counter demonstrator in charlottesville.

He has upset the military justice system by pardoning some found guilty of war crimes and murder..

He has weakened the effectiveness of NATO while championing the dictators like Kim of NK, China, Philippians.

He has given away our role as world leader to China without a protest.

He removed us from the fight on CC and refused to address new industry and technology.

He championed a return to coal while markets and the world embraced bio fuel and renewable s.

His obvious butt kissing of Putin made this nation the laughing stock of the world..

Gotta stop for now , but more , much more if you wish.. later..



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Dec 3, 2019 16:07:27   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
permafrost wrote:
As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all?fbclid=IwAR2jocxUFX_GGpNta7c74iOMZG7GFSc5jV989emmMiq4tfVw2A_ZI_u3vR4

ast October, the New York Times published a monumental exposé of how Donald Trump and other members of the Trump family engaged in sham financial schemes during the nineteen-nineties, including what the newspaper described as “instances of outright fraud,” to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real-estate fortune that Fred Trump passed on to his children. Last month, the three reporters who wrote the story—David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner—were awarded the Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting.

On Tuesday evening, the Times dropped another story that delved into the President’s financial past. Written by Buettner and Craig, and based upon “printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service transcripts” that the reporters obtained, the story further undermined the assiduously promoted fiction that Trump, before he became a reality-television star and entered politics, was a highly successful self-made businessman. He was anything but.

Between 1985 and 1994, the Times story says, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.”

In case you didn’t take all that in, here is a quick recap: when Trump was portraying himself as a newly minted billionaire and financial genius, his core businesses were losing money hand over fist. Assuming the Times reporters’ analysis of the I.R.S. data on high earners is accurate—and there is no apparent reason to doubt it—he was the biggest loser in the country for two years in a row.

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As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of A... (show quote)


I'm sure the Kushner family agrees with you.
Come on man, since when would a billionaire Jewish boy be allowed to marry into a family of total putzes and failures. The life long Democratic donor family that did deals with Soros and co. suddenly switched sides...wonder why..because Trump is a stupid failure? I'm not buying.

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Dec 3, 2019 16:10:09   #
Godsncotrl
 
This by no means was posted to persuade anyone agianst Trump but for Trump pay attention

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Dec 3, 2019 17:21:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Simple question for you lou, which is worse, losing 14,666 farms per year during the most severe recession in 70 years or losing 6,000 per year when the economy is as you say wonderful???

Only the most irresponsible and ignorant could accomplish letting that happen in a time of plenty..

But it has been done before.. In the 80s, Ronnie came up with the "freedom to farm" which made access to money the single biggest factor in farming and all time record of family farms going bust..

If you are going to whine about any subject you best know the differing circumstances, other wise you are
only comparing apples to oranges..
Simple question for you lou, which is worse, losin... (show quote)


Farming is recession proof. Duh!

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Dec 3, 2019 17:22:50   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahahaha.....
Sure, it’d be fun to watch all the national chain stores go bankrupt.


To tell the t***h Kemmer it really would. I'm not a big fan of big chains, Wall Street etc.

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Dec 3, 2019 17:31:22   #
Hug
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump became president because he said he was going to fix an ineffective Congress, and despite all evidence that Trump was nothing but a liar and charlatan, the fools elected him. America is now paying the price for the Trump disaster.


What is the price?

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