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Dec 2, 2019 16:35:50   #
useful mattoid 45
 
drlarrygino wrote:
My vote is solely for Trump. He is doing a bang up job and that is why the demorats are furious and will try to use any false accusations to try and take him down. It won't work. Light overcomes the dark and Trump has exposed the darkness of the demorat party and corrupt media.


Drlarrygino, a vote for drumph is a vote for vladimir. Way to stay true to your country!

Not!!

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Dec 2, 2019 16:47:47   #
77Reaganite Loc: Snellville Georgia
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Drlarrygino, a vote for drumph is a vote for vladimir. Way to stay true to your country!

Not!!


You have that Twisted I vote for a Democrat would be a vote for the Kremlin because we know that's who they take their order from they damn sure don't take the orders from American citizens cuz they despises so go ahead with your pipe dream of thinking that work in collusion with the Russians you know that backfired in your face right you do know that there was no Russian collusion that's just a delusion on your end and if you have delusions my friend you might want to go and check yourself into an insane asylum and get you a 6 by 9 padded room so you can help yourself with that Trump derangement syndrome that you got cuz you got it bad orange man bad let's impeach LOL crock of s***!

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Dec 2, 2019 16:56:41   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Airforceone wrote:
I would like to issue a challenge to anybody in the GOP/House Republicans/ Senate Republicans/Trump cabinet/Trump advisors anybody associated with Trump that is willing to go to congress raise your right hand and testify under oath as to the innocence of Donald Trump, and it was the Ukrainians that hacked our election and not Russia.

(ALL I WANT IS ONE JUST ONE)


I issue a challenge to Democrats;
What is not wrong with this;
Bidens and Ukraine corruption:

Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Politico 08/16/2017: Ukrainian MP seeks probe of Ukraine-Clinton ties
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/ukraine-andrei-derkach-clinton-investigation-241704

Ukraine Tried to Tip the Election in Clinton’s Favor
https://observer.com/2017/01/ukraine-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-election/


Alleged election meddling by Ukraine: inquiry to Justice Dept. went unanswered
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/09/alleged-election-meddling-by-ukraine-inquiry-to-justice-dept-went-unanswered/

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Dec 2, 2019 17:10:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Woody as I just told AF1 the DNC refused to turn their computers over to the fbi (too much kiddee porn from Podesta?) had they you'd know for sure this way you only have speculation. The RNC has fbi proof.




Rob,, this is old stuff, but the server (computer) is very seldom turned over to the law for hacking cases...

https://www.axios.com/why-trumps-wheres-the-server-is-the-wrong-question-30a4c97c-2822-47b3-b939-1fc2a7490d99.html


Independent investigations are common: According to the law firm BakerHostetler, well over half of the organizations it advises seek out private investigators to investigate hacks. It’s increasingly common for those investigators to handle the low-level forensic work in place of the FBI.

Leo Taddeo, former special agent in charge of the cyber division of the FBI’s New York office, told The Hill: "In nine out of 10 cases, we don't need access, we don't ask for access, we don't get access. That's the normal [procedure]. It's extraordinarily rare for the FBI to get access to the victim's infrastructure because we could mess it up," he added. "We usually ask for the logs and images, and 99 out of a hundred times, that's sufficient.”
Beyond the potential for damage, seizing a server can revictimize an organization after a hack. Losing a server can disrupt or even shut down a business or organization.
Law enforcement is often happy to let private investigators take on the initial phase of investigative work because it saves time and money.
Another problem with handing over a server: If the FBI mishandles data or, say, leaks it to the press or a political partisan, the organization places itself in jeopardy.

The server is now just a small part of the evidence: One thing clear from the most recent indictment is that the FBI has now amassed significant additional evidence beyond what Crowdstrike could have obtained in its own investigation.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:14:09   #
77Reaganite Loc: Snellville Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
Rob,, this is old stuff, but the server (computer) is very seldom turned over to the law for hacking cases...

https://www.axios.com/why-trumps-wheres-the-server-is-the-wrong-question-30a4c97c-2822-47b3-b939-1fc2a7490d99.html


Independent investigations are common: According to the law firm BakerHostetler, well over half of the organizations it advises seek out private investigators to investigate hacks. It’s increasingly common for those investigators to handle the low-level forensic work in place of the FBI.

Leo Taddeo, former special agent in charge of the cyber division of the FBI’s New York office, told The Hill: "In nine out of 10 cases, we don't need access, we don't ask for access, we don't get access. That's the normal [procedure]. It's extraordinarily rare for the FBI to get access to the victim's infrastructure because we could mess it up," he added. "We usually ask for the logs and images, and 99 out of a hundred times, that's sufficient.”
Beyond the potential for damage, seizing a server can revictimize an organization after a hack. Losing a server can disrupt or even shut down a business or organization.
Law enforcement is often happy to let private investigators take on the initial phase of investigative work because it saves time and money.
Another problem with handing over a server: If the FBI mishandles data or, say, leaks it to the press or a political partisan, the organization places itself in jeopardy.

The server is now just a small part of the evidence: One thing clear from the most recent indictment is that the FBI has now amassed significant additional evidence beyond what Crowdstrike could have obtained in its own investigation.
Rob,, this is old stuff, but the server (computer)... (show quote)


Stop trying to pettifog the issue man the Dems were told to turn the server over and they didn't all right that right there is obstruction of justice Point Blank you know what y'all accused President Trump of so don't sit here and give me you're a liberal talking points your complete and utter bulshit when the FBI tells you to give over your server and you don't you should be arrested right there on the spot because if you're not hiding anything then why won't you give it up we know why because there's more than just progesterone there with his pedophile freaking Kitty p*** there's high-ranking officials on there with the same stuff and they're probably the ones setting up this whole charade as we know it it doesn't take too much to the deuce from logic to know when we're being lied to and the Democrats have been lying the whole time to try to cover up for Hillary because I know Hillary would definitely go to prison for the rest of her life because of what's on those email servers screw that how we start putting these people in jail that don't want to comply with law

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Dec 2, 2019 17:14:14   #
useful mattoid 45
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I issue a challenge to Democrats;
What is not wrong with this;
Bidens and Ukraine corruption:

Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Politico 08/16/2017: Ukrainian MP seeks probe of Ukraine-Clinton ties
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/ukraine-andrei-derkach-clinton-investigation-241704

Ukraine Tried to Tip the Election in Clinton’s Favor
https://observer.com/2017/01/ukraine-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-election/


Alleged election meddling by Ukraine: inquiry to Justice Dept. went unanswered
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/09/alleged-election-meddling-by-ukraine-inquiry-to-justice-dept-went-unanswered/
I issue a challenge to Democrats; br What is not w... (show quote)


Your first link proves the point. Ukraine didn't interfere, Russia did. And the gop is twisting in pretzels to try to change that fact. Sorry. Facts don't change.

Thanks for the links. You should read them.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:19:36   #
77Reaganite Loc: Snellville Georgia
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Your first link proves the point. Ukraine didn't interfere, Russia did. And the gop is twisting in pretzels to try to change that fact. Sorry. Facts don't change.

Thanks for the links. You should read them.



Challenge to anyone in the Democratic party who claims that Donald Trump colluded with Russia or had a quid pro quo with the Ukraine where's your evidence bring it forth you know why you can't bring it forth cuz there isn't none because it was all made up charges y'all been planning this out since November 9th 2016 but it's blowing up in your faces and come November 9th when the IG report comes out you won't have to worry about impeachment anymore they'll be a new I word and it's called indictments indictments for Clapper Brennan Comey McCabe struck page Sally Yates Loretta Lynch in the list goes on Nellie and Bruce Ohr forgot about them and the rest of the people who were behind this coup and it was a coup it was a Bolshevik style take over of a president that's all it was too bad you didn't get what you wanted what Hillary promised you when I guess you forgot this is the hundred year anniversary of the Bolshevik party in the former Soviet Union yeah we know you use your tactics because you get your freaking talking points from the Kremlin everyday y'all are the Russian agents Kohl's most of y'all in the 1950s were part of the Communist party and still are but your style of McCarthyism isn't working because Americans aren't falling for the banana in the tailpipe anymore and they're not listening to the boys who cry wolf so much those days are over with and your mouthpiece the media doesn't help you out at all in fact they're hurting your chances of getting reelected in fact they're going to all but make sure that President Trump gets re-elected because every last one of you got Trump derangement syndrome you know what my solution for you is check yourself into an insane asylum get a 6 by 9 padded room and that's where you belong because Trump is in your head he's kicking your ass all over the place and y'all can't stomach it because y'all can't handle not having power or control so go ahead and take that pipe smoke it there hippies God is going to be so great when y'all get your comeuppance on December 9th

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Dec 2, 2019 18:02:20   #
Louis
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Perjury is wrong! Is this why drumph won't testify, comrade polans? What did he and putin talk about in their private meetings? Will he answer that?



Since you were there, why don’t you tell us exactly what he said. I get the biggest kick out of you democrats. Not one of you know a damn thing of what your talking about, but you get on here and are happy to tell us all about what you think you know anyway. Where is your proof? Oh wait, you have none!

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Dec 2, 2019 18:10:30   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Your first link proves the point. Ukraine didn't interfere, Russia did.
Thanks for the links. You should read them.


"]Your first link proves the point. Ukraine didn't interfere, Russia did." - useful mattoid 45

BINGO
Russia was working to undermine Trump, and boost Hillary.

Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
Just did useful mattoid. You lack in your reading comprehension skill.
some text:

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
**Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

***Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office.
They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect.
***** And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.

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Dec 2, 2019 18:12:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Drlarrygino, a vote for drumph is a vote for vladimir. Way to stay true to your country!

Not!!


You really are a useful mattoid.

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Dec 2, 2019 19:32:15   #
jelun
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
lol no voter fraud is funny to me, I'm the one who found a few mailbags of absentee ballots in the woods, and this was only in Chillicothe, Ohio so imagine the bigger cities. On that issue during Roy Moore's campaign (was he squeaky clean? He was in politics too long so I don't think so but the poundMeToo girls didn't help) anyway, some who came in from out of state and voted a couple of times said, "Our boy won, fair and square." Oh they were dems.


miss pennylynn hasn't changed a bit, has she?

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Dec 2, 2019 20:14:39   #
Edulm1038
 
Specifically, Trump is guilty of what crimes?

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Dec 2, 2019 20:18:48   #
America 1
 
Airforceone wrote:
Answer the question where are Trumps defenders. Damm all he does is use tweeter get in there and testify under oath.

Look you people have to understand Trump controls the DOJ with William Barr. If any of those career officials who sacrificed there careers to testify under oath were lying then any republican can defer this to the DOJ for prosecutions for lying to Congress so where is it . What is it with you people and can’t you understand what is happening here.

Nobody is testifing in defense of Trump nobody. What part of nobody don’t you understand.
Answer the question where are Trumps defenders. Da... (show quote)


Understand completely who is the nobody, understand!

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Dec 2, 2019 20:58:25   #
byronglimish Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
How about Mulvaney or Giuliani or maybe Pompeo what is it with the Republican Party not one witness is willing to raise there right hand and testify but they have been all over the Sunday talk shows advancing Russian propaganda.

Sorry Archie you made a fool of yourself again.

So give me a name


Give yourself a name.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:42:47   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
steve66613 wrote:
Send me a plane ticket and a pass into the Congressional chambers......I promise to testify that POTUS Trump is innocent and Bull Biden, and his worthless spawn, are guilty of fraud and racketeering!

Might add that several ambassadors (Obama holdovers) and their staffs are culpable in the corruption schemes as well.


I'll go to if you charge Schiff/Pelosi/Schummer and all the rest with trying to overthrow the rightful and innocent president

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