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Dec 2, 2019 16:00:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Singularity wrote:
I'm not sure you CHECKED any of the links for fact checking. Your only rebuttal seems to be, "Really?" and some scattered, muttered alternate claims, without factual rebuttal. If Joe Biden claimed something probative, provide the tape or transcript so we can be sure what he actually said!

In short, this matter is a side topic here. I've provided facts and narrative as well as links to the supporting evidence.

You are unhappy about associating with three capital letters (CNN) and thus unwilling to look further and validate or properly defend an alternative with anything but vaguely discontented grunting.

Why not do it in another thread of your own. Here, it is an off topic rabbit hole, without substance on your part, most likely designed to derail from the present topic.

Which was my claim in the first place.

I'm not too lazy to do the work for you, I just don't see how it would benefit a mind so closed to examining it.
I'm not sure you CHECKED any of the links for fact... (show quote)
Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Politico 08/16/2017: Ukrainian MP seeks probe of Ukraine-Clinton ties

Ukraine Tried to Tip the E******n in Clinton’s Favor

Ukraine 'alignment' with Hillary Clinton began in 2013: Politico flashback, 2017

Alleged e******n meddling by Ukraine: inquiry to Justice Dept. went unanswered

Media Acknowledged Ukrainian E******n Meddling Until It Hurt Their Impeachment Efforts

Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence

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Dec 2, 2019 16:18:15   #
Singularity
 


Use your words. What are you trying to communicate here? I can see you know how to select and post links. I'm not clicking or reading them if you aren't additionally contributing original thoughts of your own to the conversation for which you brlieve they supply further substance.

You guys throw around links without point or substance or stated relevance to the topic to derail discussion.

Just proved it again with your inability to stay on topic.

This Gish Gallup of links, without point or narrative to relate to the present conversation, is another example.

Again, it is apparent your efforts are exclusively designed to obfuscate and confuse, rather than elucidate or educate.

Prove me wrong.

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Dec 2, 2019 16:23:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
Use your words. What are you trying to communicate here? I can see you know how to select and post links. I'm not clicking or reading them if you aren't additionally contributing original thoughts of your own to the conversation for which you brlieve they supply further substance.

You guys throw around links without point or substance or stated relevance to the topic to derail discussion.

Just proved it again with your inability to stay on topic.

This Gish Gallup of links, without point or narrative to relate to the present conversation, is another example.

Again, it is apparent your efforts are exclusively designed to obfuscate and confuse, rather than elucidate or educate.

Prove me wrong.
Use your words. What are you trying to communicate... (show quote)


Lets give it another try!

Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Politico 08/16/2017: Ukrainian MP seeks probe of Ukraine-Clinton ties
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/ukraine-andrei-derkach-clinton-investigation-241704


Ukraine Tried to Tip the E******n in Clinton’s Favor
https://observer.com/2017/01/ukraine-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-e******n/


Ukraine 'alignment' with Hillary Clinton began in 2013: Politico flashback, 2017
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/10/ukraine-alignment-hillary-clinton-began-2013-polit/


Alleged e******n meddling by Ukraine: inquiry to Justice Dept. went unanswered
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/09/alleged-e******n-meddling-by-ukraine-inquiry-to-justice-dept-went-unanswered/

Media Acknowledged Ukrainian E******n Meddling Until It Hurt Their Impeachment Efforts
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/21/media-acknowledged-ukrainian-e******n-meddling-until-it-hurt-their-impeachment-efforts/

Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence
https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-biden-obama-officials-influenced-ukraine-to-advance-own-interests_2896259.html

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Dec 2, 2019 16:37:38   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
Use your words. What are you trying to communicate here? I can see you know how to select and post links. I'm not clicking or reading them if you aren't additionally contributing original thoughts of your own to the conversation for which you brlieve they supply further substance.

You guys throw around links without point or substance or stated relevance to the topic to derail discussion.

Just proved it again with your inability to stay on topic.

This Gish Gallup of links, without point or narrative to relate to the present conversation, is another example.

Again, it is apparent your efforts are exclusively designed to obfuscate and confuse, rather than elucidate or educate.

Prove me wrong.
Use your words. What are you trying to communicate... (show quote)


I am here to educate others, Singular.
Thanks for the opportunity.

BTW; these links are compliments of Blade_Runner

AND!!!!
I like them.
AND
They are saved for future reference.

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Dec 2, 2019 18:52:43   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Lets give it another try!

Politico: 1/11/2017: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Politico 08/16/2017: Ukrainian MP seeks probe of Ukraine-Clinton ties
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/ukraine-andrei-derkach-clinton-investigation-241704


Ukraine Tried to Tip the E******n in Clinton’s Favor
https://observer.com/2017/01/ukraine-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-e******n/


Ukraine 'alignment' with Hillary Clinton began in 2013: Politico flashback, 2017
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/10/ukraine-alignment-hillary-clinton-began-2013-polit/


Alleged e******n meddling by Ukraine: inquiry to Justice Dept. went unanswered
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/09/alleged-e******n-meddling-by-ukraine-inquiry-to-justice-dept-went-unanswered/

Media Acknowledged Ukrainian E******n Meddling Until It Hurt Their Impeachment Efforts
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/21/media-acknowledged-ukrainian-e******n-meddling-until-it-hurt-their-impeachment-efforts/

Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence
https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-biden-obama-officials-influenced-ukraine-to-advance-own-interests_2896259.html
Lets give it another try! br br Politico: 1/11/20... (show quote)


Essentially, you started by diverting from Trump's authoritarianism to Trump's corruption, which you deny happened and it didn't matter anyway?

And you want a blow by blow account from me of how Trump's corrupt actions are different from the Biden stuff that you say is equally corrupt and just like what Trump did, wh**ever that was, but there wasn't anything wrong with it when Trump did it?!?

I'm dizzy! Is this what being a conservative is like!?

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Dec 2, 2019 19:52:34   #
PeterS
 

Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary when Obama is the one who wouldn't give them the weapons they needed.

Blade, do you ever ask any questions yourself? Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it? Well, to you, that bit of logic was like water running off the back of a duck wasn't it. It didn't phase you a bit and you continued to believe your little conspiracy even though for it to be true Trump had to be the one behind his investigation.

So now we have another conspiracy--this one debunked by our OWN intelligence agencies and, as Feona Hill pointed out in her testimony, the conspiracy was originally started by Russia in order to deflect blame from themselves. So the irony of irony is that by accusing Ukraine you are acting as a puppet for the Russian government. Such is the problem one has when they build their life out of logical fallacies--you lose the ability to tell when you are being used!

https://apnews.com/23c9022665dc40a1a69e613459955112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/
https://apnews.com/319a1f4f835a4413b8b2914b977df7ab
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/fact-check-trump-s-false-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-debunked-ukraine-conspiracy-theory
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senator-repeats-debunked-narrative-country-meddled-2016/story?id=67439913

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Dec 2, 2019 20:27:30   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
PeterS wrote:
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary when Obama is the one who wouldn't give them the weapons they needed.

Blade, do you ever ask any questions yourself? Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it? Well, to you, that bit of logic was like water running off the back of a duck wasn't it. It didn't phase you a bit and you continued to believe your little conspiracy even though for it to be true Trump had to be the one behind his investigation.

So now we have another conspiracy--this one debunked by our OWN intelligence agencies and, as Feona Hill pointed out in her testimony, the conspiracy was originally started by Russia in order to deflect blame from themselves. So the irony of irony is that by accusing Ukraine you are acting as a puppet for the Russian government. Such is the problem one has when they build their life out of logical fallacies--you lose the ability to tell when you are being used!

https://apnews.com/23c9022665dc40a1a69e613459955112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/
https://apnews.com/319a1f4f835a4413b8b2914b977df7ab
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/fact-check-trump-s-false-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-debunked-ukraine-conspiracy-theory
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senator-repeats-debunked-narrative-country-meddled-2016/story?id=67439913
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary wh... (show quote)




More bullpeter.

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Dec 3, 2019 11:42:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary when Obama is the one who wouldn't give them the weapons they needed.

Blade, do you ever ask any questions yourself? Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it? Well, to you, that bit of logic was like water running off the back of a duck wasn't it. It didn't phase you a bit and you continued to believe your little conspiracy even though for it to be true Trump had to be the one behind his investigation.

So now we have another conspiracy--this one debunked by our OWN intelligence agencies and, as Feona Hill pointed out in her testimony, the conspiracy was originally started by Russia in order to deflect blame from themselves. So the irony of irony is that by accusing Ukraine you are acting as a puppet for the Russian government. Such is the problem one has when they build their life out of logical fallacies--you lose the ability to tell when you are being used!

https://apnews.com/23c9022665dc40a1a69e613459955112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/
https://apnews.com/319a1f4f835a4413b8b2914b977df7ab
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/fact-check-trump-s-false-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-debunked-ukraine-conspiracy-theory
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senator-repeats-debunked-narrative-country-meddled-2016/story?id=67439913
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary wh... (show quote)


Who has paid attention to what the CIA, FBI and Justice Department had been up to?
AMERICA’S CORRUPTION CLUB Let’s get back on the trail……
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/americas-corruption-club-lets-follow-the-trail/
ALL DOTS CONNECTED…Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests … Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL…
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was t***sferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in B******i and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on B******i discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were k**led by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All c*********d and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this is still not being exposed
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by l*****ts … and will convince many not paying attention that we had a soft c**p attempt.

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Dec 3, 2019 13:20:46   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Singularity wrote:
Your post was addressed as part of the group in the "what about this!?!?" onslaught. You say you really want a serious comment on your points to understand my view. Ill try to accommodate. You mostly seem to want to tease out why there are different responses to the Biden situation and the Trump crimes.

A good place to start would be to mutually endorse a shared reality. Could you outline what part of your view of reality differs from the "fact checked" reports listed here? Noticed that throughout the article there is the comment, "Full fact check here." This, in the article, gives you a clickable link to background information for that sub section.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/fact-checking-trump-ukraine-scandal-bidens/index.html

A readers' guide to fact-checking Trump's Ukraine controversy
By Daniel Dale, Tara Subramaniam and Holmes Lybrand, CNN
Updated 4:10 PM EDT, Mon October 07, 2019


Washington(CNN)President Donald Trump has made a blizzard of claims about Ukraine, China and the impeachment inquiry. Many of them have been attacks on Democrats, and many of them have been incorrect.

Here is a brief readers' guide to our fact checks on all things related to Trump's Ukraine controversy and the resulting impeachment inquiry.

This post will be updated as events unfold.


H****r B***n and the investigation
Trump has repeatedly claimed that former vice president Joe Biden had called for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was "investigating his son." There is no evidence H****r B***n was ever under investigation. The investigation was into the business dealings of the owner of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, where H****r B***n sat on the board of directors. In addition, a former Ukrainian deputy prosecutor and top anti-corruption activist have said the investigation was dormant at the time. And chief prosecutor Viktor Shokin's successor, Yuriy Lutsenko, has said in interviews this year that H****r B***n didn't violate any Ukrainian laws.

Full fact check here.

Joe Biden's pressure on Ukraine
Trump has also claimed that Biden pressured Ukraine to take chief prosecutor Viktor Shokin "off the case." Biden pressured Ukrainian leaders to fire Shokin -- the Obama administration, US allies and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists saw Shokin as unwilling to prosecute elite corruption -- but there is no public evidence that Biden sought to get Shokin removed from any particular case.

Full fact check here.

Joe Biden's boasting
Trump claimed in his July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Biden had boasted about having "stopped the prosecution." Biden had boasted about getting Shokin fired, but he did not say he had stopped any prosecution. Shokin had been controversial precisely because he was unwilling to bring corruption prosecutions.

Full fact check here.

The Bidens and China
Trump has claimed that "Joe Biden and his son walk(ed) away with millions of dollars from Ukraine and then millions of dollars from China." There is no basis for Trump's claim about Joe Biden. A company on whose board H****r B***n sat, however, received a large investment of Chinese capital shortly after H****r B***n visited the country with his father, and H****r B***n later purchased an equity stake in the company. A lawyer for H****r B***n says he has not received any return or compensation from his investment or board position.

Full fact check here.

Trump has also conflated H****r B***n's involvement in Ukraine and China. On October 4, after speaking to reporters about Biden and China, Trump said, "Now I'm hearing the number $50,000 a month." That is the approximate amount the New York Times has reported Biden was paid for his board role with Ukrainian company Burisma, not an amount related to China. Trump then claimed, seconds later, that Biden was "getting hundreds of thousands a month," a number for which there is no public evidence.

Joe Biden's previous comments
Trump said Joe Biden contradicted himself when he said in September that he had "never" spoken to his son H****r about his son's overseas business dealings; Trump claimed Joe Biden had previously said the opposite. That is not true. H****r B***n, however, did tell the New Yorker that there was one father-son conversation about his business dealings in Ukraine.

Full fact check here.

The delay in aid to Ukraine
Before he began justifying his decision to delay military aid to Ukraine, Trump told reporters that there was no delay at all -- an assertion obviously contradicted by the facts.

Trump suggested on September 23 that he froze the funds because he was worried about "corruption" and whether "that country is honest." He explicitly said on September 24 that the funds were withheld, this time claiming he was waiting for "Europe and other nations" to spend their own money on Ukraine.

A full fact check is here.

European aid to Ukraine
Trump has repeatedly claimed the US is the "only" country providing aid to Ukraine, and he has specifically accused certain European countries of doing nothing. In reality, the EU has sent several billion dollars to Ukraine over the past few years.

Full fact check here.

Obama's aid to Ukraine
Trump suggested that Barack Obama sent only "pillows and sheets" to Ukraine, not the lethal arms he has himself sent. This was hyperbole. While Trump is correct that Obama refused to provide lethal assistance, Obama did provide armored Humvees, drones, counter-mortar radar, night vision gear and medical supplies.

Full fact check here.

CrowdStrike
In his July phone call with Zelensky, Trump made vague claims about CrowdStrike -- the American cybersecurity company he has wrongly described as Ukrainian -- and "the server." These claims were confusing, but we tried to explain what he might be talking about:

In short, Trump seemed to be alluding to a baseless conspiracy theory that Russia was not responsible for hacking Democratic National Committee computer servers during the 2016 e******n. CrowdStrike, hired by the DNC to investigate the hack, had said Russia was responsible, a finding later corroborated by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has been among the people pushing a theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 e******n through "collusion" with Democrats.

Full fact check here.

The Democrats' letter to Ukraine
Trump claimed that a 2018 letter from three Democratic senators to Ukraine's prosecutor general made a threat to withdraw US assistance if Ukraine did not do what they wanted. The letter did not make a threat; it urged the prosecutor not to close investigations into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort or stop cooperating with Mueller to avoid angering Trump, as the New York Times reported had happened.

Full fact check here.

Schiff's comments
Trump criticized Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff for Schiff's comments at a House Intelligence Committee hearing with the acting DNI. In a tweet, he said Schiff's remarks were made "illegally." It is very much not illegal to do a bad paraphrase in a congressional committee meeting. The Constitution has a specific clause that lets legislators say what they want during congressional business without facing legal repercussions.

Full fact check here.

Treason
Trump called Schiff's rendition of Trump's July phone call with the President of Ukraine "treasonous" in an exchange with reporters alongside the Finnish president.

None of this is anything close to "treason," a word with an actual, narrow definition in the Constitution.

Full fact check here.

The whistleblower
Trump said the whistleblower's account of his call with Zelensky was "totally wrong." The whistleblower's three chief allegations were all correct.

Full fact check here.

Whistleblower complaint
In response to a New York Times report that Schiff knew about the whistleblower's concerns before the official complaint was filed, Trump claimed that Schiff "knew long before and helped write it, too."

Spokespeople for both Schiff and the whistleblower denied the allegations.

Full fact check here.

An 'exact transcript'
Trump claimed that the document released by the White House is an "exact transcript" of his call with Zelensky.

It is not an exact transcript. We know this because the document itself says so.

Full fact check here.

The whistleblower complaint form
Trump tweeted out a conspiracy theory that the form to submit whistleblower complaints was secretly changed to allow those with secondhand information to submit complaints.

There have been no changes to the rules surrounding who can submit a whistleblower complaint.

Full fact check here.

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Your so-called fact check is nothing more than the Democratic talking points. Sokin had raided the office and home of the Burisma Holdings owner. I suppose that was only for show. After that fact is when Burisma Holdings asked our State Dept. to help them out. Burisma had been known to be corrupt.
Another funny thing you have came up with is the, "cloud strike" assertion. Why didn't the DNC let the FBI check their server to check, for the validity of Russia having accessed the server for that information? That seem strange to me, that the FBI with all of the resources they have at their command, the DNC wouldn't allow them to have access to the server. Seems strange to me, that they want the FBI to check the validity of accusation's about Trump and his associates, but not about the illegal access to their server. Very strange.
As for Schiff's comments, while presiding over the investigation he made a false accusation about what Trump had said. Only later did he say, in effect, he was paraphrasing what Trump had said in the telephone call. As for Schiff and the whistle blower, Schiff initially said his staff never had contact with the whistle blower, but later recanted the story and said his staff had. It was about 15 days after the whistle blower had contact with Schiff's staff that the whistle blower filed the complaint. The actual whistle blower law had lstated that one had to have direct knowledge of wrong doing. This was changed approximately two months before the whistle blower made the allegation. This is only an approximation of the date of change. If you would have even wanted to know if the rule had been changed you could have found out. The rule change for the whistle blower, occurred about one month, confirmed by federal records, before the whistle blower made his allegation. CNN as a fact checker is a laugh. They don't even fact check their own stories.
The transcript, as we know it, had been produced by a number of people that listened in to the call. With more than one person saying, this is what occurred during the call leaves little to be found, as not being correct. You must acknowledge that Trump isn't a politician or lawyer so makes many mistakes when trying to put his point across. Politician's are great at prevaricating when they are asked a question, not so Trump, he states what he believes and that is what we get. That doesn't mean he or others have lied when they believe what they say to be the t***h. No frills or a run around the proverbial bush.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:24:42   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Who has paid attention to what the CIA, FBI and Justice Department had been up to?
AMERICA’S CORRUPTION CLUB Let’s get back on the trail……
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/americas-corruption-club-lets-follow-the-trail/
ALL DOTS CONNECTED…Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests … Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL…
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was t***sferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in B******i and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on B******i discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were k**led by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All c*********d and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this is still not being exposed
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by l*****ts … and will convince many not paying attention that we had a soft c**p attempt.
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Eagle, you have bested Singles’ length and depth!

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Dec 3, 2019 14:30:33   #
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PeterS wrote:
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary when Obama is the one who wouldn't give them the weapons they needed.

Blade, do you ever ask any questions yourself? Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it? Well, to you, that bit of logic was like water running off the back of a duck wasn't it. It didn't phase you a bit and you continued to believe your little conspiracy even though for it to be true Trump had to be the one behind his investigation.

So now we have another conspiracy--this one debunked by our OWN intelligence agencies and, as Feona Hill pointed out in her testimony, the conspiracy was originally started by Russia in order to deflect blame from themselves. So the irony of irony is that by accusing Ukraine you are acting as a puppet for the Russian government. Such is the problem one has when they build their life out of logical fallacies--you lose the ability to tell when you are being used!

https://apnews.com/23c9022665dc40a1a69e613459955112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/
https://apnews.com/319a1f4f835a4413b8b2914b977df7ab
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/fact-check-trump-s-false-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-debunked-ukraine-conspiracy-theory
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senator-repeats-debunked-narrative-country-meddled-2016/story?id=67439913
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary wh... (show quote)


Go to sleep for about a year. When you awake, you will have all your answers.

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Dec 3, 2019 15:13:22   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary when Obama is the one who wouldn't give them the weapons they needed.

Blade, do you ever ask any questions yourself? Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it? Well, to you, that bit of logic was like water running off the back of a duck wasn't it. It didn't phase you a bit and you continued to believe your little conspiracy even though for it to be true Trump had to be the one behind his investigation.

So now we have another conspiracy--this one debunked by our OWN intelligence agencies and, as Feona Hill pointed out in her testimony, the conspiracy was originally started by Russia in order to deflect blame from themselves. So the irony of irony is that by accusing Ukraine you are acting as a puppet for the Russian government. Such is the problem one has when they build their life out of logical fallacies--you lose the ability to tell when you are being used!

https://apnews.com/23c9022665dc40a1a69e613459955112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/
https://apnews.com/319a1f4f835a4413b8b2914b977df7ab
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/fact-check-trump-s-false-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-debunked-ukraine-conspiracy-theory
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senator-repeats-debunked-narrative-country-meddled-2016/story?id=67439913
Question: why would the Ukrainians want Hillary wh... (show quote)


"Remember when you were positive about some Deep State conspiracy headed by the democrats using Mueller to unjustly destroy your fearless leader? And when I pointed out that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump so for your conspiracy to be true Trump would have to be in on it?" - PeterS

NOPE!
How could Trump at that time know how deep and gooey the Swamp was?
The draining must continue.

Who has paid attention to what the CIA, FBI and Justice Department had been up to?
AMERICA’S CORRUPTION CLUB Let’s get back on the trail……
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/americas-corruption-club-lets-follow-the-trail/
ALL DOTS CONNECTED…Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests … Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL…
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was t***sferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in B******i and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on B******i discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were k**led by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All c*********d and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this is still not being exposed
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by l*****ts … and will convince many not paying attention that we had a soft c**p attempt.

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