gaconservative74

Ok genius, I will answer your question. The thing about tariffs and a trade war is that both sides hurt from it. Just like a physical war. Sometimes it’s better to come to terms other than total surrender. I realize you can’t appreciate anything that trump is trying to do because all you can do is h**e. The tariffs are detrimental to the US, but sometimes you got to Hirt a little to make things better long term.

CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country

The piece you miss on who gets hurt on tariffs, you missed a significant action by the Chinese. They devalued their dollar in order to keep the tariff price of goods in the USA, the exact same price as before the tariffs.

In other words, the Chinese made a business decision to stay competitive in USA and banked on the USA consumer to continue to buy because they saw no change in price. A solid recent example is the cost of Thanksgiving dinner rose 1 cent over last years cost. Not all Chinese products but some were in the analysis.

The real impact on China as a result of tariffs is how many USA companies are pulling out of China and coming back to America - mostly. They are losing 350 B to 500 B dollars in trade imbalance. That money was used by China to lead in area of AI (artificial intelligence), build military and Navy to rival ours and attempt to take over the South China Sea. It also gave them a push to create a "middle class" to keep their people complacent under the Chinese c*******t regime. Hong Cong gets it. And they are fighting for true freedom and a business model that limits what the government owns or controls. Give it some thought.

Rose42

You can’t give lessons in wising up if you’re not wise. Its interesting you are unable to see whats going on.

emarine

You are a true trump serf byro buddy... enjoy... http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+ends+the+birther+movemant&&view=detail&mid=84A043A4A4CEB93F8F6D84A043A4A4CEB93F8F6D&&FORM=VRDGAR

emarine

Small American family farm bankruptcy's are up 24% since trumps trade tariffs even with 32 billion in taxpayer assistance ... yes it hurts...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Joe Arpio conducted an exhaustive investigation into your lords provided birth document.

Sheriff Joe even proved which brand of copy machine used for the forgery.

His discovery is indisputable.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

No, no! Not a serf rather a conscientious supporter who made an informed decision, not an emotional politically correct choice, to prove how good they are. For example if Obama wasn't black he would not have generated the same number of v**es. And what homosexual and his husband will rise to the top, like cream in milk, before the final progressive candidate is selected?

emarine

Sheriff Joe ... indisputable ... right byro buddy... so Sheriff Opie has better resources than our entire National Intel community... surely you jest...

emarine

conscientious supporter who made an informed decision... brought to you by a habitual liar...

CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country

2 Things on your comment on small farm bankruptcy.
1. Old news. Not one article since Nov 2018. MSM news to help democrats.
2. Mostly dairy farms impacting the 24% you mention.
Two articles follow with what was being said a year ago. The tariffs have been paid to the farmers that applied for the relief. Some took Chapter 12 to allow time to pay off debt. Some just retired.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/jessecolombo/2018/11/29/heres-why-more-american-farms-are-going-bankrupt/#2350d24e65a7


"A report came out this week showing that U.S. farm bankruptcies are on the rise due to falling agricultural product prices as well as rising interest rates:

The increase in Chapter 12 filings reflects low prices for corn, soybeans, milk and even beef. The situation for most farmers has worsened since June under retaliatory tariffs that have closed the Chinese market for soybeans and damaged exports of milk and pork.

Farmers use Chapter 12 bankruptcy because it combines the simplicity of Chapter 13 bankruptcy — usually used by individuals — and the higher debt levels allowed with Chapter 11 bankruptcy — usually used by corporations. The Chapter 12 process typically allows for repayment of debt over three years."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/farm-bankruptcies-in-the-upper-midwest-have-jumped-in-one-chart-2018-11-27

Mikeyavelli

He is doing it.
The t***h is that China imports food from the United States and we import toys from China. See how long the Chinese hold out before they get hungry.

emarine

Excellent info but the point of the matter is American small family farms were doing well until trump... there is a lot of BS in trumps best ever economy... 24% is huge in a good economy for failures... seems the large corporate farms got the help not the little guy...

Mikeyavelli

We'll all be little farmers if the kommiecrats have their way, that's why they want us to get used to eating "local".

dongreen76

.....I don't know about that trade war stuff- that is to say if Trump is winning the trade war with China,;but I do know for once he is expounding the Ideologies that distinguishes the U.S. from the totaltarian world.China is reneging on the deal made a hundred years ago with England.It was understood that there would be a t***sitional period to give them time to become acclimated to a different type of rule.China wants to extradite those individuals to mainland China so that they can be judged by oppressive Jurist Prudence.There by totally disavowing the agreement

son of witless

I said, " I have found that when people do what Obama does they are usually deliberately confusing their marks before they screw them over. "

You said
" In MY long life I have found that to be the exception rather than the rule. Maybe I'm just less prone to being fooled because when people try to fool me with big words I can usually see right through it. "

I had some more clever remarks in mind, but I will just leave it there.

I said, " I have studied Samuel Johnson the great 18th English century literary figure and sometimes he would use obscure language, but you could still grasp his meaning because he valued clarity above all else. "
You said,

" My bet is that you were simply more interested in what Samuel Johnson was saying so you took the effort to learn what he meant. " Of course that is true. Johnson, not being a politician had no reason to attempt deception. Obama being a politician was more interested in winning than he was in the t***h.

I said,
" Obama deliberately uses imprecise language so that when his ideas fail he could always claim that he did not mean what you thought he said. Used car salesmen and crooked politicians do that. "

You said,
" I'm not going to say this technique isn't used in politics but I don't think it's an accurate caricature of Obama's communication to the public. I think in most cases he was just talking to the American people on an adult level. "

You've already admitted that you did not understand everything he said. I say that he looked into the TV cameras and deliberately lied about Obamacare. Now you may be higher educated than the average v**er and you did not get 100 % of what he said. Imagine how much less many other citizens understood when he spoke. Add that to the fact that I say he lied, and the inescapable conclusion is that Obama lied his ass off and used big words and twisted logic to deceive everyone, but me.

He wasn't able to deceive me. I knew the Obamacare numbers did not and could not add up. It did not matter because v**ers like you had already given him the power to enact Obamacare.