A simple question for simple minded trump supporters (Page 29): Well, there are some fuzzy lines, I will admit. But there is one thing that is crystal clear to me. What rules apply to...

straightUp Loc: California

archie bunker wrote:

Doing business in any country can be illegal if a politician uses their position, and influence to aquire said business.
Or, does that just count for the red team.

Well, there are some fuzzy lines, I will admit. But there is one thing that is crystal clear to me. What rules apply to the red team also applies to the blue team.

With that in mind, I should remind you that Trump isn't in trouble because of his businesses. Yes, people complained that he didn't divest his businesses as previous presidents have done but no one was calling that a violation of the Constitution, just a departure from standard practice.

There were also complaints that he was using his position to enrich his businesses, which is one of those fuzzy lines created by the emoluments clause in the Constitution, but with Trump, the actions were pretty clear. He was using his office to arrange for events on his properties that he profits from. But he didn't actually get in trouble for that either and some people thought he should have, which put more pressure on the Democrats to take action... but they didn't.

Now as far as I know, there is no rule that says a politician's grown adult son can't sit on the board of a foreign company. In fact such a rule would be kind of stupid, wouldn't it? I mean what do we tell the grown adult with his own career? Sorry, but your mommy is a U.S. Representative so you have to quit?

The key question is, did Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden personally profit from the arrangement by leveraging their positions as lawmakers? THAT would be a violation of the Emoluments Clause, which again, the Democrats let Trump get away with. (So if the same rules apply, you can't take them down for that either)

But just having a son on the board of directors for some company doesn't prove any of that. Arranging for political events to be hosted by your business does. So the difference is Biden and Pelosi are suspected (so far without any evidence) of violating the emoluments clause and Trump is guilty beyond a doubt but just hasn't been prosecuted for it.

Now, what Trump DID get in trouble for is bribing the President of the Ukraine, which has got to be the dumbest thing any president has ever done.

So far, the red team hounds haven't found the slightest indication that ANY Democrat, much less the top ranking Democrats, have bribed or attempted to bribe (which is legally the same thing) or even acted like they were bribing anyone.

So if we ARE applying the same rules to both teams, the red team is losing BIG time.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

straightUp wrote:

Well, there are some fuzzy lines, I will admit. But there is one thing that is crystal clear to me. What rules apply to the red team also applies to the blue team.

With that in mind, I should remind you that Trump isn't in trouble because of his businesses. Yes, people complained that he didn't divest his businesses as previous presidents have done but no one was calling that a violation of the Constitution, just a departure from standard practice.

There were also complaints that he was using his position to enrich his businesses, which is one of those fuzzy lines created by the emoluments clause in the Constitution, but with Trump, the actions were pretty clear. He was using his office to arrange for events on his properties that he profits from. But he didn't actually get in trouble for that either and some people thought he should have, which put more pressure on the Democrats to take action... but they didn't.

Now as far as I know, there is no rule that says a politician's grown adult son can't sit on the board of a foreign company. In fact such a rule would be kind of stupid, wouldn't it? I mean what do we tell the grown adult with his own career? Sorry, but your mommy is a U.S. Representative so you have to quit?

The key question is, did Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden personally profit from the arrangement by leveraging their positions as lawmakers? THAT would be a violation of the Emoluments Clause, which again, the Democrats let Trump get away with. (So if the same rules apply, you can't take them down for that either)

But just having a son on the board of directors for some company doesn't prove any of that. Arranging for political events to be hosted by your business does. So the difference is Biden and Pelosi are suspected (so far without any evidence) of violating the emoluments clause and Trump is guilty beyond a doubt but just hasn't been prosecuted for it.

Now, what Trump DID get in trouble for is bribing the President of the Ukraine, which has got to be the dumbest thing any president has ever done.

So far, the red team hounds haven't found the slightest indication that ANY Democrat, much less the top ranking Democrats, have bribed or attempted to bribe (which is legally the same thing) or even acted like they were bribing anyone.

So if we ARE applying the same rules to both teams, the red team is losing BIG time.

Well, there are some fuzzy lines, I will admit. Bu... (show quote)

Gotcha Mr. Wordsmith!

By way of explanation to the hyperintelligent here, "gotcha" used in this context means "I understand".

In other words, members of the blue team are as pure as the driven snow, and dust on your windowsill can be traced directly to Trump.

You're a magnificent wordsmith, yet crystal clear at the same time.

I'm done with ya bro. You're fun, but typical.

Mikeyavelli

archie bunker wrote:

Gotcha Mr. Wordsmith!

By way of explanation to the hyperintelligent here, "gotcha" used in this context means "I understand".

In other words, members of the blue team are as pure as the driven snow, and dust on your windowsill can be traced directly to Trump.

You're a magnificent wordsmith, yet crystal clear at the same time.

I'm done with ya bro. You're fun, but typical.

👍👍😄

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

archie bunker wrote:

Gotcha Mr. Wordsmith!

By way of explanation to the hyperintelligent here, "gotcha" used in this context means "I understand".

In other words, members of the blue team are as pure as the driven snow, and dust on your windowsill can be traced directly to Trump.

You're a magnificent wordsmith, yet crystal clear at the same time.

I'm done with ya bro. You're fun, but typical.

"Now, what Trump DID get in trouble for is bribing the President of the Ukraine, which has got to be the dumbest thing any president has ever done." - sUp

Wrong!
Untrue!
Apparently you are unable to free yourself from the Lefts BS spin.
Not wasting my time to go over that AGAIN!

Chamuco

archie bunker wrote:

This post reeks of snobbery in my opinion. br Not... (show quote)

your attitude is a bit snobbish itself.

i don't "look down" on tradesman but.., for a "tradesman" to suggest that i need to "educate myself" as to politics and the law [where this conversation began] is ridiculous coming from someone who is CLEARLY less "educated" in those areas than i.

it would be equally irrational for me to tell a tradesman to "educate himself" if i disagreed with how he practiced his trade which i know far less about.

what truly "reeks" is your jumping into an ongoing dialogue ignorant of its' roots.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Chamuco wrote:

your attitude is a bit snobbish itself. br br i d... (show quote)

You have all the needed haughtiness to be a hard core l*****t.

As they can't hide they're disdainful attitudes toward the working man either.

You couldn't hide it even when you tried.!

emarine

Saspatz007 wrote:

They are definitely dangerous but I still think the military industrial complex is more dangerous.

You mean the fortune 500... it's all the same...

Mikeyavelli

byronglimish wrote:

You have all the needed haughtiness to be a hard core l*****t.

As they can't hide they're disdainful attitudes toward the working man either.

You couldn't hide it even when you tried.!

Every kommiecrat is holier and more intelligent and clairvoyant than anyone who is a conservative.
After all, they know what America can be and they don't want America to be a better place to live than any other country. So, just do away with countries and take America's wealth and distribute it world wide. One government, no borders, no Superpower other than the policing force of Islam.
That's the lefty dream.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Mikeyavelli wrote:

Every kommiecrat is holier and more intelligent and clairvoyant than anyone who is a conservative.
After all, they know what America can be and they don't want America to be a better place to live than any other country. So, just do away with countries and take America's wealth and distribute it world wide. One government, no borders, no Superpower other than the policing force of Islam.
That's the lefty dream.

That's them.!

straightUp Loc: California

archie bunker wrote:

Gotcha Mr. Wordsmith!

By way of explanation to the hyperintelligent here, "gotcha" used in this context means "I understand".

In other words, members of the blue team are as pure as the driven snow, and dust on your windowsill can be traced directly to Trump.

You're a magnificent wordsmith, yet crystal clear at the same time.

I'm done with ya bro. You're fun, but typical.

LOL - I just saw this...

Glad you can recognize my fine technique - I appreciate the compliment from that part of your brain way in the back that the rest of your brain is telling to shut up...

I guess congratulations on getting my message? I mean from "crystal clear" (but what I really mean is you're t***sparent) all the way to that overblown interpretation. Just seems like a lot work for such a simple response.

Rose42

archie bunker wrote:

Gotcha Mr. Wordsmith!

By way of explanation to the hyperintelligent here, "gotcha" used in this context means "I understand".

In other words, members of the blue team are as pure as the driven snow, and dust on your windowsill can be traced directly to Trump.

You're a magnificent wordsmith, yet crystal clear at the same time.

I'm done with ya bro. You're fun, but typical.

Yep, you nailed it.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

emarine wrote:

You mean the fortune 500... it's all the same...

The Fortune 500 are just individuals. The really dangerous ones run in packs.

And, yes, it’s very difficult to separate them from the military industrial complex.

Either way, they have us all by the... depends on the g****r.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Now, what Trump DID get in trouble for is bribing the President of the Ukraine, which has got to be the dumbest thing any president has ever done." - sUp

Wrong!
Untrue!
Apparently you are unable to free yourself from the Lefts BS spin.
Not wasting my time to go over that AGAIN!

Well guess I had to, since no response from sUp.

Mikeyavelli

eagleye13 wrote:

"Now, what Trump DID get in trouble for is bribing the President of the Ukraine, which has got to be the dumbest thing any president has ever done." - sUp

Wrong!
Untrue!
Apparently you are unable to free yourself from the Lefts BS spin.
Not wasting my time to go over that AGAIN!

Well guess I had to, since no response from sUp.

Trump's crime is that he won the e******n.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

factnotfiction wrote:

A simple minded fool and cannot face the t***h or answer a simple question.

Quick, turn a fool at fox so you can learn what to think

factnotfiction; An hour a day on FOX, may educate you enough to get the facts right.
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