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Nov 30, 2019 00:10:44   #
EconomistDon
 
factnotfiction wrote:
You must have got your on-line degree from trump u


Nofactsjustfiction, you responded with more dumb questions. Which are you "dumb" or "dumber"?

factnotfiction wrote:
Answer the simple question as to who is paying the 'billions and billions of dollars' into the treasury.


American business and American workers who are now thriving in America's renaissance. It's called federal taxes from business and workers. A more robust economy generates more federal revenue. It's sad that Democrats never figure that out.

factnotfiction wrote:
And with the tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum, why are US steel mills not running at capacity


https://www.stltoday.com/business/u-s-steel-plant-reopening/article_0d5937a5-b1d3-59a3-bd80-38e555674d53.html
https://www.wesa.fm/post/us-steel-credits-trump-tariffs-reopening-manufacturing-facility#stream/0
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2019/02/15/us-steel-texas-mill.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/business/us-steel-mill/index.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-us-steel-tariffs-gary-plant-20180816-story.html
https://www.post-gazette.com/business/career-workplace/2019/05/02/U-S-Steel-to-spend-1-billion-on-Mon-Valley-Works/stories/201905020023
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/01/republic-steel-plans-to-reopen-lorain-mill.html
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/7/22/18431079/trump-visits-granite-city-thursday-home-to-reopened-u-s-steel-mill
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/south-carolina-steel-plant-reopened-by-uk-industrialist-avoiding-tariffs
https://www.wmbfnews.com/story/38503333/georgetown-steel-mill-reopens/
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/alton-steel-mill-reopens#stream/0
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia/articles/2018-10-18/idled-steel-mill-in-kentucky-to-reopen

factnotfiction wrote:
And why does Japan get a pass on tariffs, since they impose massive tariffs on certain US products


Japan does NOT get a pass on tariffs. Obama wanted to give them a pass under the T***s Pacific Partnership, but Trump nixed the TPP. Under TPP, tariffs would have been ended on Japanese cars and car parts. Do you realize that Japan sells 75 cars to America for each ONE car that they buy from America? What the hell was Obama thinking? Oh that's right, Obama knew as much about economics as you know.

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Nov 30, 2019 00:15:52   #
jimbrowning71
 
Hey come on guys leave off the "chink" stuff. If you have nothing intelligent to say don't say anything.

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Nov 30, 2019 00:18:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
maximus wrote:
Sorry. I get tired of bring called names. I can do it as well as anybody, but I DO try to keep my composure. And I wasn't crying either. I ain't leaving OPP either. I will treat those with respect who deserve respect, as for the rest...who cares?



I'm with you...

Just wanted to make sure you're all right

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Nov 30, 2019 00:27:17   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Platforms

Not people


Come on he specifically said liberals, all liberals.
That’s my objection.

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Nov 30, 2019 00:34:19   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Rose42 wrote:
I hear you on that. People don’t want to believe it which is why nothing really changes.


The ranting right an the sniveling left are like the peanut gallery. Loud obnoxious and useless.

They remind me of squabbling monkeys. All they do is scream at each other and throw feces.

This is why I’m looking for other grounded liberals and hopefully some some sensible conservatives.

The same among us really need to find each other and come up with a strategy to go after the oligarchs. I don’t care what party they’re in, or what banner they wave.

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Nov 30, 2019 00:34:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Come on he specifically said liberals, all liberals.
That’s my objection.


I'm agreeing with you....

I just hope that you don't base your v**e off of personal like or dislike of the individual...

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Nov 30, 2019 00:45:06   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I'm agreeing with you....

I just hope that you don't base your v**e off of personal like or dislike of the individual...


Like I said either Sanders or Warren would be a disaster. They seem to be bent on k*****g the golden goose.

I don’t like Trump, as a man he’s an adulterer. If a man can’t keep his word to someone he’s supposed to love, why should I trust him?

I disagree with a number of his policies.

I have no intention of v****g for any of the Democratic candidates on offer.

I won’t v**e Trump unless the nominee is too dangerous. Hillary qualified. I’ll just abstain.

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Nov 30, 2019 00:52:54   #
EconomistDon
 
Rose42 wrote:
You can’t give lessons in wising up if you’re not wise. Its interesting you are unable to see whats going on.


I'm with you Rose. I don't bother with Straight anymore. I've debunked loads of his theories, and it all goes over his head. He is a legend in his own mind. That means he thinks he has all the answers (but he doesn't) and has no need to consider anything anyone else presents. He is soooo impressed with himself. So why bother?

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Nov 30, 2019 00:54:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Like I said either Sanders or Warren would be a disaster. They seem to be bent on k*****g the golden goose.

I don’t like Trump, as a man he’s an adulterer. If a man can’t keep his word to someone he’s supposed to love, why should I trust him?

I disagree with a number of his policies.

I have no intention of v****g for any of the Democratic candidates on offer.

I won’t v**e Trump unless the nominee is too dangerous. Hillary qualified. I’ll just abstain.


I dislike abstaining...

Write in v**es send a clearer message...

And might eventually lead to change...

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Nov 30, 2019 01:05:47   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I dislike abstaining...

Write in v**es send a clearer message...

And might eventually lead to change...


I’m considering Chris Coons. He’d be a good president.

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Nov 30, 2019 01:41:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EconomistDon wrote:
I'm with you Rose. I don't bother with Straight anymore. I've debunked loads of his theories, and it all goes over his head. He is a legend in his own mind. That means he thinks he has all the answers (but he doesn't) and has no need to consider anything anyone else presents. He is soooo impressed with himself. So why bother?


This seems to be a theme...

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Nov 30, 2019 01:55:51   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I'm with you...

Just wanted to make sure you're all right


Whew! Yeah...I'm calmed down now. Today, I was like that old Paul Newman movie where he said ,"I'm mad as hell and I won't take it anymore!" On another thread, woodguru said that half of thr troopd Trump visited h**ed him and were kept away. So, I said...if you have any proof, post it and I'll look at it. No answer as of yet. straightup and factnotfiction has been smarta$$es since I first saw anything they posted. I've put up with it long enough. I've learned how to say what I want to and NOT get deleted or suspended.
But...I'm fine now. Thanks for asking, my friend,
David

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Nov 30, 2019 02:02:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
maximus wrote:
Whew! Yeah...I'm calmed down now. Today, I was like that old Paul Newman movie where he said ,"I'm mad as hell and I won't take it anymore!" On another thread, woodguru said that half of thr troopd Trump visited h**ed him and were kept away. So, I said...if you have any proof, post it and I'll look at it. No answer as of yet. straightup and factnotfiction has been smarta$$es since I first saw anything they posted. I've put up with it long enough. I've learned how to say what I want to and NOT get deleted or suspended.
But...I'm fine now. Thanks for asking, my friend,
David
Whew! Yeah...I'm calmed down now. Today, I was lik... (show quote)


I understand...

Trolls gotta troll..

It's unfortunate how difficult it is to have a civil conversation these days...

Try looking for WorkingClassStiff or Permi....

They're both pretty cool...

Or stick to the right

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Nov 30, 2019 02:03:53   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
factnotfiction wrote:
Since trump just sided with Hong Kong and pissed China off, the chance of a new trade deal may have just vanished like the t***h when trump or his con supporters try to spin a lie.

That said, if trump is telling the t***h that China's economy is much worse than the U.S economy, and that China is paying billions and billions and billions of dollars into the treasury, the question becomes why should trump ever end his tariffs on China, in fact why not increase both the rate of tariffs and expand the number of products affected by the trump tariffs.

In a few years or less, trump could bankrupt China, and lower taxes here even further. And pay down the ever increasing trump monthly deficit and ever increasing national debt.

Sounds like a plan that all trump cons should be able to support, so why won't trump do it?
Since trump just sided with Hong Kong and pissed C... (show quote)

Why would President Trump want to continue the Tariffs. He is using the USA charging Tariffs of Foreign Goods entering the USA from Countries that have been charging High Tariffs for USA Goods entering their countries. President Trump wants these high Tariffs to stop and have the money go into the Makers and Growers pockets. This is a Trade War and the idea is to win, not continue escalating this war. China is at the negotiation Table to try and "Cool Down" situation caused by the Unfair Trade that they have been enjoying.

Your plan of "Why not keep the Trade War going and have all this money go to the Government... so like the Dims and Radical Progressives... Just tax the Rich - put all wealth in the hands of the Progressive Elites running the Country.



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Nov 30, 2019 02:04:20   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
The ranting right an the sniveling left are like the peanut gallery. Loud obnoxious and useless.

They remind me of squabbling monkeys. All they do is scream at each other and throw feces.

This is why I’m looking for other grounded liberals and hopefully some some sensible conservatives.

The same among us really need to find each other and come up with a strategy to go after the oligarchs. I don’t care what party they’re in, or what banner they wave.


Hey! I'll buy that for a dollar!!! I agree that Trump's not perfect by a long shot, Instead of not v****g, I v**ed for the one I thought would do the best job, and I believe that I was right. I can't fault him for his marriages...I have been married more than once myself. Judge not lest ye be judged ( that's for me only). I DO believe that Trump would work with the democrats because he's asked them several times to come see him. I don't think I would say you are a liberal, I think you're more like the old party democrats and they were OK.

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