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Nov 21, 2019 11:10:04   #
nwtk2007
 
There's no doubt that Vindman was the source of the initial information the whistle blower got. Vindman convinced the whistle blower that Trump "demanded" that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent. But rather than make the complaint himself, Vindman the coward, convinced the whistle blower to do it for him. Vindman claims he was compelled to testify by his duty to the country. Why wasn't he the one who made the whistle blower complaint???? What a sorry sack of "schitt!"

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Nov 21, 2019 11:23:24   #
vernon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There's no doubt that Vindman was the source of the initial information the whistle blower got. Vindman convinced the whistle blower that Trump "demanded" that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent. But rather than make the complaint himself, Vindman the coward, convinced the whistle blower to do it for him. Vindman claims he was compelled to testify by his duty to the country. Why wasn't he the one who made the whistle blower complaint???? What a sorry sack of "schitt!"
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All demoRATS are liars and worthless crap.

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Nov 21, 2019 11:24:14   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There's no doubt that Vindman was the source of the initial information the whistle blower got. Vindman convinced the whistle blower that Trump "demanded" that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent. But rather than make the complaint himself, Vindman the coward, convinced the whistle blower to do it for him. Vindman claims he was compelled to testify by his duty to the country. Why wasn't he the one who made the whistle blower complaint???? What a sorry sack of "schitt!"
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How the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer’s crimes came to the attention of congress the inspector general and the public is completely irrelevant. Any political affiliation of the whistleblower and other staffers is likewise completely irrelevant. The one and only thing that is important is that Trump answers for the very obvious crimes he has and continues to commit.

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Nov 21, 2019 11:43:43   #
nwtk2007
 
Kevyn wrote:
How the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer’s crimes came to the attention of congress the inspector general and the public is completely irrelevant. Any political affiliation of the whistle blower and other staffers is likewise completely irrelevant. The one and only thing that is important is that Trump answers for the very obvious crimes he has and continues to commit.


First of all, the political affiliation of the whistle blower is of paramount importance and relevance. Of the 17 people who actually heard the live phone call, zero came came forward to report anything about it. If Vindman has such patriotic obligation, why didn't he come forward himself? We all know the answer to that.

It does worry me about the IG. It makes me wonder if he will act on any of the crimes he now claims to be investigating. We shall see.

But yes, all information about the whistle blower is entirely relevant and if, which I doubt it will, this ever gets to the senate, it will ALL be revealed including his identity and the lies told by those who made the claim to not know who he is.

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Nov 21, 2019 11:44:24   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Kevyn wrote:
How the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer’s crimes came to the attention of congress the inspector general and the public is completely irrelevant. Any political affiliation of the whistleblower and other staffers is likewise completely irrelevant. The one and only thing that is important is that Trump answers for the very obvious crimes he has and continues to commit.


What crimes, no crime, just whine. You can only stack bullshit so high before you begin to wallow in it.
Ooooo Ooooo that smell.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:17:05   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
First of all, the political affiliation of the whistle blower is of paramount importance and relevance. Of the 17 people who actually heard the live phone call, zero came came forward to report anything about it. If Vindman has such patriotic obligation, why didn't he come forward himself? We all know the answer to that.

It does worry me about the IG. It makes me wonder if he will act on any of the crimes he now claims to be investigating. We shall see.

But yes, all information about the whistle blower is entirely relevant and if, which I doubt it will, this ever gets to the senate, it will ALL be revealed including his identity and the lies told by those who made the claim to not know who he is.
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I thought the truth would be of paramount importance.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:38:33   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I thought the truth would be of paramount importance.


We have heard plenty of proof, but none of it included a crime to have been committed by Trump. All os should be for the truth! But with Schiff in charge, being a Trump hater and having lied about having information on crime President Trump has committed. He has never shown any proof, that he claimed for three years, to have been right in plain sight. That leads one to speculate that he has been lying for three years and continues too do that this very day. So sad, that a party has rejected an election like the Dems have, for three long years. They wanted to impeach him even before he was sworn into office.

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Nov 21, 2019 13:12:48   #
nwtk2007
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I thought the truth would be of paramount importance.


The "truth" is, there was no quid pro quo offered and none received. There was only what was thought to be, that which was emphatically stated by Trump, and taht which did not happen; Ulraine received their aid in exchange for nothing. When asked what Trump wanted, Trump emphatically stated"nothing, no quid pro quo, for the president to simply do the right thing."

That is what you have.

As for the whistle blowers affiliation, it goes to motivation. Obviously his complaint is now proven to be bogus. Vindman is now proven to be the idiot who started the whole thing by telling the WB'er that Trump "demanded" the quid pro quo, which he did not.

Complete truth is always preferable to partial truth; not a thing you leftists have come to realize!

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Nov 21, 2019 13:15:01   #
Lonewolf
 
Louie27 wrote:
We have heard plenty of proof, but none of it included a crime to have been committed by Trump. All os should be for the truth! But with Schiff in charge, being a Trump hater and having lied about having information on crime President Trump has committed. He has never shown any proof, that he claimed for three years, to have been right in plain sight. That leads one to speculate that he has been lying for three years and continues too do that this very day. So sad, that a party has rejected an election like the Dems have, for three long years. They wanted to impeach him even before he was sworn into office.
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Exactly like you treated Obama , thing to remember trump started this himself

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Nov 21, 2019 13:35:36   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The "truth" is, there was no quid pro quo offered and none received. There was only what was thought to be, that which was emphatically stated by Trump, and taht which did not happen; Ulraine received their aid in exchange for nothing. When asked what Trump wanted, Trump emphatically stated"nothing, no quid pro quo, for the president to simply do the right thing."

That is what you have.

As for the whistle blowers affiliation, it goes to motivation. Obviously his complaint is now proven to be bogus. Vindman is now proven to be the idiot who started the whole thing by telling the WB'er that Trump "demanded" the quid pro quo, which he did not.

Complete truth is always preferable to partial truth; not a thing you leftists have come to realize!
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They got the aid after the complaint

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Nov 21, 2019 13:50:45   #
nwtk2007
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Exactly like you treated Obama , thing to remember trump started this himself


Trump treated Obama very well thank you. He just thinks and thought all politicians were stupid but honest. What an eye opener for him!

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Nov 21, 2019 13:54:10   #
nwtk2007
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They got the aid after the complaint


Maybe that was when all the idiots cam to realize that Trump didn't want a quid pro quo, as in nothing fro Ukraine, only for the president of Ukraine to do what is right.

By the way, the aid can't even be used on the front lines. Are you aware of that? Probably not. So, what was the rush. It's there now and nary a shot has been fired from those Javaline rockets. Hmm.

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Nov 21, 2019 18:40:37   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Exactly like you treated Obama , thing to remember trump started this himself


The only thing I said that was derogatory to President Obama was, he lied about the ACA. That we could still go to our doctors and keep our insurance. That was two lies I remember very clearly, which affected millions of Americans. I also didn't like most of his policies. But I don't remember ever call him any gross names. Which, you on the left, do all the time toward President Trump. How could Trump state this himself, when the Democrats started saying Impeach him before he had carried out any orders or signed any bills. Most on the left seem to have memories lacking in truth, with anything connected with Trump.

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Nov 21, 2019 20:31:23   #
moldyoldy
 
Louie27 wrote:
The only thing I said that was derogatory to President Obama was, he lied about the ACA. That we could still go to our doctors and keep our insurance. That was two lies I remember very clearly, which affected millions of Americans. I also didn't like most of his policies. But I don't remember ever call him any gross names. Which, you on the left, do all the time toward President Trump. How could Trump state this himself, when the Democrats started saying Impeach him before he had carried out any orders or signed any bills. Most on the left seem to have memories lacking in truth, with anything connected with Trump.
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He said that you could keep your doctor, then the insurance crooks changed the rules.

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Nov 21, 2019 20:42:31   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He said that you could keep your doctor, then the insurance crooks changed the rules.


You can't change a lie by lying about it.

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