The law doesn't operate in shades of gray, violating the law is black and white. There is no degree that rises to the level, for that is the slippery slope the right seems to worry so much about.
The constitution say bribery is impeachable, not major bribery...bribery, which this is pretty damn major.
But while we are worrying this level of rising to impeachment like a rat terrier with a little stuffed toy, this case is about withholding aid to our ally and strategic defense partner. And now we have evidence surfacing not only who was blocking it but why, and the why is so far over the line it's deep in treason territory. Mulvaney apparently acknowledged putting the block on military aid because, "we" were worried about Russia's reaction. There wouldn't be much mystery surrounding the collective we would there? Meanwhile the entire rest of the state department, and intelligence services were firmly in agreement that the Ukraine needed help fighting off Russian advances. The only person or people worried about hurting Putin's feelings was Trump and a few insiders working outside of official channels that had authorized military support.
If Trump ever had a conversation with Putin that directed him to withhold military aid, capital punishment for war crimes and treason would be appropriate. Even without proof, wh**ever his reasons for knowing or thinking Putin would not like the US giving the Ukraine weapons that would be used against Russian tanks proves that Trump put the interests of Putin ahead of the interests of our allies. People, Mulvaney and Pompeo as well as others need to go to prison for this crap. The entire rest of the state department including Bolton seemed to know that what Trump was doing was wrong.
woodguru wrote:
The law doesn't operate in shades of gray, violating the law is black and white. There is no degree that rises to the level, for that is the slippery slope the right seems to worry so much about.
The constitution say bribery is impeachable, not major bribery...bribery, which this is pretty damn major.
But while we are worrying this level of rising to impeachment like a rat terrier with a little stuffed toy, this case is about withholding aid to our ally and strategic defense partner. And now we have evidence surfacing not only who was blocking it but why, and the why is so far over the line it's deep in treason territory. Mulvaney apparently acknowledged putting the block on military aid because, "we" were worried about Russia's reaction. There wouldn't be much mystery surrounding the collective we would there? Meanwhile the entire rest of the state department, and intelligence services were firmly in agreement that the Ukraine needed help fighting off Russian advances. The only person or people worried about hurting Putin's feelings was Trump and a few insiders working outside of official channels that had authorized military support.
If Trump ever had a conversation with Putin that directed him to withhold military aid, capital punishment for war crimes and treason would be appropriate. Even without proof, wh**ever his reasons for knowing or thinking Putin would not like the US giving the Ukraine weapons that would be used against Russian tanks proves that Trump put the interests of Putin ahead of the interests of our allies. People, Mulvaney and Pompeo as well as others need to go to prison for this crap. The entire rest of the state department including Bolton seemed to know that what Trump was doing was wrong.
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Your TDS is sending you off the delusional deep end. Now you do not just want Trump out of office you want him executed. You would cheer assassination. You and your ilks are extremely dangerous and totally unamerican.
Liberty Tree wrote:
Your TDS is sending you off the delusional deep end. Now you do not just want Trump out of office you want him executed. You would cheer assassination. You and your ilks are extremely dangerous and totally unamerican.
Well putin did elect trump
woodguru wrote:
The law doesn't operate in shades of gray, violating the law is black and white. There is no degree that rises to the level, for that is the slippery slope the right seems to worry so much about.
The constitution say bribery is impeachable, not major bribery...bribery, which this is pretty damn major.
But while we are worrying this level of rising to impeachment like a rat terrier with a little stuffed toy, this case is about withholding aid to our ally and strategic defense partner. And now we have evidence surfacing not only who was blocking it but why, and the why is so far over the line it's deep in treason territory. Mulvaney apparently acknowledged putting the block on military aid because, "we" were worried about Russia's reaction. There wouldn't be much mystery surrounding the collective we would there? Meanwhile the entire rest of the state department, and intelligence services were firmly in agreement that the Ukraine needed help fighting off Russian advances. The only person or people worried about hurting Putin's feelings was Trump and a few insiders working outside of official channels that had authorized military support.
If Trump ever had a conversation with Putin that directed him to withhold military aid, capital punishment for war crimes and treason would be appropriate. Even without proof, wh**ever his reasons for knowing or thinking Putin would not like the US giving the Ukraine weapons that would be used against Russian tanks proves that Trump put the interests of Putin ahead of the interests of our allies. People, Mulvaney and Pompeo as well as others need to go to prison for this crap. The entire rest of the state department including Bolton seemed to know that what Trump was doing was wrong.
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First of all, Trump gave them lethal aid to be used against Russia from the beginning of his presidency. Your comments are contradictory. He might have delayed some but they now have them and Russia didn't gain anything from the delay. However, if trump wants to delay arms and aid on the condition that Ukraine investigate corruption at Burisma and during the 2016 e******n, he can if he wants to. There is no evidence he did on that condition but if he did, more power to him. Since when to the democraps NOT want to stop e******n i**********e? Y'all been claiming it was e******n i**********e that got Trump elected. Is that not true any more? Or are y'all just a bunch of hypocrites now that it actually looks like the outside interference came from Ukraine and was directed to help Clinton??
Which is it??
woodguru wrote:
The law doesn't operate in shades of gray, violating the law is black and white. There is no degree that rises to the level, for that is the slippery slope the right seems to worry so much about.
The constitution say bribery is impeachable, not major bribery...bribery, which this is pretty damn major.
But while we are worrying this level of rising to impeachment like a rat terrier with a little stuffed toy, this case is about withholding aid to our ally and strategic defense partner. And now we have evidence surfacing not only who was blocking it but why, and the why is so far over the line it's deep in treason territory. Mulvaney apparently acknowledged putting the block on military aid because, "we" were worried about Russia's reaction. There wouldn't be much mystery surrounding the collective we would there? Meanwhile the entire rest of the state department, and intelligence services were firmly in agreement that the Ukraine needed help fighting off Russian advances. The only person or people worried about hurting Putin's feelings was Trump and a few insiders working outside of official channels that had authorized military support.
If Trump ever had a conversation with Putin that directed him to withhold military aid, capital punishment for war crimes and treason would be appropriate. Even without proof, wh**ever his reasons for knowing or thinking Putin would not like the US giving the Ukraine weapons that would be used against Russian tanks proves that Trump put the interests of Putin ahead of the interests of our allies. People, Mulvaney and Pompeo as well as others need to go to prison for this crap. The entire rest of the state department including Bolton seemed to know that what Trump was doing was wrong.
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They "seemed" to know something?? I call that not knowing!
Lonewolf wrote:
Well putin did elect trump
About time, Putin would have been a much better than Obama.
Lonewolf wrote:
Well putin did elect trump
How many v**es did Putin cast? This is really what all this impeachment sham is about. Democrats just cannot accept that Hillary lost and have to come up with all kinds of excuses rather than the t***h.
If Trump has released the money to the Ukraine with no temporizing at all, the whistleblower would have filed a complaint saying that Trump gave the money too fast.
Liberty Tree wrote:
How many v**es did Putin cast? This is really what all this impeachment sham is about. Democrats just cannot accept that Hillary lost and have to come up with all kinds of excuses rather than the t***h.
It's funny how we are finding out that it was the democrats who were actually colluding with a foreign power to interfere with a political opponent and not Trump at all! How frick'in ironic!! Mueller was investigating the wrong guy. I wonder if Comey even knew it? The more I think about it the stupider he looks. Comey has got to be the most pathetic of the Trump h**ers.
Mueller was doused with Geritol. I doubt he did more than pose for glossy magazine articles and front as the Infallible Boston Brahmin.
Yeah the whistleblower sure has opened the door on what Hilary spent her time doing as SecState in Ukraine.
Another ugly side of the Teflon Obama presidency.
Biden run r**t in the Urals! His i***t sections 4a son collecting Leo Padema money working in Natural gas sciences?
geez Obama if Snowy Joe Biden could play Soviet Bloc jock, where the hell were you?
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's funny how we are finding out that it was the democrats who were actually colluding with a foreign power to interfere with a political opponent and not Trump at all! How frick'in ironic!! Mueller was investigating the wrong guy. I wonder if Comey even knew it? The more I think about it the stupider he looks. Comey has got to be the most pathetic of the Trump h**ers.
As son as T***P w*n, the Deep State had to immediately go on the offensive to try and protect themselves. As long as they were investigating Trump, Hillay and Obama were not getting the attention.
Hug wrote:
As son as T***P w*n, the Deep State had to immediately go on the offensive to try and protect themselves. As long as they were investigating Trump, Hillay and Obama were not getting the attention.
They are counting on time to muddy the waters. Time makes it all seem like it really didn't happen.
nwtk2007 wrote:
First of all, Trump gave them lethal aid to be used against Russia from the beginning of his presidency. Your comments are contradictory. He might have delayed some but they now have them and Russia didn't gain anything from the delay. However, if trump wants to delay arms and aid on the condition that Ukraine investigate corruption at Burisma and during the 2016 e******n, he can if he wants to. There is no evidence he did on that condition but if he did, more power to him. Since when to the democraps NOT want to stop e******n i**********e? Y'all been claiming it was e******n i**********e that got Trump elected. Is that not true any more? Or are y'all just a bunch of hypocrites now that it actually looks like the outside interference came from Ukraine and was directed to help Clinton??
Which is it??
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E******n i**********e countries: Ukraine
France
UK
Germany
Italy
Rome-the Vatican
you might be interested in their contributions to the hag's or DNC bankroll. All for the democraps. I was working with a journalist Angry Patriot who later changed his name to Mad Patriot. He was deplatformed. A sergeant.
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