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Popular V**e’ Movement Would Shift Power to Big Cities.
Nov 12, 2019 11:54:55   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Popular V**e’ Movement Would Shift Power to Big Cities.

The E*******l College is under threat from states looking to enact legislation that ignores local v**ers in favor of national e******n results, experts said during a panel Thursday at The Heritage Foundation.

Responding to a wave of 15 states that have joined the National Popular V**e Interstate Compact since the 2016 e******n, they argued that the Founders instituted the E*******l College to ensure stability and representation to all states. With a Popular V**e, only 3 states would be required to elect the President.
California, New York, and Illinois could do it. All big Democrat-run. The rest of America will not have a say.
The C****es are loving it.

“We only got the Constitution because the Constitutional Convention persuaded the states to enter into a federation arrangement,” Allen Guelzo, a history professor at Gettysburg College, said. “Federalism is in the bones of our nation, and I would be concerned that we can’t start removing bones without the whole body collapsing.”

The panel, titled “The Fight to Preserve the E*******l College,” featured Guelzo as well as Trent England, executive vice president of the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs, and Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at Heritage.

The National Popular V**e Interstate Compact is a legislative partnership among states that agree to award all their e*******l v**es in future e******ns to whichever candidate wins the national popular v**e, disregarding the results of b****ts cast in each individual state.

The compact would take effect only once enough states join to determine an e******n by awarding all 270 e*******l v**es needed to secure a p**********l win.

So far, 15 states and the District of Columbia have joined the compact. Lobbyists actively are looking to expand the agreement to more states whose leaders were upset by the results of the 2016 e******n, when Republican Donald T***p w*n the presidency despite losing the national popular v**e to Democrat Hillary Clinton.
https://www.nationalpopularv**e.com/state-status Seems the left is more dedicated to k*****g America then the Right are to saving it.

Guelzo argued that the E*******l College slows down p**********l e******ns by design, providing legitimacy to the presidency and combating v***r f***d.

“The E*******l College embodies a fundamental instinct of the Founders, which is to say ‘slow down,’” he said, adding that “gridlock is not actually an accident.”

The history professor pushed back on objections to the E*******l College, including by some analysts who have argued that the current system violates the principle of one person, one v**e.

“If one man, one v**e is to be the rule, then as soon as a president loses popular support we ought to have another v**e,” Guelzo said. “So we could have p**********l e******ns every six months, three months, eight months—every time there’s an unpleasant tweet.”

England based his arguments on the 2000 e******n when Republican George W. Bush lost the national v**e to Democrat Al Gore and a recount in Florida for that state’s e*******l v**e threatened to decide who sits in the Oval Office.

“This is not just going on in blue states, this is going on across the country,” England said of the movement to bypass the e*******l college. “This is a serious threat wherever you live. Red state, purple state, there are people there lobbying to hijack the E*******l College.”

England said the movement for states to bypass the E*******l College without going through the difficult process of amending the Constitution gained renewed strength after the 2016 e******n.

Grassroots activists and lobbying organizations, he said, are driving a message that misleads many v**ers about the facts of the current e*******l system.

Von Spakovsky, manager of Heritage’s E******n Law Reform Initiative, turned to v****g numbers to argue that rural areas would be left behind if the E*******l College were abolished.

“The whole point of the E*******l College is to balance the states’ demands for greater representation and sovereignty against the risk of what James Madison liked to call the tyranny of the majority,” von Spakovsky said.

Looking again at the 2000 e******n, he warned that without the E*******l College, the chaos that v**ers and the nation at large experienced during the Florida recount would be extended to every state and county across the nation, as candidates demanded recounts in every region that potentially could sway an e******n in their favor.

As a result, von Spakovsky said, the decisions of the president would be seen as illegitimate by significant portions of the nation, and v***r f***d would run rampant in areas unprepared to deal with it.

“What we’ve had for over 200 years with the E*******l College system is unbelievable stability,” he said.

“There is no reason to change it now.”

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/11/08/popular-v**e-movement-would-shift-power-to-big-cities-experts-warn/





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Nov 12, 2019 12:58:27   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
MR Mister wrote:
Popular V**e’ Movement Would Shift Power to Big Cities.

The E*******l College is under threat from states looking to enact legislation that ignores local v**ers in favor of national e******n results, experts said during a panel Thursday at The Heritage Foundation.

Responding to a wave of 15 states that have joined the National Popular V**e Interstate Compact since the 2016 e******n, they argued that the Founders instituted the E*******l College to ensure stability and representation to all states. With a Popular V**e, only 3 states would be required to elect the President.
California, New York, and Illinois could do it. All big Democrat-run. The rest of America will not have a say.
The C****es are loving it.

“We only got the Constitution because the Constitutional Convention persuaded the states to enter into a federation arrangement,” Allen Guelzo, a history professor at Gettysburg College, said. “Federalism is in the bones of our nation, and I would be concerned that we can’t start removing bones without the whole body collapsing.”

The panel, titled “The Fight to Preserve the E*******l College,” featured Guelzo as well as Trent England, executive vice president of the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs, and Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at Heritage.

The National Popular V**e Interstate Compact is a legislative partnership among states that agree to award all their e*******l v**es in future e******ns to whichever candidate wins the national popular v**e, disregarding the results of b****ts cast in each individual state.

The compact would take effect only once enough states join to determine an e******n by awarding all 270 e*******l v**es needed to secure a p**********l win.

So far, 15 states and the District of Columbia have joined the compact. Lobbyists actively are looking to expand the agreement to more states whose leaders were upset by the results of the 2016 e******n, when Republican Donald T***p w*n the presidency despite losing the national popular v**e to Democrat Hillary Clinton.
https://www.nationalpopularv**e.com/state-status Seems the left is more dedicated to k*****g America then the Right are to saving it.

Guelzo argued that the E*******l College slows down p**********l e******ns by design, providing legitimacy to the presidency and combating v***r f***d.

“The E*******l College embodies a fundamental instinct of the Founders, which is to say ‘slow down,’” he said, adding that “gridlock is not actually an accident.”

The history professor pushed back on objections to the E*******l College, including by some analysts who have argued that the current system violates the principle of one person, one v**e.

“If one man, one v**e is to be the rule, then as soon as a president loses popular support we ought to have another v**e,” Guelzo said. “So we could have p**********l e******ns every six months, three months, eight months—every time there’s an unpleasant tweet.”

England based his arguments on the 2000 e******n when Republican George W. Bush lost the national v**e to Democrat Al Gore and a recount in Florida for that state’s e*******l v**e threatened to decide who sits in the Oval Office.

“This is not just going on in blue states, this is going on across the country,” England said of the movement to bypass the e*******l college. “This is a serious threat wherever you live. Red state, purple state, there are people there lobbying to hijack the E*******l College.”

England said the movement for states to bypass the E*******l College without going through the difficult process of amending the Constitution gained renewed strength after the 2016 e******n.

Grassroots activists and lobbying organizations, he said, are driving a message that misleads many v**ers about the facts of the current e*******l system.

Von Spakovsky, manager of Heritage’s E******n Law Reform Initiative, turned to v****g numbers to argue that rural areas would be left behind if the E*******l College were abolished.

“The whole point of the E*******l College is to balance the states’ demands for greater representation and sovereignty against the risk of what James Madison liked to call the tyranny of the majority,” von Spakovsky said.

Looking again at the 2000 e******n, he warned that without the E*******l College, the chaos that v**ers and the nation at large experienced during the Florida recount would be extended to every state and county across the nation, as candidates demanded recounts in every region that potentially could sway an e******n in their favor.

As a result, von Spakovsky said, the decisions of the president would be seen as illegitimate by significant portions of the nation, and v***r f***d would run rampant in areas unprepared to deal with it.

“What we’ve had for over 200 years with the E*******l College system is unbelievable stability,” he said.

“There is no reason to change it now.”

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/11/08/popular-v**e-movement-would-shift-power-to-big-cities-experts-warn/
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