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Nov 8, 2019 11:03:53   #
Kevyn
 
Giuliani is up to his beady eyeballs in Trumps Ukrainian extortion racket and has seen how quickly his boss is willing to throw his minions under the bus to save his own skin. Do you think Trump can trust Rudy, or will he roll over on Donny Five Chins to keep his own guilty ass out of the joint?

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Nov 8, 2019 11:05:16   #
Lonewolf
 
Kevyn wrote:
Giuliani is up to his beady eyeballs in Trumps Ukrainian extortion racket and has seen how quickly his boss is willing to throw his minions under the bus to save his own skin. Do you think Trump can trust Rudy, or will he roll over on Donny Five Chins to keep his own guilty ass out of the joint?


Rudy is the weak link in the chain of crooks under trump barr might be next!

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Nov 8, 2019 11:39:39   #
waltmoreno
 
Kevyn wrote:
Giuliani is up to his beady eyeballs in Trumps Ukrainian extortion racket and has seen how quickly his boss is willing to throw his minions under the bus to save his own skin. Do you think Trump can trust Rudy, or will he roll over on Donny Five Chins to keep his own guilty ass out of the joint?


Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm aware of is where a certain VP threatened to withhold a cool billion dollars in aid UNLESS a certain prosecutor who was investigating a certain company which was also paying the VP's son $50K/month was fired before the VP left the country in the next 6 hours. Was the prosecutor fired? In the words of the VP, "Well son of a bitch. He got fired."
THAT'S a slam dunk case of an illegal quid pro quo!
The current case is really about a disagreement over policy by disgruntled Deep State neverTrumpers. Who reported their disagreement with the contents of a phone call between the President and the president of Ukraine. Which Trump already knew would be monitored by at least 6 other people. These disgruntled employees sought out the assistance of a neverTrump attorney who openly advertised for so called whistleblower clients. And his social media is replete with references to impeaching Trump years before this incident.
Only the President makes policy. Not an employee. Their OPINION about the conversation is irrelevant. We've already got the transcript of the phone call. And BTW, the whistleblower protection statute specifically DOES NOT apply to providing information on the President.

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Nov 8, 2019 11:49:04   #
proud republican Loc: Rocking USA!!!
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm aware of is where a certain VP threatened to withhold a cool billion dollars in aid UNLESS a certain prosecutor who was investigating a certain company which was also paying the VP's son $50K/month was fired before the VP left the country in the next 6 hours. Was the prosecutor fired? In the words of the VP, "Well son of a bitch. He got fired."
THAT'S a slam dunk case of an illegal quid pro quo!
The current case is really about a disagreement over policy by disgruntled Deep State neverTrumpers. Who reported their disagreement with the contents of a phone call between the President and the president of Ukraine. Which Trump already knew would be monitored by at least 6 other people. These disgruntled employees sought out the assistance of a neverTrump attorney who openly advertised for so called whistleblower clients. And his social media is replete with references to impeaching Trump years before this incident.
Only the President makes policy. Not an employee. Their OPINION about the conversation is irrelevant. We've already got the transcript of the phone call. And BTW, the whistleblower protection statute specifically DOES NOT apply to providing information on the President.
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm awar... (show quote)



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Nov 8, 2019 16:14:44   #
Lonewolf
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm aware of is where a certain VP threatened to withhold a cool billion dollars in aid UNLESS a certain prosecutor who was investigating a certain company which was also paying the VP's son $50K/month was fired before the VP left the country in the next 6 hours. Was the prosecutor fired? In the words of the VP, "Well son of a bitch. He got fired."
THAT'S a slam dunk case of an illegal quid pro quo!
The current case is really about a disagreement over policy by disgruntled Deep State neverTrumpers. Who reported their disagreement with the contents of a phone call between the President and the president of Ukraine. Which Trump already knew would be monitored by at least 6 other people. These disgruntled employees sought out the assistance of a neverTrump attorney who openly advertised for so called whistleblower clients. And his social media is replete with references to impeaching Trump years before this incident.
Only the President makes policy. Not an employee. Their OPINION about the conversation is irrelevant. We've already got the transcript of the phone call. And BTW, the whistleblower protection statute specifically DOES NOT apply to providing information on the President.
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm awar... (show quote)

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Nov 8, 2019 16:17:38   #
Lonewolf
 
We don't have a transcript of the phone call we have a little bit of it that Trump released but we don't have the whole phone call phone calls over 30 minutes long.
I know Trump stupid but I wouldn't expect him to release the whole call.
Testimony we're hearing before Congress right now is the parts of the call Trump doesn't want you to know about the part where a black male the president of the Ukraine you get dirt on a political opponent that's all it was about. Look at Trump's life business history and tell me with a straight gives a crap about corruption

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Nov 8, 2019 16:25:29   #
woodguru
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm aware of is where a certain VP threatened to withhold a cool billion dollars in aid UNLESS a certain prosecutor who was investigating a certain company which was also paying the VP's son $50K/month was fired before the VP left the country in the next 6 hours. Was the prosecutor fired? In the words of the VP, "Well son of a bitch. He got fired."
THAT'S a slam dunk case of an illegal quid pro quo!
The current case is really about a disagreement over policy by disgruntled Deep State neverTrumpers. Who reported their disagreement with the contents of a phone call between the President and the president of Ukraine. Which Trump already knew would be monitored by at least 6 other people. These disgruntled employees sought out the assistance of a neverTrump attorney who openly advertised for so called whistleblower clients. And his social media is replete with references to impeaching Trump years before this incident.
Only the President makes policy. Not an employee. Their OPINION about the conversation is irrelevant. We've already got the transcript of the phone call. And BTW, the whistleblower protection statute specifically DOES NOT apply to providing information on the President.
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm awar... (show quote)

I guess you were so caught up in the Biden part of this you missed the part where trump was withholding $400 million in military aid?

This case got so far away from being about the phone call you need to take in some of what is being said by trump administration people. It doesn't matter who appointed these people, they had a job to do and they are willing to talk about what went on.

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Nov 8, 2019 16:29:57   #
woodguru
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Whaddya talkin' about? The only extortion I'm aware of....

That right there is classic right wing ignorance, you don't know anything else, nor do you even want to know anything else, you have made up your mind.
...you are undoubtedly content with the rhetoric you know and anything else would confuse you.

Meanwhile if you don't want to follow evidence and a picture of what happened, please keep your ignorance to yourself.

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Nov 8, 2019 17:00:18   #
Lonewolf
 
Where is the GOP ever going to find enough sand so that republicans can bury their heads in it and not hear the evidence provening the corruption in the White House

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Nov 8, 2019 20:27:00   #
waltmoreno
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We don't have a transcript of the phone call we have a little bit of it that Trump released but we don't have the whole phone call phone calls over 30 minutes long.
I know Trump stupid but I wouldn't expect him to release the whole call.
Testimony we're hearing before Congress right now is the parts of the call Trump doesn't want you to know about the part where a black male the president of the Ukraine you get dirt on a political opponent that's all it was about. Look at Trump's life business history and tell me with a straight gives a crap about corruption
We don't have a transcript of the phone call we ha... (show quote)


This is like when you neverTrumper progs were complaining when you got 99% of the Mueller report. “We need to see the WHOLE report”, they cried, somehow believing that those few missing words might magically transform “no collusion, no obstruction”, into “Guilty of Russian collusion and obstruction too”!
And when they got every last word of the Mueller report the progs then demanded Mueller testify in person. And he came across like a doddering, incompetent dud.
It’s always just that one more scrap of elusive info you need to put the final nail in Trump’s coffin. HAH!!!

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Nov 8, 2019 20:39:30   #
waltmoreno
 
woodguru wrote:
I guess you were so caught up in the Biden part of this you missed the part where trump was withholding $400 million in military aid?

This case got so far away from being about the phone call you need to take in some of what is being said by trump administration people. It doesn't matter who appointed these people, they had a job to do and they are willing to talk about what went on.


You can’t seem to accept the FACT that Zelensky said he didn’t feel pressured, that he wasn’t aware any aid had been with held, THAT HE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO GET THE AID, and that the aid was subsequently received. Hence, no quid, no pro, and no quo.
And we already have the transcript of the conversation.
The opinion of some disgruntled neverTrumper about their take on the conversation is 100% irrelevant. They really need to get another job if they don’t wanna be loyal to their employer. Maybe Comey or Brennan can hire them.

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Nov 8, 2019 22:00:23   #
Lonewolf
 
waltmoreno wrote:
This is like when you neverTrumper progs were complaining when you got 99% of the Mueller report. “We need to see the WHOLE report”, they cried, somehow believing that those few missing words might magically transform “no collusion, no obstruction”, into “Guilty of Russian collusion and obstruction too”!
And when they got every last word of the Mueller report the progs then demanded Mueller testify in person. And he came across like a doddering, incompetent dud.
It’s always just that one more scrap of elusive info you need to put the final nail in Trump’s coffin. HAH!!!
This is like when you neverTrumper progs were comp... (show quote)


We are still waiting for rest of the muller rerport

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Nov 8, 2019 22:03:28   #
Lonewolf
 
waltmoreno wrote:
You can’t seem to accept the FACT that Zelensky said he didn’t feel pressured, that he wasn’t aware any aid had been with held, THAT HE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO GET THE AID, and that the aid was subsequently received. Hence, no quid, no pro, and no quo.
And we already have the transcript of the conversation.
The opinion of some disgruntled neverTrumper about their take on the conversation is 100% irrelevant. They really need to get another job if they don’t wanna be loyal to their employer. Maybe Comey or Brennan can hire them.
You can’t seem to accept the FACT that Zelensky sa... (show quote)


The transcript your talking about only covers a tiny bit of the call the part trump wanted us to see! The missing part is ware he blackmailed the Ukraine president

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Nov 9, 2019 06:12:39   #
Tug484
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We don't have a transcript of the phone call we have a little bit of it that Trump released but we don't have the whole phone call phone calls over 30 minutes long.
I know Trump stupid but I wouldn't expect him to release the whole call.
Testimony we're hearing before Congress right now is the parts of the call Trump doesn't want you to know about the part where a black male the president of the Ukraine you get dirt on a political opponent that's all it was about. Look at Trump's life business history and tell me with a straight gives a crap about corruption
We don't have a transcript of the phone call we ha... (show quote)


The call had interpreters. That's why it was 30 minutes.
Geez!

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Nov 9, 2019 08:51:57   #
rjoeholl
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The transcript your talking about only covers a tiny bit of the call the part trump wanted us to see! The missing part is ware he blackmailed the Ukraine president


If it's missing how the hell do you know what's in it?

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