The Equal Rights Amendment: Since Virgina has gone blue, it is expected they will pass the ERA. Technically, it had to be ratified by June of 1982, but I bet they extend the time to...

marinevet73

Since Virgina has gone blue, it is expected they will pass the ERA. Technically, it had to be ratified by June of 1982, but I bet they extend the time to ratify.

This was first proposed in 1923, shortly after women were given the right to v**e. It was ratified by the Senate in March of 1982. If Virginia adopts the resolution it will be the 38th state to pass the future amendment, which means it should become the 28th Amendment to the constitution.

That should officially move women out of being chattel, which was their status st the time of drafting of the constitution. Give women the right to v**e and they go crazy, just like the conservatives were saying back when women were allowed to v**e. The centennial for that happens next year.

It's only taken 42 years to get the ERA added. That shows the power of the conservative arm of the Republican party.

Kevyn

marinevet73 wrote:

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It is both amazing and saddening to see how many American women have been brainwashed into voluntarily accepting living in servitude under the puritanical patriarchal cage foisted upon them by conservative ideology. Hopefully the Virginia e******n is the beginning of a sea change that will purge our nation of this poisonous nonsense for good.

bylm1-Bernie

Kevyn wrote:

It is both amazing and saddening to see how many American women have been brainwashed into voluntarily accepting living in servitude under the puritanical patriarchal cage foisted upon them by conservative ideology. Hopefully the Virginia e******n is the beginning of a sea change that will purge our nation of this poisonous nonsense for good.

That, my friend Kevyn, is purely BS. There is no voluntary servitude nor is there any oppression of women. If there were either, AOC and squad would never have been elected. "A puritanical, patriarchal cage?" You libs slay me. You can't see your hand in front of your face. The only cage that is being foisted is that brought by the Democrats to convince women to k**l their children and let aliens into our Country illegally. When will you wake up? When it's too late?

marinevet73

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

That, my friend Kevyn, is purely BS. There is no voluntary servitude nor is there any oppression of women. If there were either, AOC and squad would never have been elected. "A puritanical, patriarchal cage?" You libs slay me. You can't see your hand in front of your face. The only cage that is being foisted is that brought by the Democrats to convince women to k**l their children and let aliens into our Country illegally. When will you wake up? When it's too late?

Maybe you could explain why women weren't considered a person when the constitution was drafted. Can you also explain why women didn't get the right to v**e until 1920? Would you also explain why the ERA wasn't adopted when it was first introduced in 1923, or why it has been 48 years since the bill was adopted by the Senate, but still hasn't become an amendment to the constitution?

Of course, your response will clearly affirm your previous post. I am anxiously awaiting your answes to these questions.

bylm1-Bernie

Repling to marinevet:

Maybe I could explain what the thinking was 250 years ago, or even 100 years ago, but I'm talking about now!--2019. I don't see those conditions today. In fact, what I have seen over my 80+ years is vast changes in women's rights and their status in politics, business, the Church and virtually every other area of civil activity. If you can't see that, then nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.

marinevet73

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Repling to marinevet:

Maybe I could explain what the thinking was 250 years ago, or even 100 years ago, but I'm talking about now!--2019. I don't see those conditions today. In fact, what I have seen over my 80+ years is vast changes in women's rights and their status in politics, business, the Church and virtually every other area of civil activity. If you can't see that, then nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.

I agree with you that women's rights have improved over the years, but I still think it is interesting that the 13 states that haven't adopted the ERA are almost all southern states. I am sure that there are still cases of discrimination happening in the US even in 2019. While the ERA was first introduced in 1923, by 2019 it still hasn't been adopted by 38 states, yet. That tells me that 2/3 rds if the US haven't accepted it as the norm, yet.

Just because in 2019 things are generally better than previously, I don't think it is still ideal. Any women want to comment on this?

Radiance3

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Repling to marinevet:

Maybe I could explain what the thinking was 250 years ago, or even 100 years ago, but I'm talking about now!--2019. I don't see those conditions today. In fact, what I have seen over my 80+ years is vast changes in women's rights and their status in politics, business, the Church and virtually every other area of civil activity. If you can't see that, then nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.

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Fact of the matter is women's rights today have been overused.
A******n is one of them. They claimed it is their body, and can do anything to mutilate the fetus inside their wombs. Or even when born alive, to k**l them and sell the baby parts. These abortive women are mostly democrats and liberals.
Fortunately, none among the republicans/conservatives do that.
God made man and woman to produce and replenish the earth.
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-28.htm

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

That, my friend Kevyn, is purely BS. There is no voluntary servitude nor is there any oppression of women. If there were either, AOC and squad would never have been elected. "A puritanical, patriarchal cage?" You libs slay me. You can't see your hand in front of your face. The only cage that is being foisted is that brought by the Democrats to convince women to k**l their children and let aliens into our Country illegally. When will you wake up? When it's too late?

Probably. My wife, mother, niece, grandniece, 2 nurse/aides and other family all know that I would die for them.

Cuda2020

Kevyn wrote:

It is both amazing and saddening to see how many American women have been brainwashed into voluntarily accepting living in servitude under the puritanical patriarchal cage foisted upon them by conservative ideology. Hopefully the Virginia e******n is the beginning of a sea change that will purge our nation of this poisonous nonsense for good.

Agreed, it’s way past due along with equal pay. It’s too bad they don’t see the all around benefits of it.

bylm1-Bernie

Barracuda2020 wrote:

Agreed, it’s way past due along with equal pay. It’s too bad they don’t see the all around benefits of it.

Maybe you should do a little research on the subject of equal pay. There is much out there which will render that myth of no use to the left.

Cuda2020

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Maybe you should do a little research on the subject of equal pay. There is much out there which will render that myth of no use to the left.

No myth, we’re still not there yet.

marinevet73

Radiance3 wrote:

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A woman has a right to have control over her body. If some guy, under any circumstances , impregnated a women, and walks away from the pregnancy that is fine for society. If a woman takes control of her body and says no, I do not want the pregame, she has that right.

Women face several issues after pregnancy, including post partum depression. In rare instances infanticide happens. It is a rare instance. Conservatives have built a lot of bs stories about it.

Yep, women now have the "Me Too" movement. That is solely because of a bunch of a$$holes abuding their positions. I'm not sure that is a positive thing.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

marinevet73 wrote:

A woman has a right to have control over her body. If some guy, under any circumstances , impregnated a women, and walks away from the pregnancy that is fine for society. If a woman takes control of her body and says no, I do not want the pregame, she has that right.

Society has guidelines to ensure that both men and women are responsible for their children...

A man failing to raise his child is never "fine with society"...

If a woman doesn't want the responsibility of a child she should not engage in activities that would lead to that conclusion...

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Women face several issues after pregnancy, including post partum depression. In rare instances infanticide happens. It is a rare instance. Conservatives have built a lot of bs stories about it.

Yep... There are always issues... Can be hard raising kids... Guess it's ok to snuff them if I decide one day that I don't want to pay college tuition, no?

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Yep, women now have the "Me Too" movement. That is solely because of a bunch of a$$holes abuding their positions. I'm not sure that is a positive thing.

The #MeToo movement belongs to both men and women... And for the most part is pathetic... It exists because it has been hijacked by a party seeking to use it to boost their own position...

marinevet73

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

The #MeToo movement belongs to both men and women... And for the most part is pathetic... It exists because it has been hijacked by a party seeking to use it to boost their own position...

Do you really believe that society puts the same onus on a man who waiks away from a pregnancy as it does a woman? That is pure bs. A woman is stuck with the issue for life. The guy just has a guilty conscience, maybe, if he walks away. That is a significant difference.

If what you said were true, men would have the same disrespect you seem to be assigning a woman who has an a******n. That clearly isn't the case.

So "Me Two" is because a party is hijacking it to boost their position? I rest my case for the need for the ERA to become the 28th Amendment. You need to be forced to face reality. IMO, "Me Too" is because women are tired of being abused.

Virginia has committed to passing the ERA, and it will become the 28th Amendment. Clearly not soon enough.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

marinevet73 wrote:

Do you really believe that society puts the same o... (show quote)

I have absolutely no issue with Virginia passing the ERA...

I attach exactly the same stigmas to men who fail their children as I do to women...

You realize that men are also forced to be responsible for their children, no?

And that men have come out and voiced their stories of suffering abuse as well, no? MeToo is not just about women....

You seem to want to fight rather than discuss this issue... Why?