Lindsey Graham claims Trump is too incompetent to pull off a quid pro quo
Nov 6, 2019 17:06:16 #
I don't know if Lindsey noticed but Trump didn't pull off a quid pro quo proving his hypothesis about Trumps stupidity correct. But being too stupid to pull off blackmailing the president of Ukraine doesn't mean Trump shouldn't be impeached though. If anything, stupidity is just one more of the reasons Trump has to go. So thanks Lindsey for stating the obvious but you only built the case for impeachment, not detracted from it, so we appreciate your input...thanks a lot.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/876854/lindsey-graham-claims-trump-incompetent-pull-quid-pro-quo
https://theweek.com/speedreads/876854/lindsey-graham-claims-trump-incompetent-pull-quid-pro-quo
Nov 6, 2019 17:08:51 #
PeterS wrote:
I don't know if Lindsey noticed but Trump didn't p... (show quote)
It's getting too deep. I hope you're wearing your hip waders.
Nov 6, 2019 17:14:39 #
proud republican
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PeterS wrote:
I don't know if Lindsey noticed but Trump didn't p... (show quote)
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!! I don't believe you for a moment that Lindsey Graham would say something like this!!
Nov 6, 2019 17:40:39 #
proud republican wrote:
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!! I don't believe you for a moment that Lindsey Graham would say something like this!!
he did and we knew this all along
Nov 6, 2019 17:49:44 #
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
It's getting too deep. I hope you're wearing your hip waders.
You really don't pay attention, do you? Trump is going to be the one needing hip waders as there are enough people set to testify against him to ensure that he drowns!
Nov 6, 2019 17:55:04 #
proud republican wrote:
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!! I don't believe you for a moment that Lindsey Graham would say something like this!!
F**e news? You didn't even open the link. I know this because had you done so you could have heard Lindsey as he spoke the quote.
And are you saying that Trump IS smart enough to pull off a quid pro quo? If he is why wasn't he able to do so in this instance???
Nov 6, 2019 18:13:46 #
Lonewolf wrote:
he did and we knew this all along
I love how they run around screaming F**E NEWS when they don't even read the article or watched the attached video where Lindsey is saying what they claim he would never say. Talk about brainwashing, this is why conservatives are so easy to manipulate because they read nothing and listen to only what their handlers tell them to listen to. They have been conned into believing lies and then they knowingly nod their heads along as if they understand what is being said.
Trump is the most incompetent and corrupt president that has ever held the office and conservatives are so naive that they can't even see how they are being manipulated into believing and to support his lies.
Nov 7, 2019 11:12:43 #
proud republican wrote:
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!!
OMG! Miss Lindsey's televised statement was on all the news outlets--except Fox, obviously.
Nov 7, 2019 13:15:33 #
proud republican wrote:
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!! I don't believe you for a moment that Lindsey Graham would say something like this!!
You really should start thinking like an American instead of a Republican. It ain't the same party it used to be when guys like Ike, George Aiken, Wendell Wilkie, Dean Davis, Tom Dewey and Dick Nixon were the face of the Republican Party.
Nov 7, 2019 13:50:33 #
PeterS wrote:
I opened the link, I read it and I watched the video. F**e news? You didn't even open the link. I know this because had you done so you could have heard Lindsey as he spoke the quote.
And are you saying that Trump IS smart enough to pull off a quid pro quo? If he is why wasn't he able to do so in this instance???
And are you saying that Trump IS smart enough to pull off a quid pro quo? If he is why wasn't he able to do so in this instance???
"The whole process is a joke. The whole idea that there’s a quid pro quo based on somebody changing their testimony presuming there was," Graham told reporters, adding that he had no plans of reading the transcript of Sondland's testimony, which was released on Tuesday.
"This is a political vendetta," Graham added. "What I can tell you about the Trump policy toward Ukraine. It was incoherent. It depends on who you talk to; they seem to be incapable of forming a quid pro quo."
"You just pick things you like," Graham said, apparently referencing the media. "Y’all h**e this guy, you want to get him impeached. I’m not buying into [House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.)] running a legitimate operation over there."
Quid pro quo, a 14th-century Latin term for "something for something," describes when two parties engage in a mutual agreement to exchange goods or services. ... In business and legal contexts, quid pro quo conveys that a good or service has been exchanged for something of equal value. In financial terms, a quid pro quo is a mutual agreement between parties that gives consideration to each member of the party in exchange for the goods or services which they have each benefited from receiving. It is similar to an exchange deal in which one company uses the services of another company in exchange for that business’s products. The literal meaning of “Quid Pro Quo” in Latin is “something for something”. The emphasis in a quid pro quo arrangement is on equal value of the goods or services offered by each party to the other.
The old quid pro quo is a fundamental tool in business and government relations.
How many years has Donald Trump engaged in business?
Nov 7, 2019 14:03:51 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I opened the link, I read it and I watched the vid... (show quote)
Nations do engage in Quid pro Quo. If I recall my Latin (and I finished that in 1948 so I may be a bit rusty) it t***slates as "this for that." So for instance, around 1940 or so, with war a strong possibility for anybody with eyes to see and ears to hear, we found 50 old 4 stack destroyers and gave them to Britain, (Quid) for (pro) a lease on land in Bermuda to build a military base. (Quo) This was for the benefit of the United States. This was NOT for getting FDR re elected. In fact, at that time, it might have lost him the e******n, tho' Wendell Wilkie did not win in November. In the case of this Quid pro Quo in the Ukraine, there is some evidence that it is not for the benefit of the United States, but only to benefit the President. This needs to be investigated. If the charges are false, then Trump should want it to be investigated (Impeachment Inquiry) so that he can be cleared.
Nov 7, 2019 14:37:52 #
greenmountaineer wrote:
Nations do engage in Quid pro Quo. If I recall my... (show quote)
But, but, but His Imperial Majesty has said he is above not only prosecution, but investigation as well.
Nov 7, 2019 14:42:03 #
proud republican wrote:
F**E NEWS!! Prove that Sen Graham said this!!! I don't believe you for a moment that Lindsey Graham would say something like this!!
It was on the air, stop with the prove it BS, your ignorance and blind support is getting tiring.
Lindsey Graham is saying some truly i***tic things, his take on impeachment changes on a daily basis. To hang your beliefs on anything Graham has been saying or not saying is very dim.
Nov 7, 2019 14:49:30 #
greenmountaineer wrote:
Nations do engage in Quid pro Quo. If I recall my... (show quote)
Actually there is direct reality based proof that what trump did withholding military aid to the Ukraine benefitted Putin hugely, the delay kept Ukrainian forces from having high tech anti tank weapons that would have played hell with Russian tanks. We have the reality results evidence that the Ukraine was forced to retreat because they did not have the weapons they needed. One man and one unexplained policy stood in the way of military aid that was blocked in behind the scenes moves that were not done through official channels.
Foreign policies can be about pressuring for results, but they need to be done through official channels with a consensus of the experts and relevant intelligence pertaining to national security interests, and what Giuliani was doing for trump was not in national interests.
Nov 7, 2019 14:57:52 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
br Quid pro quo, a 14th-century Latin term for &q... (show quote)
The language pertaining to mutual agreements is the relevant thing that makes what happened extortion.
The Ukraine did not want to be involved in anything that would affect the e******n, and testimony is coming out that supports this.
Trump wanted the president to make a public media announcement of what they would be investigating, before releasing military aid...meanwhile Russia was setting up for a tank assault on the eastern Ukraine.
Do you think Trump was aware of this, does it seem possible that Putin in a call around the same time was telling Trump to hold off aid, that he didn't want his tanks being hammered by US high tech anti tank weapons?
What trump did to the Ukraine holding up military aid against the wishes of congress, the state department, the pentagon, and intelligence stinks of treason against the enemy of our ally.
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