Religious question!! (Page 59): I'm off to bed... But if you're truly interested I would be happy to provide my understanding of those verses in the morning :sm24: :sm07: Have a...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Rose42 wrote:

No not confirmation bias. The basics are seen by... (show quote)

I'm off to bed...

But if you're truly interested I would be happy to provide my understanding of those verses in the morning

Have a blessed day...

Just talked to my mother... My grandmother is three weeks past the date the doctors had set for her... And the bleeding has stopped... She is still intermittent in her lucidity... But still claims to be in no pain...

God is good...

And I have never worried about anyone going to hell... God judges us all... And He is just... Amen...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

You don't know your bible very well rumi. Your doctrines are out in left field.\

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

Kind of jumped the gun on that one, eh

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Kind of jumped the gun on that one, eh

Came in late in the game. I replied to it when I read it and I was about three pages behind because it had been awhile since I was online. Up to speed now.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

Came in late in the game. I replied to it when I read it and I was about three pages behind because it had been awhile since I was online. Up to speed now.

I do that all the time

Glad your still with us

Radiance3

Parky60 wrote:

You don't know your bible very well rumi. Your doctrines are out in left field.\

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

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That is beautiful Parky. Now our discussion again is back to faith. That faith in God which is the most important part of our lives. The Spirit who is always with us wherever we go. That Spirit is with the Blessed Trinity.
John 14:16,27
And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; The Holy Trinity clearly explained in John 14 and John 1.

I recently had experience that the Holy Spirit is always with me, and so to all of you who have faith. But that's a personal experience I may later reveal.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Kind of jumped the gun on that one, eh

It often happens that a member will get an email notification that someone has responded to a watched topic or that someone has replied to one's comment. This will prompt a poster to jump onto a thread and, rather than follow the thread in its entirety, insert a comment that has already been posted in so many words.

Galatians 5:22-23 has now been quoted at least three times in response to the same comment.

JediKnight

Radiance3 wrote:

============ br i That is beautiful Parky. Now ou... (show quote)

If you are a repentant believer and follower of Christ, the Holy Spirit resides within you....no personal experiences are necessary -its the same for all believers.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Blade_Runner wrote:

It often happens that a member will get an email notification that someone has responded to a watched topic or that someone has replied to one's comment. This will prompt a poster to jump onto a thread and, rather than follow the thread in its entirety, insert a comment that has already been posted in so many words.

Galatians 5:22-23 has now been quoted at least three times in response to the same comment.

The forum will email notifications to responses to back particular reply?

Does that option work for specific replies? Like an option one must choose? Or is it something on the main menu that will automatically include all responses to all replies?

Be fair...Galatians 5:22-23 is one of the better ones

Rose42

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I'm off to bed... br br But if you're truly inte... (show quote)

Sure but I will have to go back and see what those verses are. This thread is all over the place. Lol

Good news for your grandmother - that she is in no pain. If she doesn’t know Christ I pray she comes to know him and his peace.

PeterS

Blade_Runner wrote:

What’s the difference between a conservative and a... (show quote)

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideology. I'm trying to explain why we do something and you are sitting trying to tell us we are different because one s**t's red and the other s**t's blue. The color of our s**t is irrelevant...Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive. THAT is why we are different in ALL of our views.

Liberals will NEVER adhere to a single status quo. Conservatives ALWAYS seek out the status quo...either current or past and doggedly try to stick to it. "Make American Great Again." Here you are seeking out a past status quo. "Keep America Great." Here you are trying to maintain a current status quo--one that can only exist if you are in control. (That's a topic beyond this discussion)

To a liberal progressive America's greatness is achieved when we live up to the promises of our founding documents. The Civil War, as horrid as it was, helped us to live up to our promise of e******y. Child labor laws, as well as unions and all labor laws, anti-monopoly laws--ALL added another plank to America's greatness.

Add to that; the v**e for women, the end to Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement of the 50's and 60's, and the women movement. Top it off with SS and medicare and all are progressive movements--movements that you conservatives largely fought tooth and nail. Why? Because as you always do, you were trying to maintain the status quo. Why? Because due to your ideology you are politically regressive and even something as small as a plastic straw will cause you to extend your claws and cause you to dig in as tightly as you possibly can to resist any kind of movement to change.

To liberals, we are always going to move forward and seldom is it going to be neat and tidy but generally messy and unseemly. FDR was famous for saying (to paraphrase) he was willing to try a dozen things if only one might work. And he did, with many failures, but the success kept this nation together during one of its most trying times. THAT'S liberalism. It's a messy process but look at the accomplishments! This nation was BORN of liberalism and ironically, even today, economically you conservatives adhere to Classical Liberalism...again, a past status quo.

I don't care about the color of our s**t Blade. If you could turn back time to 1776 that's where conservatives would stay. Status quo is where conservatives gain their security. Well, piss on the status quo; for us liberals, there were promises made and promises to keep. We are moving forward--we always have and always will--whether you conservatives like it or not!

The link below is the best book on Political Ideology that I've run across. Amazon has it dirt cheap but the link is to a PDF if that is how you roll. Blade you will never understand Liberals or Conservatives until you understand the WHY behind what we believe. You don't, so excuse me if I don't comment on the subjective trivialities of what you wrote.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318837732_Political_ideologies_Their_Origins_and_Impact_Twelfth_edition

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

PeterS wrote:

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideology. I'm trying to explain why we do something and you are sitting trying to tell us we are different because one s**t's red and the other s**t's blue. The color of our s**t is irrelevant...Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive. THAT is why we are different in ALL of our views.

Liberals will NEVER adhere to a single status quo. Conservatives ALWAYS seek out the status quo...either current or past and doggedly try to stick to it. "Make American Great Again." Here you are seeking out a past status quo. "Keep America Great." Here you are trying to maintain a current status quo--one that can only exist if you are in control. (That's a topic beyond this discussion)

To a liberal progressive America's greatness is achieved when we live up to the promises of our founding documents. The Civil War, as horrid as it was, helped us to live up to our promise of e******y. Child labor laws, as well as unions and all labor laws, anti-monopoly laws ALL added another plank to America's greatness.

Add to that; the v**e for women, the end to Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement of the 50's and 60's, and the women movement. Top it off with SS and medicare and all are progressive movements--movements that you conservatives largely fought tooth and nail. Why? Because as you always do, you were trying to maintain the status quo. Why? Because due to your ideology you are politically regressive and even something as small as a plastic straw will cause you to extend your claws and cause you to dig in as tightly as you possibly can to resist any kind of movement to change.

To liberals, we are always going to move forward and seldom is it going to be neat and tidy but generally messy and unseemly. FDR was famous for saying (to paraphrase) he was willing to try a dozen things if only one might work. And he did, with many failures, but the success kept this nation together during one of its most trying times. THAT'S liberalism. It's a messy process but look at the accomplishments! This nation was BORN of liberalism and ironically, even today, economically you conservatives adhere to Classical Liberalism...again, a past status quo.

I don't care about the color of our s**t Blade. If you could turn back time to 1776 that's where conservatives would stay. Status quo is where conservatives gain their security. Well, piss on the status quo; for us liberals, there were promises made and promises to keep. We are moving forward--we always have and always will--whether you conservatives like it or not!

The link below is the best book on Political Ideology that I've run across. Amazon has it dirt cheap but the link is to a PDF if that is how you roll. Blade you will never understand Liberals or Conservatives until you understand the WHY behind what we believe. You don't, so excuse me if I don't comment on the subjective trivialities of what you wrote.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318837732_Political_ideologies_Their_Origins_and_Impact_Twelfth_edition

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideo... (show quote)

I put no stock in your lectures on political ideologies, you present them from a subjective ideological perspective that is uncompromising and dogmatic, biased in the extreme. IOW, you are an ideologue. The statement that "Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive" is a blatantly false premise.

The "subjective trivialities" I posted are the result of an analysis by political scientists with no dog in the hunt. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the basic differences between conservatism and progressivism. Even a cursory study of Marxist philosophy provides a working picture of progressive ideology. OTH, a study of the values and political perspective of our founding fathers provides a clear understanding of conservatism.

All we hear these days is right this and left that, conservative this and liberal that - right, left, right, left, ignoring all the while the vertical dimension. If we don't get the vertical dimension of why we are here, what it means to be human, will we ever know that humans have intrinsic worth? We argue incessantly about human rights and never discuss our right to be human.

The subject of this thread is the vertical dimension. God is awesome, God is eternal, unchanging, all knowing, God was, is and always will be the "status quo". Nothing you can say or do will ever change that.

Rose42

PeterS wrote:

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideology. I'm trying to explain why we do something and you are sitting trying to tell us we are different because one s**t's red and the other s**t's blue. The color of our s**t is irrelevant...Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive. THAT is why we are different in ALL of our views.

Liberals will NEVER adhere to a single status quo. Conservatives ALWAYS seek out the status quo...either current or past and doggedly try to stick to it. "Make American Great Again." Here you are seeking out a past status quo. "Keep America Great." Here you are trying to maintain a current status quo--one that can only exist if you are in control. (That's a topic beyond this discussion)

To a liberal progressive America's greatness is achieved when we live up to the promises of our founding documents. The Civil War, as horrid as it was, helped us to live up to our promise of e******y. Child labor laws, as well as unions and all labor laws, anti-monopoly laws--ALL added another plank to America's greatness.

Add to that; the v**e for women, the end to Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement of the 50's and 60's, and the women movement. Top it off with SS and medicare and all are progressive movements--movements that you conservatives largely fought tooth and nail. Why? Because as you always do, you were trying to maintain the status quo. Why? Because due to your ideology you are politically regressive and even something as small as a plastic straw will cause you to extend your claws and cause you to dig in as tightly as you possibly can to resist any kind of movement to change.

To liberals, we are always going to move forward and seldom is it going to be neat and tidy but generally messy and unseemly. FDR was famous for saying (to paraphrase) he was willing to try a dozen things if only one might work. And he did, with many failures, but the success kept this nation together during one of its most trying times. THAT'S liberalism. It's a messy process but look at the accomplishments! This nation was BORN of liberalism and ironically, even today, economically you conservatives adhere to Classical Liberalism...again, a past status quo.

I don't care about the color of our s**t Blade. If you could turn back time to 1776 that's where conservatives would stay. Status quo is where conservatives gain their security. Well, piss on the status quo; for us liberals, there were promises made and promises to keep. We are moving forward--we always have and always will--whether you conservatives like it or not!

The link below is the best book on Political Ideology that I've run across. Amazon has it dirt cheap but the link is to a PDF if that is how you roll. Blade you will never understand Liberals or Conservatives until you understand the WHY behind what we believe. You don't, so excuse me if I don't comment on the subjective trivialities of what you wrote.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318837732_Political_ideologies_Their_Origins_and_Impact_Twelfth_edition

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideo... (show quote)

You are still wrong. So called “progressives” call what is good evil and what is evil good. Thats not progress, nor is celebrating sexual perversions in children, nor is condoning child abuse, nor is applauding 2300 innocents k**led per day, nor is wanting to restrict free speech, nor is political correctness...

I could keep going. You base everything on emotion. Conservatives aren’t perfect but to claim they’re regressive is simple dishonesty.

Radiance3

JediKnight wrote:

If you are a repentant believer and follower of Christ, the Holy Spirit resides within you....no personal experiences are necessary -its the same for all believers.

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JediK,you've misunderstood my statement about personal experience.
I was talking about the Holy Spirit that is in me. I have encountered a miracle where the Holy Spirit I believe had much to do with it. I had a miracle experience that happened to me on Nov. 1st, 2019, at 11:AM. If you want to know more, I have the detail of that, though I want it private.

The Holy Spirit resides to all of us who have deep faith in Christ.

Radiance3

PeterS wrote:

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideology. I'm trying to explain why we do something and you are sitting trying to tell us we are different because one s**t's red and the other s**t's blue. The color of our s**t is irrelevant...Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive. THAT is why we are different in ALL of our views.

Liberals will NEVER adhere to a single status quo. Conservatives ALWAYS seek out the status quo...either current or past and doggedly try to stick to it. "Make American Great Again." Here you are seeking out a past status quo. "Keep America Great." Here you are trying to maintain a current status quo--one that can only exist if you are in control. (That's a topic beyond this discussion)

To a liberal progressive America's greatness is achieved when we live up to the promises of our founding documents. The Civil War, as horrid as it was, helped us to live up to our promise of e******y. Child labor laws, as well as unions and all labor laws, anti-monopoly laws--ALL added another plank to America's greatness.

Add to that; the v**e for women, the end to Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement of the 50's and 60's, and the women movement. Top it off with SS and medicare and all are progressive movements--movements that you conservatives largely fought tooth and nail. Why? Because as you always do, you were trying to maintain the status quo. Why? Because due to your ideology you are politically regressive and even something as small as a plastic straw will cause you to extend your claws and cause you to dig in as tightly as you possibly can to resist any kind of movement to change.

To liberals, we are always going to move forward and seldom is it going to be neat and tidy but generally messy and unseemly. FDR was famous for saying (to paraphrase) he was willing to try a dozen things if only one might work. And he did, with many failures, but the success kept this nation together during one of its most trying times. THAT'S liberalism. It's a messy process but look at the accomplishments! This nation was BORN of liberalism and ironically, even today, economically you conservatives adhere to Classical Liberalism...again, a past status quo.

I don't care about the color of our s**t Blade. If you could turn back time to 1776 that's where conservatives would stay. Status quo is where conservatives gain their security. Well, piss on the status quo; for us liberals, there were promises made and promises to keep. We are moving forward--we always have and always will--whether you conservatives like it or not!

The link below is the best book on Political Ideology that I've run across. Amazon has it dirt cheap but the link is to a PDF if that is how you roll. Blade you will never understand Liberals or Conservatives until you understand the WHY behind what we believe. You don't, so excuse me if I don't comment on the subjective trivialities of what you wrote.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318837732_Political_ideologies_Their_Origins_and_Impact_Twelfth_edition

Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideo... (show quote)

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The Psychology of Progressive is Hostility. Other term for progressive is liberal.
Here is what happened. When you try to identify the faults or failures of the left or the progressives, they become defensive and hostile. Then they fight for that and stick to the wrong. Therefore they will never grow but regress in their lives.

By contrast, when pointing to a conservative about faults or failures, they are open to accept and correct. Conservatives consider it as a process of perfection or improvement. Progressive considers it as an attack or insult.

Conservatives have more ability to advance because by correcting the wrong, they learn and grow to perfection, by knowing their faults and correcting it. There's more humility in being conservative. That is why they are happier and more successful.

This is just one example, though there are many.

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

rumitoid wrote:

No fight is necessary: that is a false doctrine. "Be still, and know that I am God." “Be still' means to stop striving, stop fighting, relax. It also means to “put your hands down”. Trust in God or not. You said, "This battle is going to get stronger the closer we get to the end times!" Just the opposite.

Can you give me verses that back up those statements? We are taught to always fight against evil, to fight the good fight! If you study Revelation it will explain the battles and the evil that is coming. If you haven’t noticed, my favorite verse is “Be still and know that I am God!” This verse is a very special verse to me and has carried me through some of the worst times of my life. In 44 years of marriage my husband has been at deaths door three times, two of those times he wasn’t supposed to survive. For me that verse meant hang on, I’m right here beside you. When you can’t handle one more moment, I’ll handle it for you....when you can’t take one more step, I will carry you! Both of those times I was here in Alabama all by myself. The peace that overtook me was indescribable! I know what that verse means! It was a miracle that my husband survived and it was a miracle for the peace and comfort and love that He sheltered me with. Have you ever experienced that miracle? Be still and know that He is your God and He is My God and anyone’s God that calls out to Him in faith and belief !

Evil is all around us! That’s why we are to always put on our armor! Just turn on the news!!!!!