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Oct 30, 2019 01:42:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Don't forget that there are huge numbers of ministers, rabbis teachers and counselors who have been guilty of molestation and sexual abuse.
"Huge numbers"??? Care to clarify that with some stats.

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Oct 30, 2019 02:09:40   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
"Huge numbers"??? Care to clarify that with some stats.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction

Say it is 4% and there are a half million clergy outside of the Catholic Church, that would mean there are 20,000 sexual predators hiding in the ranks of our churches. So throw in the Catholic Chruch and that's why no child of mine ever went to church unescorted.

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Oct 30, 2019 03:33:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction

Say it is 4% and there are a half million clergy outside of the Catholic Church, that would mean there are 20,000 sexual predators hiding in the ranks of our churches. So throw in the Catholic Chruch and that's why no child of mine ever went to church unescorted.
And no thanks to Secular religions, there are 60 million mutilated dead American babies who have been burned to ashes or parts of them stored in PPH freezers.

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Oct 30, 2019 05:22:30   #
rebob14
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think that Catholic Priests should be able to get married??? Rabbis are allowed to get married as do other religious leaders !!! So why not Catholic Priests???? What do you guys think????


There is no theological reason for celibacy. It was instituted by a pope, whose name escapes me at the moment, who didn’t want to pay for the relocation of priests families during Medieval times. Constantine moved the church to Constantinople following the council of Nicea in the early fourth century. This bankrupted the Roman Church which had not yet established a presence in the European monarchies to share in ruling and fundraising. Celibacy was simply an austerity measure, but, because the pope sold it as God’s will they can’t justify changing the rule now!! The Bible actually defines the family as the correct and righteous lifestyle, but, the Roman Church teaches it’s own version..........which, of course, was (and is) the reason for The Reformation!

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Oct 30, 2019 05:39:18   #
jSmitty45
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think that Catholic Priests should be able to get married??? Rabbis are allowed to get married as do other religious leaders !!! So why not Catholic Priests???? What do you guys think????


Maybe if they married, they would stop their sick behavior as a pervert with children!

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Oct 30, 2019 06:20:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Maybe if they married, they would stop their sick behavior as a pervert with children!


Plenty of perverts among the Protestant denominations as well...

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Oct 30, 2019 06:37:40   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of NYC & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
Yes, that they aren't allowed to is why so many perverts have taken over their ranks.



Another sanctimonious completely unproved assertion from someone who specializes in them. See post immediately above. Remember Mark Twain's adage; better to say nothing and look stupid than to open your mouth & remove all doubt. Learn the truth before you start spouting off your nonsense.

BTW, PeterS, do you even practice any religion or is your God in your mirror?

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Oct 30, 2019 07:12:41   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Kevyn wrote:
I have no say in it, I am not Catholic, just like I have no say in a woman’s right to choose wether or not to carry a pregnancy to term.


Do you really think that those two scenarios are equal, Kev?

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Oct 30, 2019 07:29:49   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think that Catholic Priests should be able to get married??? Rabbis are allowed to get married as do other religious leaders !!! So why not Catholic Priests???? What do you guys think????


From what I understand its a sacrifice they made to offer their life to preach from the Holy Bible and to spread the word. Personally, it would cut the abuse to children in my opinion and those who want to marry can others don't have to

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Oct 30, 2019 07:41:51   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think that Catholic Priests should be able to get married??? Rabbis are allowed to get married as do other religious leaders !!! So why not Catholic Priests???? What do you guys think????


Hi,PR...I'm not Catholic,but a spiritual Christian. I'm reading a book "Francis-A Saint's Way" by James Cowan. Awesome writer.
It's about Saint Francis of Assisi, a man who tried to get close to Christ/God by rejecting earthly things;fancy clothes, elaborate housing etc. He fell deeply and spiritually in love with a woman,but never married,or "consumated" their love. It wasn't God-Like to him.
A strange man,but very inspirational in his convictions.
Look up "The Prayer of St. Francis". It's quite beautiful.

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Oct 30, 2019 08:46:49   #
Singularity
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Nope... Priests we're allowed to marry until about five hundred years ago...


I believe it had to do with enriching the coffers. Inheriting the priests' (families') wealth after they died. Easier if no surviving heirs.

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Oct 30, 2019 09:21:50   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Kevyn wrote:
I have no say in it, I am not Catholic, just like I have no say in a woman’s right to choose wether or not to carry a pregnancy to term.


Then be quiet!

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Oct 30, 2019 09:43:04   #
fullspinzoo
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
A better question is why are there Catholic priests??


I'm not sure why you are asking that question. Please explain.

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Oct 30, 2019 09:45:36   #
fullspinzoo
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Another sanctimonious completely unproved assertion from someone who specializes in them. See post immediately above. Remember Mark Twain's adage; better to say nothing and look stupid than to open your mouth & remove all doubt. Learn the truth before you start spouting off your nonsense.

BTW, PeterS, do you even practice any religion or is your God in your mirror?


His God already served as POTUS for 8 years. And now that Obama is out of office, he has nothing important to say.

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Oct 30, 2019 10:08:52   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Don't forget that there are huge numbers of ministers, rabbis teachers and counselors who have been guilty of molestation and sexual abuse.


I'm not Catholic .

Agree there are bad leaders in every church , however I think the Catholic Church has had a problem of just moving the bad ones to another location where they continue their evil ways !

What I've seen in other churches as they boot them out and turn over to the authorities !

I do think the Catholic churches would be better served by letting their Priest marry which I think would stop a lot of this bad stuff !

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