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As it stands, G-7 at Trump resort does not violate conflict-of-interest-law
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Oct 19, 2019 13:12:17   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-choice-to-bring-g7-to-his-own-resort-would-violate-conflict-of-interest-law-if-he-werent-president/ar-AAJ1kiO?ocid=spartandhp

Interesting read, after the following introductory remarks....

WASHINGTON — The rules are clear for nearly everyone who works in the executive branch: Officials are prohibited from playing even a minor role in a decision that directly creates a financial benefit for the employee or the employee’s immediate family.

But those rules do not apply to the president and vice president, the only executive branch officials who are exempt from a criminal statute and a separate ethics regulation that govern conflicts of interest.

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Oct 19, 2019 13:23:56   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-choice-to-bring-g7-to-his-own-resort-would-violate-conflict-of-interest-law-if-he-werent-president/ar-AAJ1kiO?ocid=spartandhp

Interesting read, after the following introductory remarks....

WASHINGTON — The rules are clear for nearly everyone who works in the executive branch: Officials are prohibited from playing even a minor role in a decision that directly creates a financial benefit for the employee or the employee’s immediate family.

But those rules do not apply to the president and vice president, the only executive branch officials who are exempt from a criminal statute and a separate ethics regulation that govern conflicts of interest.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-cho... (show quote)


Yes so was I and I can see the reason behind some of it but if it is at cost I have no problem with it.

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Oct 19, 2019 13:58:46   #
Kevyn
 
This could be a good thing for all of us. Trumps Doral resort has been hemorrhaging money and needs a shot in the arm. Like many of his properties it may be looking at bankruptcy, with occupancy down by over 70%. While the I***t Pumpkinfuhrer’s mouthpieces have insisted the G7 will be run at cost, this is a far better outcome for Doral than having the bedbug infested rooms sitting empty. Remember this thing is held in the summertime when south Florida is an insect plagued, scorching hot, humid hell hole, it is nearly impossible to fill rooms at that time of year. The place would be a ghost town without an event like this.

You might wonder why I would care about Trumps property making money or not, and the bottom line is I don’t, I do however care about profitability of my own property, and as American taxpayers you and I are likely soon to own a piece of Trumps boondoggle in the swamp. There is a provision in federal law called asset forfeiture where the property of people involved in racketeering and criminal conspiracy have their ill gotten property seized by law enforcement. As combover Caligula’s junta collapses around him and the forces of justice and the rule of law close in you and I are likely to own a little piece of his swamp resort and with it a portion of the proceeds from the foreign leaders and dignitaries he has lined up to fleece.

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Oct 19, 2019 14:45:23   #
Lonewolf
 
He's doing these stupid things and will continue till he gets a deal that lets him and his criminal family leave office with immunity from prosecution !

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Oct 19, 2019 15:18:36   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-choice-to-bring-g7-to-his-own-resort-would-violate-conflict-of-interest-law-if-he-werent-president/ar-AAJ1kiO?ocid=spartandhp

Interesting read, after the following introductory remarks....

WASHINGTON — The rules are clear for nearly everyone who works in the executive branch: Officials are prohibited from playing even a minor role in a decision that directly creates a financial benefit for the employee or the employee’s immediate family.

But those rules do not apply to the president and vice president, the only executive branch officials who are exempt from a criminal statute and a separate ethics regulation that govern conflicts of interest.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-cho... (show quote)

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To avoid the appearance of impropriety, I will allow the G7 Members choose the location where they want to hold the summit. If they choose the Trump resort because of its convenience, luxury, and comfort, then the G7 members decision prevails. Give them the locations se******ns, and allow them to choose where they deem it best.

I think president Trump must give the decision of the G7 members where they prefer to hold the summit and stay.

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Oct 19, 2019 15:43:00   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Kevyn wrote:
This could be a good thing for all of us. Trumps Doral resort has been hemorrhaging money and needs a shot in the arm. Like many of his properties it may be looking at bankruptcy, with occupancy down by over 70%. While the I***t Pumpkinfuhrer’s mouthpieces have insisted the G7 will be run at cost, this is a far better outcome for Doral than having the bedbug infested rooms sitting empty. Remember this thing is held in the summertime when south Florida is an insect plagued, scorching hot, humid hell hole, it is nearly impossible to fill rooms at that time of year. The place would be a ghost town without an event like this.

You might wonder why I would care about Trumps property making money or not, and the bottom line is I don’t, I do however care about profitability of my own property, and as American taxpayers you and I are likely soon to own a piece of Trumps boondoggle in the swamp. There is a provision in federal law called asset forfeiture where the property of people involved in racketeering and criminal conspiracy have their ill gotten property seized by law enforcement. As combover Caligula’s junta collapses around him and the forces of justice and the rule of law close in you and I are likely to own a little piece of his swamp resort and with it a portion of the proceeds from the foreign leaders and dignitaries he has lined up to fleece.
This could be a good thing for all of us. Trumps ... (show quote)


Your team needs some kind of legal jujitsu because all your candidates together couldn't fill up a phone booth. Pitiful.

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Oct 19, 2019 16:27:52   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-choice-to-bring-g7-to-his-own-resort-would-violate-conflict-of-interest-law-if-he-werent-president/ar-AAJ1kiO?ocid=spartandhp

Interesting read, after the following introductory remarks....

WASHINGTON — The rules are clear for nearly everyone who works in the executive branch: Officials are prohibited from playing even a minor role in a decision that directly creates a financial benefit for the employee or the employee’s immediate family.

But those rules do not apply to the president and vice president, the only executive branch officials who are exempt from a criminal statute and a separate ethics regulation that govern conflicts of interest.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-cho... (show quote)


This is covered by the emoluments clause, which amounts to the same thing. The problem with emoluments, is that no precedent has been set to establish clear guidelines.

The quandary is; what do you do when a President bribes himself?

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Oct 19, 2019 19:30:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lpnmajor wrote:
This is covered by the emoluments clause, which amounts to the same thing. The problem with emoluments, is that no precedent has been set to establish clear guidelines.

The quandary is; what do you do when a President bribes himself?



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Oct 19, 2019 19:45:46   #
woodguru
 
bahmer wrote:
Yes so was I and I can see the reason behind some of it but if it is at cost I have no problem with it.

That is a huge and impossible to hit parameter...at cost, what is that even?

The Doral is sub standard on many counts, counts that would take tens of millions to fix and upgrade. Does cost mean the government foots the bills for the "costs" necessary to do the thing? The property is run down because it has been losing money, revenues are down 69%.

Does he stock 1000 bottles of wine he would normally get $2500 a bottle for and sell them out at cost of $450 a bottle? Since a normal June would be a total loss because it's a slow month does he run it at the loss he would have had? Trump doesn't have normal perspectives on cost, everything he does he increases costs because he can. He would without a doubt increase room charges alone way beyond what he or the industry considers normal, he has done that elsewhere, including raising his membership fees from $100k to $200k when he knew foreign dignitaries and business titans would want the chance to speak to him knowing they consider $200k a pop cheap. This degree of emoluments violations should have already been challenged.

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Oct 19, 2019 19:57:07   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
That is a huge and impossible to hit parameter...at cost, what is that even?

The Doral is sub standard on many counts, counts that would take tens of millions to fix and upgrade. Does cost mean the government foots the bills for the "costs" necessary to do the thing? The property is run down because it has been losing money, revenues are down 69%.

Does he stock 1000 bottles of wine he would normally get $2500 a bottle for and sell them out at cost? Since a normal June would be a total loss because it's a slow month does he run it at the loss he would have had? Trump doesn't have normal perspectives on cost, everything he does he increases costs because he can. He would without a doubt increase room charges alone way beyond what he or the industry considers normal, he has done that elsewhere, including raising his membership fees from $100k to $200k when he knew foreign dignitaries and business titans would want the chance to speak to him knowing they consider $200k a pop cheap. This degree of emoluments violations should have already been challenged.
That is a huge and impossible to hit parameter...a... (show quote)

IMO, this is an attempted money-grab, pure and simple.

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Oct 19, 2019 20:20:52   #
woodguru
 
slatten49 wrote:
IMO, this is an attempted money-grab, pure and simple.


He was going to end up with an upgrade of $80 million easy, new greens, the works

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Oct 19, 2019 21:12:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
lpnmajor wrote:
This is covered by the emoluments clause, which amounts to the same thing. The problem with emoluments, is that no precedent has been set to establish clear guidelines.

The quandary is; what do you do when a President bribes himself?
The costs of hosting G7/G8 summits are enormous, security alone adds as much a 50% of the cost.

At a cost of 60 billion Yen ($559 million in US dollars), the 2008 G8 at the Windsor Hotel Toya Resort & Spa in Tōyako, Japan was the most expensive on record. Security for that summit was $280 million.

By contrast, the 2004 G8 held at Sea Island, Georgia, United States cost $139.5 million and that included security which consisted of National Guard, Local and state police, FBI, Diplomatic security, Secret Service, National Guard, IC sources, and Combat air patrols.

In all cases, the summits were held at private resorts the owners of which made lots of money.

President Trump already said that the Florida resort would be leased at cost, no profit would be gained. Should the G7 summit be held there, it would save a lot of money.

It's a big deal to h**ers like you, but who gives a s**t where the summit is held?

It would be an impeachable offense if the White House switched its toilet paper from Charmin to Peach Luxury bath tissue.

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Oct 19, 2019 21:38:49   #
Radiance3
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The costs of hosting G7/G8 summits are enormous, security alone adds as much a 50% of the cost.

At a cost of 60 billion Yen ($559 million in US dollars), the 2008 G8 at the Windsor Hotel Toya Resort & Spa in Tōyako, Japan was the most expensive on record. Security for that summit was $280 million.

By contrast, the 2004 G8 held at Sea Island, Georgia, United States cost $139.5 million and that included security which consisted of National Guard, Local and state police, FBI, Diplomatic security, Secret Service, National Guard, IC sources, and Combat air patrols.

In all cases, the summits were held at private resorts the owners of which made lots of money.

President Trump already said that the Florida resort would be leased at cost, no profit would be gained. Should the G7 summit be held there, it would save a lot of money.

It's a big deal to h**ers like you, but who gives a s**t where the summit is held?

It would be an impeachable offense if the White House switched its toilet paper from Charmin to Peach Luxury bath tissue.
The costs of hosting G7/G8 summits are enormous, s... (show quote)

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Oct 19, 2019 23:10:59   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-choice-to-bring-g7-to-his-own-resort-would-violate-conflict-of-interest-law-if-he-werent-president/ar-AAJ1kiO?ocid=spartandhp

Interesting read, after the following introductory remarks....

WASHINGTON — The rules are clear for nearly everyone who works in the executive branch: Officials are prohibited from playing even a minor role in a decision that directly creates a financial benefit for the employee or the employee’s immediate family.

But those rules do not apply to the president and vice president, the only executive branch officials who are exempt from a criminal statute and a separate ethics regulation that govern conflicts of interest.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-cho... (show quote)

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President Trump changed the venue of the G7 Summit. It will no longer be held at the Trump Doral resort in Maimi, Fl.

It will be held at Camp David, Maryland, on June 10, thru 12, 2020. I think this is a good decision in order to have peace of mind.

If held at the Doral Resort in Miami, the radical dems will relentlessly target him for impeachment again and again until he is exhausted. Peace of mind is priceless.


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Oct 19, 2019 23:13:34   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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President Trump changed the venue of the G7 Summit. It will no longer be held at the Trump Doral resort in Maimi, Fl.

It will be held at Camp David, Maryland, on June 10, thru 12, 2020. I think this is a good decision in order to have peace of mind.

If held at the Doral Resort in Miami, the radical dems will relentlessly target him for impeachment again and again until he is exhausted. Peace of mind is priceless.

================= br P i resident Trump changed th... (show quote)

I agree. I hadn't heard that yet, as I've been watching the World Weries. But, that is good news and Trump made the right decision.

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