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Oct 19, 2019 09:59:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Peewee wrote:
Thanks for the info, it gives me some easy research to do. I think both religions had my house marked some way. Every summer I got a lot of knocks on my door where I used to live. The Mormons were always squeaky clean-cut and polite, about 16 or 17-year-old males. The JW's were all ages and sexes, more determined and a bit pushy... like they had a mandatory quota to reach.


The JWs were always the best...

This summer I was fortunate enough to meet up with an old JW friend... Have known him for twenty years and he is still a great fellow..

Suffering from a blood disease..Not leukemia but similar...And yet has survived two years past the doctor's opinion...

Please be sure to share your research

Information is restricted up here

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Oct 19, 2019 10:19:07   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The JWs were always the best...

This summer I was fortunate enough to meet up with an old JW friend... Have known him for twenty years and he is still a great fellow..

Suffering from a blood disease..Not leukemia but similar...And yet has survived two years past the doctor's opinion...

Please be sure to share your research

Information is restricted up here
The JWs were always the best... br br This summer... (show quote)


Will do!

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Oct 19, 2019 20:43:13   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
this is what I've found so far:

2014 - Kasgar's Muslims Uyghur camps began

2018 - 1 to 2 million held in camps. 50 countries, many Islamic, sent latter to UN supporting China's policy

That's as far as I got today. Keep getting interrupted. Guess if they're not Shia or Sunni they don't count. That tells me it isn't about religion but tribal connections. Saudi Arabia is Sunni and Iran is Shia. What surprised me was reading that the Royals in SA admit that they were once Jews. Today they say, cousins.

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Oct 28, 2019 18:25:28   #
rumitoid
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The JWs were always the best...

This summer I was fortunate enough to meet up with an old JW friend... Have known him for twenty years and he is still a great fellow..

Suffering from a blood disease..Not leukemia but similar...And yet has survived two years past the doctor's opinion...

Please be sure to share your research

Information is restricted up here
The JWs were always the best... br br This summer... (show quote)


JWs were the only Christian group that openly resisted pressure by Hitler, along with one voice of Rudolf Bultmann crying in the wilderness. Catholics and Protestants generally collaborated, but some risked their lives to help the Jews and sought to hide them.

Here is an interesting article, CD, that supports your comments: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses

Jehovah's Witnesses were subjected to intense persecution under the Nazi regime. Nazi leaders targeted Jehovah's Witnesses because they were unwilling to accept the authority of the state, because of their international connections, and because they were strongly opposed to both war on behalf of a temporal authority and organized government in matters of conscience.

Within months of the Nazi takeover, regional governments, primarily those of Bavaria and Prussia, initiated aggressive steps against Jehovah's Witnesses, breaking up their meetings, ransacking and then occupying their local offices. By April 1, 1935, the Reich and Prussian Minister of the Interior ordered the responsible local officials to dissolve the Watchtower Society.

Many actions of Jehovah's Witnesses antagonized Nazi authorities. While Witnesses contended that they were apolitical and that their actions were not anti-Nazi, their unwillingness to give the Nazi salute, to join party organizations or to let their children join the Hitler Youth, their refusal to participate in the so-called elections or plebiscites, and their unwillingness to adorn their homes with Nazi flags made them suspect.

A special unit of the Gestapo (secret state police) compiled a registry of all persons believed to be Jehovah's Witnesses. Gestapo agents infiltrated Bible study meetings. While Jehovah's Witnesses as such were not banned, many of the activities which were basic to the exercise of the faith increasingly came under attack. Above all, the authorities sought to interdict the distribution of printed materials, produced locally or smuggled in from outside the country in large quantities, which in the eyes of the Nazis were clearly subversive.

When Germany reintroduced compulsory military service in March 1935, the conflict with the Witnesses escalated. For refusing to be drafted or perform military-related work, and for continuing to meet illegally, increasing numbers of Jehovah's Witnesses were arrested, tried by judicial authorities and incarcerated in prisons and concentration camps.

By 1939, an estimated 6,000 Witnesses (including some from Austria and Czechoslovakia) were detained in prisons or camps. Others fled Germany, continued their religious observance in private, or ceased to observe altogether. Some Witnesses were tortured in attempts to make them sign declarations renouncing their faith, but few capitulated to this pressure.

In the concentration camps, all prisoners wore markings of various shapes and colors so that guards and camp officers could identify them by category. Jehovah's Witnesses were marked by purple triangular patches. Even in the camps, they continued to meet, pray, and seek converts. In the Buchenwald concentration camp, they set up an underground printing press and distributed religious tracts.

Conditions in Nazi camps were harsh for all inmates. Many prisoners died from hunger, disease, exhaustion, exposure to the cold, and brutal treatment. Incarcerated Jehovah's Witnesses were sustained by the support they gave each other and by their belief that their suffering was part of their work for God. Individual Witnesses astounded guards with their refusal to conform to military-type routines like roll call or roll bandages for soldiers at the front. At the same time, camp authorities considered Witnesses to be relatively trustworthy because they refused to escape or physically resist their guards. For this reason, Nazi camp officers and guards often used Witnesses as domestic servants.

Of the 25,000 to 30,000 Germans who in 1933 were Jehovah's Witnesses, an estimated 20,000 remained active through the Nazi period. The remainder fled Germany, renounced their faith, or confined their worship to the family. Of those remaining active, about half were convicted and sentenced at one time or another during the Nazi era for anywhere from one month to four years, with the average being about 18 months. Of those convicted or sentenced, between 2,000 to 2,500 were sent to concentration camps, as were a total of about 700 to 800 non-German Witnesses (this figure includes about 200–250 Dutch, 200 Austrians, 100 Poles, and between 10 and 50 Belgians, French, Czechs, and Hungarians).

An estimated 1,000 German Jehovah's Witnesses died in concentration camps and prisons during the Nazi era, as did 400 Witnesses from other countries, including about 90 Austrians and 120 Dutch persons. (The non-German Jehovah's Witnesses suffered a considerably higher percentage of deaths than their German co-religionists.) In addition, about 250 German Jehovah's Witnesses were executed—mostly after being tried and convicted by military tribunals—for refusing to serve in the German military.

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Oct 28, 2019 21:28:29   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Germany is still enforcing education state control of its citizen's children enacted by Hitler. That's about 80 years now.

JW's has been exposed many times as mostly a cult type religion, controlled from the top down. The theology is way off base from scriptures. It is mostly concerned about selling the Watch Tower magazine and keeping the top people wealthy and has destroyed many marriages of its members when one buys into it and the other doesn't. They have been sued many times but somehow stay in business as a religion. Probably why Hitler's Germany went easy on them compared to others. It wasn't a serious threat to their power or propaganda message. A lot of mind control of its members. A lot like Scientology, just not as big.

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