Hi Padre... Hope you are well...

I have not heard of it... I know that in a number of provinces the Bible has been labelled as hate literature...But I believe pastors are still able to condemn the sin of homosexuality...

There are some churches that now accept homosexuality ..But they are still the minority...


Apologies....But how would one determine who is "actively" seeking repentance?

Example: Should gluttons be allowed to attend church? How about adulterers?
How about non-christians?

As an Orthodox Priest I heard them in confession. On a few occasions when it was obvious something was amiss I simply asked them. It is not a great mystery to determine if someone is on the up and up and truly coming to Christ. Jesus doesn't demand perfection and neither should His church yet we in the church are all called to repentance and confession. 1 John 1:8f "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Is there room in this scripture for gluttons, adulterers, non-Christians, homosexuals? Is there not room for every sinner here? Unquestionably there is for those who willingly acknowledge their sin and desire to amend their life.....Zoe Christos!I

I hope I have answered your question satisfactorily. I have been on OPP most all day and not doing my physical therapy. I'm tired but it is so much fun! I really like everyone on this site except one guy and he knows who he is. 😇😇

Scripture is from God. You either trust and believe that or you don't. You seem to be looking for loopholes to me. God keeps three books in Heaven. Those that belong to Him, those that belong to Satan, and those still sitting on the fence and may go either way even if He already knows what they will decide, he still doesn't shut the door on them. A death, a birth, a tragedy or a person they respect or love may still change their heart and mind with the right words or actions. People aren't robots yet and they do have free will. The story isn't over until it's over or until your last breath. But the odds of a doctor or nurse sharing the gospel is getting rarer due to the fear of being sued or fired and the war on free speech.

Rose, there is great ambiguity about every verse against homosexuality. For instance, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination [towebah].” Leviticus 18:22

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination [towebah]: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Leviticus 20:13

Don't Get Confused. “In the twenty first century many Christians confuse modern homosexuality, non-cultic same sex attraction, with the ancient world’s sexual abuse of slaves, rape of foreigners, pederasty and pagan fertility rites. None of those ancient practices are analogs to modern homosexuality.”

Constitutional attorneys sometimes discuss the idea of "original intent." In answering this question about homosexuality, understanding original intent in scripture is vitally important. If we rip verses out of context and use the out of context verses to condemn our gay brothers and lesbian sisters, we sin against God and His truth in scripture.

Was God talking about modern, twenty first century gay marriage or committed faithful non-cultic same sex partnerships or was He talking about pagan sexual rituals in worship of the Canaanite fertility goddess? Context is important.

There is no evidence in the Bible that God or OT Jews or Jesus Christ Himself understood Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13 as prohibiting committed faithful non-cultic same sex partnerships. The homosexuality wrong idea comes from taking verses out of context.

We know that because, although Sodom is mentioned 48 times in the Bible, not once in 48 verses of scripture in the Old and New Testaments does God ever reference homosexuality when He speaks of Sodom.

Although anti-gay Christians wish the Bible talked about homosexuality whenever Sodom is mentioned, God just doesn’t make that connection in the Bible in any of the 48 verses which mention Sodom. Since God doesn't make that connection, why are you making that connection? Think about that for a while before you assume homosexuality is wrong.

Did you know that in the Bible, the term eunuch sometimes describes a gay man? Do you remember reading what Jesus said about eunuchs in Matthew 19:3-12?

“But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.” Matthew 19:11-12.

Jesus said there are three kinds of eunuchs and the first class of eunuchs He mentions are those eunuchs who "were so born from their mother's womb." Matthew 19:12.
https://www.gaychristian101.com/Homosexuality-Wrong.html

Nope... I think you're dead on...

And I agree...

My point was that many (though certainly not all) would seek to limit proselytizing by other religions, but not Christianity... I agree...Individuals can always decide for themselves...

My wife's family are mostly atheists, sorry to say... But there is always hope for them...

I share the Gospel with any who wish to hear it... And occasionally some who don't (Muslims ). .

Christianity is becoming the most persucuted religion in our nation along the west coast. I used to have a little book called "So What's the Difference" that covered most religions. It helped me a lot with certain religions like Mormons and Jehovah's Witness people knocking on my door. I don't like being rude and shutting the door in someone's face, especially if they are young teens. It gave me two or three facts that I could say conflict with my religion. So it was kind of a witness back to them. Most didn't seem offended and left without being argumentive or persistent. Sometimes I would just say "oh your in a cult, let me tell you about the real Jesus" that was pretty effective too. Do you still have Muslims in your area? I thought they were all being rounded up, sent to re-education camps or having their organs removed and that their social credit score and phones had a spy app installed by the police? I think that was a recent 60 Minutes program I watched said was happening in China. What's going on in your area that you have first-hand knowledge of?

There are still Muslims here... My friends own a noodle shop... And his sister has a restaurant as well...Plus there are a number of street vendors at the university...

I haven't been to the mosque since before summer... Either the university one, or the city one...But I haven't heard anything...

Have never heard of Muslims losing their organs... Although there has been controversy concerning organ harvesting from criminals condemned to capital punishment...

None of my Muslim friends have lost family or friends to these re-education camps... So I am personally doubtful as to the numbers..

I have read about this app as well... It moniters individuals... Can't say that I'm a fan.. But look on a map which nations border Xinjiang (muslim autonomous region) and you might understand the reasoning behind it... There has been infiltration in the area by terrorist organizations....

Social credit scores are unaffected by one's religious affiliation, as far as I am aware...


I agree that it can be annoying to have individuals cone to your door to proselytize..But I always enjoyed them... JWs and Mormons... Lots of fun.. And usually quite respectful...

Hope you are well... Pretty late where you are...Too much coffee