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Russia Escalates In Ukraine, Making It Crucial That NATO And The US Put A Stop To It
Oct 6, 2019 17:46:37   #
woodguru
 
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the Ukraine with NATO. Already Trump made unilateral moves against US policies to slow down critical military aid that would have helped the Ukraine fight off Russian supplied mercenaries that were building up a Russian tank presence for an attack. They were forced to withdraw.

Russia has been playing a game of plausible deniability by using mercenaries, and getting bolder and bolder as far as the Russian military arms such as tanks. NATO and the US want this headed off before Russia starts thinking it can get away with using it's air force and regular army.

Prevention and blocking Putin's covert moves is necessary to prevent an all out war that NATO and the united states gets involved in. Putin is screwing with the Ukraine's shipping, which is hurting its economy. Trump is going around the decisions congress and intelligence are making concerning military aid, and it doesn't take much to figure out that Trump is motivated to side with Putin. The actions Trump is taking against the Ukraine are escalating Russia's plays.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/419200-thwarting-moscows-latest-escalation

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Oct 6, 2019 18:05:41   #
Kevyn
 
woodguru wrote:
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the Ukraine with NATO. Already Trump made unilateral moves against US policies to slow down critical military aid that would have helped the Ukraine fight off Russian supplied mercenaries that were building up a Russian tank presence for an attack. They were forced to withdraw.

Russia has been playing a game of plausible deniability by using mercenaries, and getting bolder and bolder as far as the Russian military arms such as tanks. NATO and the US want this headed off before Russia starts thinking it can get away with using it's air force and regular army.

Prevention and blocking Putin's covert moves is necessary to prevent an all out war that NATO and the united states gets involved in. Putin is screwing with the Ukraine's shipping, which is hurting its economy. Trump is going around the decisions congress and intelligence are making concerning military aid, and it doesn't take much to figure out that Trump is motivated to side with Putin. The actions Trump is taking against the Ukraine are escalating Russia's plays.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/419200-thwarting-moscows-latest-escalation
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the... (show quote)

We need to equip Ukraine with A-10s and patriot batteries. A president with balls would kick a telephone pole up putins ass. Elizabeth Warren would never bow to Putin like Trump. Hell, Ru Paul wouldn't.

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Oct 6, 2019 18:45:18   #
Gatsby
 
woodguru wrote:
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the Ukraine with NATO. Already Trump made unilateral moves against US policies to slow down critical military aid that would have helped the Ukraine fight off Russian supplied mercenaries that were building up a Russian tank presence for an attack. They were forced to withdraw.

Russia has been playing a game of plausible deniability by using mercenaries, and getting bolder and bolder as far as the Russian military arms such as tanks. NATO and the US want this headed off before Russia starts thinking it can get away with using it's air force and regular army.

Prevention and blocking Putin's covert moves is necessary to prevent an all out war that NATO and the united states gets involved in. Putin is screwing with the Ukraine's shipping, which is hurting its economy. Trump is going around the decisions congress and intelligence are making concerning military aid, and it doesn't take much to figure out that Trump is motivated to side with Putin. The actions Trump is taking against the Ukraine are escalating Russia's plays.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/419200-thwarting-moscows-latest-escalation
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the... (show quote)


First, Ukraine is not a NATO member, and does not fall under the NATO umbrella.

Second, where is the E.U.? How much "Lethal Aid" have they provided to Ukraine?

The E.U. has four times the population of Russia and four times the GDP that Russia has;

Why do they constantly need our help to keep the big bad wolf out?

Did the E.U. put up a billion euros, or just a big funk?

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Oct 6, 2019 18:56:32   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Gatsby wrote:
First, Ukraine is not a NATO member, and does not fall under the NATO umbrella.

Second, where is the E.U.? How much "Lethal Aid" have they provided to Ukraine?

The E.U. has four times the population of Russia and four times the GDP that Russia has;

Why do they constantly need our help to keep the big bad wolf out?

Did the E.U. put up a billion euros, or just a big funk?


That is exactly what Trump was telling Zelensky in his phone call ....EU needs to put up some dough too and not only rely on US for financial assistance!!!

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Oct 6, 2019 19:07:02   #
Gatsby
 
proud republican wrote:
That is exactly what Trump was telling Zelensky in his phone call ....EU needs to put up some dough too and not only rely on US for financial assistance!!!
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The sad t***h is that the E.U. is addicted to Russian energy, Russia cuts off the natural gas

and the E.U. nations FREEZE again thus THEY dare not push too hard.

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Oct 6, 2019 19:26:18   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Gatsby wrote:
First, Ukraine is not a NATO member, and does not fall under the NATO umbrella.

Second, where is the E.U.? How much "Lethal Aid" have they provided to Ukraine?

The E.U. has four times the population of Russia and four times the GDP that Russia has;

Why do they constantly need our help to keep the big bad wolf out?

Did the E.U. put up a billion euros, or just a big funk?


Woodrow h**es being shot down in flames.....just sayin.
He won't be back on this thread.

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Oct 7, 2019 04:28:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
woodguru wrote:
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the Ukraine with NATO. Already Trump made unilateral moves against US policies to slow down critical military aid that would have helped the Ukraine fight off Russian supplied mercenaries that were building up a Russian tank presence for an attack. They were forced to withdraw.

Russia has been playing a game of plausible deniability by using mercenaries, and getting bolder and bolder as far as the Russian military arms such as tanks. NATO and the US want this headed off before Russia starts thinking it can get away with using it's air force and regular army.

Prevention and blocking Putin's covert moves is necessary to prevent an all out war that NATO and the united states gets involved in. Putin is screwing with the Ukraine's shipping, which is hurting its economy. Trump is going around the decisions congress and intelligence are making concerning military aid, and it doesn't take much to figure out that Trump is motivated to side with Putin. The actions Trump is taking against the Ukraine are escalating Russia's plays.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/419200-thwarting-moscows-latest-escalation
The US is dropping the ball in it's defense of the... (show quote)


Note: The following comments ate sarcastic and meant to be read in a stoned out whiny voice...


Dude... Absolutely... We need a president who will like draw some lines in the sand... Lots of lines... Line after line... Make that beach look like the world's largest hopscotch court... Totally...

And wh**ever happened to giving anyone anything they asked for... I mean bring on the missiles right... Should ink an agreement with the Ukraine...Promise them aid if they are attacked... It's like we expect folk to fight their own wars...No way man... Not happening...

Putin is like bad news man... And like only America can stop him...So let's do it to it... Make war not love.. Are you feeling it?



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Oct 7, 2019 04:29:45   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
archie bunker wrote:
Woodrow h**es being shot down in flames.....just sayin.
He won't be back on this thread.


Icarus syndrome

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Oct 7, 2019 12:06:34   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
We need to equip Ukraine with A-10s and patriot batteries. A president with balls would kick a telephone pole up putins ass. Elizabeth Warren would never bow to Putin like Trump. Hell, Ru Paul wouldn't.


WOW!!! I'm really impressed! That's the first successful trap Pelousy has set for Trump! Should get interesting......better than the modern NFL!

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Oct 7, 2019 12:10:45   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
We need to equip Ukraine with A-10s and patriot batteries. A president with balls would kick a telephone pole up putins ass. Elizabeth Warren would never bow to Putin like Trump. Hell, Ru Paul wouldn't.


And.......listen to yourself prog man....you sound like George Dubyah!!!! The times they are a changin!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 7, 2019 12:12:43   #
rebob14
 
Gatsby wrote:
First, Ukraine is not a NATO member, and does not fall under the NATO umbrella.

Second, where is the E.U.? How much "Lethal Aid" have they provided to Ukraine?

The E.U. has four times the population of Russia and four times the GDP that Russia has;

Why do they constantly need our help to keep the big bad wolf out?

Did the E.U. put up a billion euros, or just a big funk?


Don't get Kevvy too upset! He might lose his situational awareness!

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Oct 7, 2019 16:03:03   #
Gatsby
 
rebob14 wrote:
Don't get Kevvy too upset! He might lose his situational awareness!


It's in the bottom of an old trunk, in the far corner of the attic; of an abandoned old house.

Right on top of his common sense.

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Oct 8, 2019 02:10:08   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Kevyn wrote:
We need to equip Ukraine with A-10s and patriot batteries. A president with balls would kick a telephone pole up putins ass. Elizabeth Warren would never bow to Putin like Trump. Hell, Ru Paul wouldn't.


They received their money middle of Sept on schedule their aid package was not held up

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