2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

where he goes deeper into what the framers had decided for our country and Countrymen and Women.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/bp5NHH62SPQ

PeterS

So how are a people who are armed with semi-automatic weapons supposed to combat a police force and military that is armed with automatic weapons, bombs and explosives, drones, aircraft, a navy, etc, etc? What was the framers intent there?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Ask the Vietcong. And not all in the military or law enforcement are Muslim loving, American hating trash like you.

Doctor Dave Loc: Madisonville, Tx.

The framers intent here is that the people are in charge of the country and the people do come first.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The US government totals 4 million people, elected officials and employees, this includes the entire armed forces.

89,000 US government employees are deployed overseas (in 140 countries)

There are 120,000 federal law enforcement agents with arrest authority.

There are 1.3 million active duty military and 800,000 national guard and reservists.

An average of 400,000 military personnel are trained in combat. That includes pilots, naval weapons specialists and gunners, and ground combat troops. 80% of military personnel are administrative, support, intel, and non-combat specialists.

There are approximately 800,000 local, county and state law enforcement officers in about 13,000 departments in the US.

In the abstract, the total number of federal agents, police officers, and military personnel capable of carrying out gun confiscation is 1.3 million.

There are 80 million US citizens who own nearly 400 million firearms.

We can eliminate 450,000 military personnel who are deployed overseas.

We can eliminate all naval personnel aboard ships and 95% of those stationed at land bases.

We can eliminate all pilots. We can eliminate around 50% of military combat troops. We can eliminate a significant percentage of police officers, sheriff's deputies, military combat troops and national guardsmen simply because indications are they would refuse to participate or enforce a nation wide confiscation effort.

Realistically then, the ratio of confiscator to gun owner would be 1 for every 250 or 300 gun owners.

Apart from these facts, there are a number of critical points to be made.

first of all, our American government, like it or not, is still bound to some degree by the constitution upon which it was established. For the government to employ military and police forces to disarm all American citizens, it would have to undergo a truly radical change. A totalitarian dictatorship would have to be established, and nationwide martial law would have to be implemented. Even then, in a country as large, as diverse and as populated as the US, the tyrants would have some major problems.

Several years ago, three studies were conducted on the military capabilities of our armed forces, one study was done by the commanding officer of the Army War College, another by an Air Force colonel in intelligence, and one by a captain in the US Navy. These studies were condensed into an analysis called "The Paradox of Military Technology".

The military has become dependent on electronic technology that is system interdependent, it is vulnerable to glitches, software failures, hacking, and a host of other problems. The greatest amount of energy and resources go into R&D for firewalling and computer security.

With regard to the human factors involved in military operations, here then is a quote by Major General Robert Scales, the former commander of the Army War College, “there is no appreciable technological advantage for an American infantryman when fighting the close battle against even the poorest, most primitive enemy. The Afghan Mujahideen proved that during the Soviet invasion.

Mike ivey

The Framers intent is not hard to understand! I can't believe that anyone would Not understand this! It is in The Declaration of Independence. Spelled out for you. The absolute #1 reason, was to keep aTyrannical, corrupt Govt at bay and to have the means to O*******w it if necessary! Only problem is, the Govt has a lot more firepower. Would they use it? No doubt in my mind they Would! Would the military use it? I am sure some units would! Police Departments use them? No doubt that's where the real fight would come from.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Good grief Blade! You always provide substantive data that would require us novices many days to accrue.

ImLogicallyRight

I'm not interested in owning a gun. If someone wants to break in and steal my TV, it isn't worth a gun battle. Besides I can got a much better one with the insurance money. If I get confronted by a gunman while passing an alley, he already has his gun out. Hey, here's my wallet. I'll have all the cards canceled in fifteen minutes and he can have the fifty bucks. I also don't hunt.

But I will tell you something. The day some son of a b***h, bastard of a politician decides to take away guns and take control, just because he has a force behind him with guns, that is when I will have a gun, high powered and fast shooting, with the expressed intent to k**l that bastard and all those that support him. Beto would be an easy target. Just look for the tall dumb looking and acting doofus and fire away.

We hear all to often from the left, that Trump is going to take over and run America as a dictator. The right said it about obama, the left said it about bush and the right said it about clinton. And each of them has tried to get more control of the people and added onto the oppression and government control of their predecessors. It gets worse with every successive president.

So remember, the single most important reason to have a gun and never surrender your gun is because sooner or later we're going to have to shoot the bastards and start over.

ImLogicallyRight

Ricktloml

Thank-you blade for that information. The fact that there is political leadership that would seriously consider subverting the Constitution on a level where this is now a regular discussion is staggering

billman6 Loc: Top of Texas

You got that right 👍👍👍

Navigator

They aren't. The semi-automatic weapons are to help convince the police and the military, many of whom will not be supportive of the government to resist the government and provide the automatic weapons, bombs, explosives, aircraft, tanks etc. needed to complete the o*******w, much like every other revolution in the last 100 years. The difference is, in the US, the crowds of hundreds of thousands protesting will be armed, as long as universal gun registration and confiscation has not yet occurred.