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Iliamna1

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Thank you for your kind reply.I did not home school my kids but I read to them and used flash cards to teach them numbers colors and ABCs. When your 5 year old is able to read before a teacher taught them you know you have accomplished something.

You might not recognize it as such, but you were home schooling your children, albeit on a limited scale with obviously great results. So much CAN and SHOULD be taught at home, essential things life values and sexuality and responsibility, keeping a house clean, cooking, basic repairs. Forgive me, I'm starting to ramble. Who's the better shepherd? The hireling or the owner?

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Texas T***h wrote:

Bingo a Japanese second grader is smarter then high school graduate in the United States.

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Texas T***h,

Given your written complaint about American public education, I suppose you consider yourself to be a “shining example” of something other than a public education graduate. If so, perhaps you should follow your own advice and go to Japan and start your basic education all over.

This is hysterical! You’re complaining about U.S. public education and you made 4 mistakes in writing only 1 (bad) sentence.

First) Unless the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” “Bingo” needs a punctuation mark after it. Hint, it’s an “!.” And, if the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” the name “Bingo” should’ve had a comma following it, at the very least.
Second) If “Bingo” wasn’t your subject’s name, the “a” following “Bingo” needs to be capitalized.
Third) You, apparently, don’t know the difference in definitions and the use of between the words, “then” and “than.”
Fourth) You left out the word “a” that should’ve followed the word “than” and

I may be nit-picking, but it’s fairly common among the posters in here to use “then” when “than” is the correct word. It’s also common for a lot of people to misuse the words, “too” and “there.” Oftentimes they’ll write “to” when “too” or “two” would be correct and “there” when “they’re” or “their” are the proper words to use.

And, NO!, I’m not an English teacher. However, I AM a proud product of public education, which includes my college degrees. I know I make gramatical mistakes, but I’d really try not to make any, especially when complaining about my country’s educational system. If you and the other complainers in here want to see improvement in our public education system, tell President Gutless Wonder to quit taking our tax dollars away from our public schools so they can be funded enough to get and keep good teachers and get the support the teachers need to do their jobs without taking from their own purses to cover the costs. Find ways to build new schools; schools with the tools needed to teach kids the sk**l they need to get a decent job in today’s world.

Find ways to get parents involved in their kids’ education. Find ways to stop parents having to work 2-3 jobs just to pay the rent, utilities and buy food. That way, they’ll have more time to spend with their kids and help them learn.

Instead of just sitting back and complaining about how bad education is, get off your asses and actually help the schools and the kids. Become a tutor, a substitute teacher, or a teacher’s aide. Become a mentor to kids who’ve gotten themselves into minor trouble with the law. Help the kids learn how to get along with others; how to choose between right and wrong, take provide in themselves and show respect to others.*

If all you do is b***h and moan about how bad things are, without offering anything viable to help fix things, all you’re doing is adding to the problems education already faces. And, these are problems that’ll not go away on their own.

*I tutor 2 high school kids twice a week; am a substitute teacher, for all grade levels, for the local school district I live in, usually 2-3 times a week; and, am 1 of 5 mentors, helping 25 “troubled youth” avoid major jail time in their futures through our local COMPASS Program (via 90 minute, weekly meetings for 16 weeks).

So, there are several ways whereby people can help our kids get better and smarter. You just need to be willing to give of yourselves instead of being just complainers. Like my old football coach used to say, “If you can’t help us, don’t hurt us.”

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Iliamna1 wrote:

You might not recognize it as such, but you were home schooling your children, albeit on a limited scale with obviously great results. So much CAN and SHOULD be taught at home, essential things life values and sexuality and responsibility, keeping a house clean, cooking, basic repairs. Forgive me, I'm starting to ramble. Who's the better shepherd? The hireling or the owner?

Wow just Wow. I feel the same way

Ricktloml

alabuck wrote:

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Texas T***h,

Given your written complaint about American public education, I suppose you consider yourself to be a “shining example” of something other than a public education graduate. If so, perhaps you should follow your own advice and go to Japan and start your basic education all over.

This is hysterical! You’re complaining about U.S. public education and you made 4 mistakes in writing only 1 (bad) sentence.

First) Unless the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” “Bingo” needs a punctuation mark after it. Hint, it’s an “!.” And, if the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” the name “Bingo” should’ve had a comma following it, at the very least.
Second) If “Bingo” wasn’t your subject’s name, the “a” following “Bingo” needs to be capitalized.
Third) You, apparently, don’t know the difference in definitions and the use of between the words, “then” and “than.”
Fourth) You left out the word “a” that should’ve followed the word “than” and

I may be nit-picking, but it’s fairly common among the posters in here to use “then” when “than” is the correct word. It’s also common for a lot of people to misuse the words, “too” and “there.” Oftentimes they’ll write “to” when “too” or “two” would be correct and “there” when “they’re” or “their” are the proper words to use.

And, NO!, I’m not an English teacher. However, I AM a proud product of public education, which includes my college degrees. I know I make gramatical mistakes, but I’d really try not to make any, especially when complaining about my country’s educational system. If you and the other complainers in here want to see improvement in our public education system, tell President Gutless Wonder to quit taking our tax dollars away from our public schools so they can be funded enough to get and keep good teachers and get the support the teachers need to do their jobs without taking from their own purses to cover the costs. Find ways to build new schools; schools with the tools needed to teach kids the sk**l they need to get a decent job in today’s world.

Find ways to get parents involved in their kids’ education. Find ways to stop parents having to work 2-3 jobs just to pay the rent, utilities and buy food. That way, they’ll have more time to spend with their kids and help them learn.

Instead of just sitting back and complaining about how bad education is, get off your asses and actually help the schools and the kids. Become a tutor, a substitute teacher, or a teacher’s aide. Become a mentor to kids who’ve gotten themselves into minor trouble with the law. Help the kids learn how to get along with others; how to choose between right and wrong, take provide in themselves and show respect to others.*

If all you do is b***h and moan about how bad things are, without offering anything viable to help fix things, all you’re doing is adding to the problems education already faces. And, these are problems that’ll not go away on their own.

*I tutor 2 high school kids twice a week; am a substitute teacher, for all grade levels, for the local school district I live in, usually 2-3 times a week; and, am 1 of 5 mentors, helping 25 “troubled youth” avoid major jail time in their futures through our local COMPASS Program (via 90 minute, weekly meetings for 16 weeks).

So, there are several ways whereby people can help our kids get better and smarter. You just need to be willing to give of yourselves instead of being just complainers. Like my old football coach used to say, “If you can’t help us, don’t hurt us.”

—————- br Texas T***h, br br Given your written c... (show quote)

So you believe that our public school system is above criticism? And of course the solution is to throw money at the very real problems that do exist. If incompetent teachers could be fired that would be an immense improvement, but short of being convicted of a felony, getting rid of a poor teacher is almost impossible. Good for you for providing needed help to these young people. But our public education system IS in sorry shape, and reviling someone for daring to point it out certainly doesn't do anything to solve the problem.

Ricktloml

alabuck wrote:

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Texas T***h,

Given your written complaint about American public education, I suppose you consider yourself to be a “shining example” of something other than a public education graduate. If so, perhaps you should follow your own advice and go to Japan and start your basic education all over.

This is hysterical! You’re complaining about U.S. public education and you made 4 mistakes in writing only 1 (bad) sentence.

First) Unless the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” “Bingo” needs a punctuation mark after it. Hint, it’s an “!.” And, if the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” the name “Bingo” should’ve had a comma following it, at the very least.
Second) If “Bingo” wasn’t your subject’s name, the “a” following “Bingo” needs to be capitalized.
Third) You, apparently, don’t know the difference in definitions and the use of between the words, “then” and “than.”
Fourth) You left out the word “a” that should’ve followed the word “than” and

I may be nit-picking, but it’s fairly common among the posters in here to use “then” when “than” is the correct word. It’s also common for a lot of people to misuse the words, “too” and “there.” Oftentimes they’ll write “to” when “too” or “two” would be correct and “there” when “they’re” or “their” are the proper words to use.

And, NO!, I’m not an English teacher. However, I AM a proud product of public education, which includes my college degrees. I know I make gramatical mistakes, but I’d really try not to make any, especially when complaining about my country’s educational system. If you and the other complainers in here want to see improvement in our public education system, tell President Gutless Wonder to quit taking our tax dollars away from our public schools so they can be funded enough to get and keep good teachers and get the support the teachers need to do their jobs without taking from their own purses to cover the costs. Find ways to build new schools; schools with the tools needed to teach kids the sk**l they need to get a decent job in today’s world.

Find ways to get parents involved in their kids’ education. Find ways to stop parents having to work 2-3 jobs just to pay the rent, utilities and buy food. That way, they’ll have more time to spend with their kids and help them learn.

Instead of just sitting back and complaining about how bad education is, get off your asses and actually help the schools and the kids. Become a tutor, a substitute teacher, or a teacher’s aide. Become a mentor to kids who’ve gotten themselves into minor trouble with the law. Help the kids learn how to get along with others; how to choose between right and wrong, take provide in themselves and show respect to others.*

If all you do is b***h and moan about how bad things are, without offering anything viable to help fix things, all you’re doing is adding to the problems education already faces. And, these are problems that’ll not go away on their own.

*I tutor 2 high school kids twice a week; am a substitute teacher, for all grade levels, for the local school district I live in, usually 2-3 times a week; and, am 1 of 5 mentors, helping 25 “troubled youth” avoid major jail time in their futures through our local COMPASS Program (via 90 minute, weekly meetings for 16 weeks).

So, there are several ways whereby people can help our kids get better and smarter. You just need to be willing to give of yourselves instead of being just complainers. Like my old football coach used to say, “If you can’t help us, don’t hurt us.”

—————- br Texas T***h, br br Given your written c... (show quote)

So you believe that our public school system is above criticism? And of course the solution is to throw money at the very real problems that do exist. If incompetent teachers could be fired that would be an immense improvement, but short of being convicted of a felony, getting rid of a poor teacher is almost impossible. Good for you for providing needed help to these young people. But our public education system IS in sorry shape, and reviling someone for daring to point it out certainly doesn't do anything to solve the problem.

Seth

alabuck wrote:

—————-
Texas T***h,

Given your written complaint about American public education, I suppose you consider yourself to be a “shining example” of something other than a public education graduate. If so, perhaps you should follow your own advice and go to Japan and start your basic education all over.

This is hysterical! You’re complaining about U.S. public education and you made 4 mistakes in writing only 1 (bad) sentence.

First) Unless the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” “Bingo” needs a punctuation mark after it. Hint, it’s an “!.” And, if the person you were responding to was named “Bingo,” the name “Bingo” should’ve had a comma following it, at the very least.
Second) If “Bingo” wasn’t your subject’s name, the “a” following “Bingo” needs to be capitalized.
Third) You, apparently, don’t know the difference in definitions and the use of between the words, “then” and “than.”
Fourth) You left out the word “a” that should’ve followed the word “than” and

I may be nit-picking, but it’s fairly common among the posters in here to use “then” when “than” is the correct word. It’s also common for a lot of people to misuse the words, “too” and “there.” Oftentimes they’ll write “to” when “too” or “two” would be correct and “there” when “they’re” or “their” are the proper words to use.

And, NO!, I’m not an English teacher. However, I AM a proud product of public education, which includes my college degrees. I know I make gramatical mistakes, but I’d really try not to make any, especially when complaining about my country’s educational system. If you and the other complainers in here want to see improvement in our public education system, tell President Gutless Wonder to quit taking our tax dollars away from our public schools so they can be funded enough to get and keep good teachers and get the support the teachers need to do their jobs without taking from their own purses to cover the costs. Find ways to build new schools; schools with the tools needed to teach kids the sk**l they need to get a decent job in today’s world.

Find ways to get parents involved in their kids’ education. Find ways to stop parents having to work 2-3 jobs just to pay the rent, utilities and buy food. That way, they’ll have more time to spend with their kids and help them learn.

Instead of just sitting back and complaining about how bad education is, get off your asses and actually help the schools and the kids. Become a tutor, a substitute teacher, or a teacher’s aide. Become a mentor to kids who’ve gotten themselves into minor trouble with the law. Help the kids learn how to get along with others; how to choose between right and wrong, take provide in themselves and show respect to others.*

If all you do is b***h and moan about how bad things are, without offering anything viable to help fix things, all you’re doing is adding to the problems education already faces. And, these are problems that’ll not go away on their own.

*I tutor 2 high school kids twice a week; am a substitute teacher, for all grade levels, for the local school district I live in, usually 2-3 times a week; and, am 1 of 5 mentors, helping 25 “troubled youth” avoid major jail time in their futures through our local COMPASS Program (via 90 minute, weekly meetings for 16 weeks).

So, there are several ways whereby people can help our kids get better and smarter. You just need to be willing to give of yourselves instead of being just complainers. Like my old football coach used to say, “If you can’t help us, don’t hurt us.”

—————- br Texas T***h, br br Given your written c... (show quote)

The logical question, after all that, is "how long ago did you attend school?"

I started the first grade in 1961 and graduated high school in 1972. Back then the public school system was excellent.

Fast forward to today, it's a completely different situation. I meet recent college graduates who are the "3 Rs" equivalent of me in the ninth grade.

gaconservative74

debeda wrote:

A lot of areas have home school co ops

Funny thing, I live in a small town in southeast Georgia. Population of the entire county is about 12,000 and we have a homeschool co op with near 100 children.

debeda

gaconservative74 wrote:

Funny thing, I live in a small town in southeast Georgia. Population of the entire county is about 12,000 and we have a homeschool co op with near 100 children.

Yep. All it takes is people willing to step up for their children and their community

bggamers Loc: georgia

Iliamna1 wrote:

HOME SCHOOL. HOME SCHOOL. HOME SCHOOL. ALL THOSE PROBLEMS WOULD GO AWAY. Yes, there are sacrifices to do this, but the children learn how to read phonetically, do math, spell and real American hitsory and the family is strengthened. And you can forget the thuggish, l*****t teacher's uions.

many stated are making many home school families live a living hell with all the paperwork and requirements they have to go through this is to encourage them to put their children back in public school

debeda

bggamers wrote:

many stated are making many home school families live a living hell with all the paperwork and requirements they have to go through this is to encourage them to put their children back in public school

Yes. There are a few states that have deemed home schooling a form of child abuse

Iliamna1

debeda wrote:

Yes. There are a few states that have deemed home schooling a form of child abuse

Copied from "She Knows"

Homeschooling regulations by state:
HSLDA, a homeschooling advocacy organization, has created a map showing which states require the most regulation.

States requiring no notice to the school district about homeschooling include Alaska, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Texas.

States with low regulation include California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Delaware.

States with moderate regulation (parental notification, plus test scores and/or professional student progress evaluations must be sent to the district) include Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland and Washington, D.C.

States with high regulation (all the above regulations, plus other requirements — e.g., curriculum approval by the state, teacher qualification of parents or home visits by state officials) include Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Vermont.

We hear a lot on the news about about people fleeing New York and California due to taxes and jobs, but there are a LOT of families who have fled those states in order to home school their children. Also issues of mandating that hyperactive children has produced parents fleeing those states so they wouldn't be coerced to medicate their hyperactive sons and daughters (more often a boy thing). I know of one private Christian school that catered to these challenging children. When they'd become feisty, they'd allow them to run laps until they came back to the monitor and tell them they were ready to sit and study. These children were NEVER punished for being high octane but they and their parents were given tools to deal with these issues. I know of several who received athletic scholarships in Texas universities and one went on to fly a stealth fighter jet! He always had a need for speed!

debeda

Iliamna1 wrote:

Copied from "She Knows"

Homeschooling regulations by state:
HSLDA, a homeschooling advocacy organization, has created a map showing which states require the most regulation.

States requiring no notice to the school district about homeschooling include Alaska, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Texas.

States with low regulation include California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Delaware.

States with moderate regulation (parental notification, plus test scores and/or professional student progress evaluations must be sent to the district) include Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland and Washington, D.C.

States with high regulation (all the above regulations, plus other requirements — e.g., curriculum approval by the state, teacher qualification of parents or home visits by state officials) include Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Vermont.

We hear a lot on the news about about people fleeing New York and California due to taxes and jobs, but there are a LOT of families who have fled those states in order to home school their children. Also issues of mandating that hyperactive children has produced parents fleeing those states so they wouldn't be coerced to medicate their hyperactive sons and daughters (more often a boy thing). I know of one private Christian school that catered to these challenging children. When they'd become feisty, they'd allow them to run laps until they came back to the monitor and tell them they were ready to sit and study. These children were NEVER punished for being high octane but they and their parents were given tools to deal with these issues. I know of several who received athletic scholarships in Texas universities and one went on to fly a stealth fighter jet! He always had a need for speed!

Copied from "She Knows" br br Homeschoo... (show quote)

Good info. And good story

bggamers Loc: georgia

Iliamna1 wrote:

Copied from "She Knows"

Homeschooling regulations by state:
HSLDA, a homeschooling advocacy organization, has created a map showing which states require the most regulation.

States requiring no notice to the school district about homeschooling include Alaska, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Texas.

States with low regulation include California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Delaware.

States with moderate regulation (parental notification, plus test scores and/or professional student progress evaluations must be sent to the district) include Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland and Washington, D.C.

States with high regulation (all the above regulations, plus other requirements — e.g., curriculum approval by the state, teacher qualification of parents or home visits by state officials) include Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Vermont.

We hear a lot on the news about about people fleeing New York and California due to taxes and jobs, but there are a LOT of families who have fled those states in order to home school their children. Also issues of mandating that hyperactive children has produced parents fleeing those states so they wouldn't be coerced to medicate their hyperactive sons and daughters (more often a boy thing). I know of one private Christian school that catered to these challenging children. When they'd become feisty, they'd allow them to run laps until they came back to the monitor and tell them they were ready to sit and study. These children were NEVER punished for being high octane but they and their parents were given tools to deal with these issues. I know of several who received athletic scholarships in Texas universities and one went on to fly a stealth fighter jet! He always had a need for speed!

Copied from "She Knows" br br Homeschoo... (show quote)

good to know thanks for post

bahmer

debeda wrote:

Good info. And good story

Amen and Amen

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Thank you for your kind reply.I did not home school my kids but I read to them and used flash cards to teach them numbers colors and ABCs. When your 5 year old is able to read before a teacher taught them you know you have accomplished something.

We have a young couple here in my apartment complex that has a 4 year old little girl and the mom is often in the courtyard tutoring her. I have stopped by on occasion and visited with them and am blown away by this child. She does simple math, addition & subtraction, although often she has to use her fingers but comes up with the correct answer. Her reading children's books is probably at 2nd grade level and her vocabulary amazes me. Mensa prospect? I can only hope. Thus, parenting does play an important part in developing intellect in children I believe. She will be attending a charter school next year~