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Sep 10, 2019 21:46:47   #
2quick4u Loc: Somewhere in central Tx...
 
Navigator wrote:
This is an easy one: Democrats believe, Republicans think and supporters of DJT know.


Spot on Nav...

Was that rambling little soliloquy from guru supposed to enlighten us philosophically..or was he simply 'putting us on notice' that ignoring all the wisdom he routinely (and graciously) share's with us was going to backfire??? Apparently, we don't have a clue about just who we are dealing with here..but it was pretty clear..we had better quit underestimating this 'deep thinker' (and/or his obvious superior intellect.....).

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Sep 10, 2019 21:58:17   #
teabag09
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


You're such a phony. Mike

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Sep 10, 2019 22:02:31   #
teabag09
 
Dwight Logan wrote:
Throughout my 84 years I have many negative observations about our country. It is a blessing to read you observations about how blessed we are. The general negativity expressed by so many has been bomblasted by you. You have not only been blessed with great oration, and I would love to have you write a text to chang college curriclum.
Many people take the the not out of the ten commandents out 10 commandments and negate our Constitution. You, however, have the most positive description of this country that I have seen in decads. Remember three things: God loves you and yours, i love you and yours, and neither will ever change. Keep us sharing your brilliant insight.
Throughout my 84 years I have many negative observ... (show quote)


Have another glass of wine Dwight. Mike

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Sep 10, 2019 22:14:28   #
cbpat1
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)




So, by framing the question in the way you did, you automatically take away any comparison to them, which is unfair.

And I love the way you say “Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information”, like you are some kind of intellectual, woodie.

Your crazier than usual lately, even for you, are you feeling alright?

Yes, we Trump supporters are very angry people. Angry because the democrats that ran for Congress promised us utopia, and all I see them doing is rag about the president and nothing else. Nothing in the way of legislation.

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Sep 10, 2019 22:41:53   #
Rose42
 
working class stiff wrote:
Aren't we all? Humans are complex creatures.


Yes I agree. My mistake for not including we’re all that way. At least, thats what I think.

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Sep 11, 2019 05:53:11   #
Tug484
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Simply put based on what you said to you anyone who agrees with you is a thinker and any who disagrees is just a believer. I know that is what you BELIEVE.



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Sep 11, 2019 06:08:02   #
Dwight Logan
 
teabag09 wrote:
Have another glass of wine Dwight. Mike


Mike, I have been in AA for over 44 years, have written mant books and have preached hundreds of sermons. I have taught
thousands of people at seminars to learn how to read and study texts, prepare for and take exams and speed read. They learned how to read and comprehend information, not condem.

i notice that you accuse many people of drinking. Therefore, You are now on my prayer list.

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Sep 11, 2019 06:11:56   #
Big Kahuna
 
Rose42 wrote:
You believe you think yet have often confused your opinion with fact. You also disappear when shown facts that dispute what you’ve said.

Sometimes you’re a thinker but you’re often a believer too.


I believe and also am a very higher thinking person that knows that l*****ts are now absolutely insane and need psychiatric help.

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Sep 11, 2019 07:34:01   #
Big dog
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


Stay out of puddles, you’re in over your head for such a shallow person you seem to be.

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Sep 11, 2019 09:12:36   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
rumitoid wrote:
I believe I think.


Lucky for you that is allowed, not that your thinking is correct.

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Sep 11, 2019 09:37:01   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


I've seen this from both sides. But far less thinking goes into using an example of a similar but worse incident involving someone else; than to respond with a personal attack such as calling the one you don't have a logical answer for a r****t, Islamiphobe, or other totally unrelated name, don't you think?

But there are people on both sides who will hear a news story from their favorite news outlet and believe it simply because it was told by that news outlet. From myself, who gets my news mostly online where I can immediately check out the facts by going to the source in most cases; I can say I see far more of this from the left. And when I challenge the accuracy of a Fox story and present the documentation of their error, the majority of Fox news listeners will grudgingly accept the story was wrong. When I do the same with those whose favorite is CNN or Wapo; I almost always get a personal attack.

Now I'm waiting for the anger.

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Sep 11, 2019 09:45:52   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
teabag09 wrote:
Have another glass of wine Dwight. Mike


No wine, no wisdom.
Too much wine same result.

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Sep 11, 2019 10:57:18   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


BS, what you are really doing is saying you are a superior human being and bashing people who both think and have faith. Still pushing your divide and conquer strategy and to hell with your fellow man and unity.

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Sep 11, 2019 11:15:06   #
Kazudy
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


I don’t think or believe, I know. MAGA!!!

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Sep 11, 2019 11:21:06   #
Dwight Logan
 
Dwight Logan wrote:
Mike, I have been in AA for over 44 years, have written mant books and have preached hundreds of sermons. I have taught
thousands of people at seminars to learn how to read and study texts, prepare for and take exams and speed read. They learned how to read and comprehend information, not condem.

i notice that you accuse many people of drinking. Therefore, You are now on my prayer list.

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