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Sep 10, 2019 12:25:03   #
Armageddun (a regular here)
 
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr. Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr. Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr. Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr. Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.
Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr. Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr. Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status’s which read: “So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It’s been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn’t even respond….Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system.”

Mr. Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world’s most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalization. 2018 saw Canada’s euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

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When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one’s life was made legal, some people would feel pressurized into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very real possibility of the vulnerable being pressurized to die. Ms. McInnes said: “My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalized, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society.”

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that “the ‘right to die’ for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable.”
We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC’s Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: “If assisted dying is legalized in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect.”

Ms. Tully continued: “Mr. Tagert’s story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down.”

LifeNews Note: Courtesy of SPUC. The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children is a leading pro-life organization in the United Kingdom.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:28:51   #
Carol Kelly (a regular here)
 
Armageddun wrote:
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr. Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr. Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr. Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr. Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.
Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr. Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr. Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status’s which read: “So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It’s been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn’t even respond….Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system.”

Mr. Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world’s most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalization. 2018 saw Canada’s euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

Click here to sign up for pro-life news alerts from LifeNews.com
When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one’s life was made legal, some people would feel pressurized into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very real possibility of the vulnerable being pressurized to die. Ms. McInnes said: “My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalized, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society.”

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that “the ‘right to die’ for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable.”
We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC’s Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: “If assisted dying is legalized in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect.”

Ms. Tully continued: “Mr. Tagert’s story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down.”

LifeNews Note: Courtesy of SPUC. The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children is a leading pro-life organization in the United Kingdom.
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assis... (show quote)


Our death is Gods decision and should be left in his hands. No matter what the situation, there’s a reason for it and as human beings, creatures of God, we should bow to his decision and remain faithful. PS it has nothing to do with monetary budgets. That’s how far down the pipes we’ve pushed Christianity. Shame on us.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:34:19   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Our death is Gods decision and should be left in his hands. No matter what the situation, there’s a reason for it and as human beings, creatures of God, we should bow to his decision and remain faithful. PS it has nothing to do with monetary budgets. That’s how far down the pipes we’ve pushed Christianity. Shame on us.


Amen and Amen but it does take a lot of courage to face some of these situations alone or at least they appear that way.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:35:41   #
Carol Kelly (a regular here)
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen but it does take a lot of courage to face some of these situations alone or at least they appear that way.


That is all part of God’s purpose.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:36:35   #
Carol Kelly (a regular here)
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen but it does take a lot of courage to face some of these situations alone or at least they appear that way.


We are never alone, Bahmer.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:38:10   #
Armageddun (a regular here)
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Our death is Gods decision and should be left in his hands. No matter what the situation, there’s a reason for it and as human beings, creatures of God, we should bow to his decision and remain faithful. PS it has nothing to do with monetary budgets. That’s how far down the pipes we’ve pushed Christianity. Shame on us.


Amen

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Sep 10, 2019 12:38:13   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
That is all part of God’s purpose.


I know but those that don't know God are the ones that will opt for assisted suicide and that is the area where they really need counseling and to know what God says and wants for us.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:40:38   #
Armageddun (a regular here)
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We are never alone, Bahmer.


Amen, I am sure this must be a decision between a man/woman and God, Not the insurance companies or the legal systems.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:42:36   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We are never alone, Bahmer.


Those that aren't saved don't know that though.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:42:57   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Armageddun wrote:
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr. Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr. Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr. Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr. Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.
Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr. Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr. Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status’s which read: “So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It’s been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn’t even respond….Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system.”

Mr. Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world’s most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalization. 2018 saw Canada’s euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

Click here to sign up for pro-life news alerts from LifeNews.com
When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one’s life was made legal, some people would feel pressurized into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very real possibility of the vulnerable being pressurized to die. Ms. McInnes said: “My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalized, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society.”

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that “the ‘right to die’ for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable.”
We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC’s Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: “If assisted dying is legalized in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect.”

Ms. Tully continued: “Mr. Tagert’s story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down.”

LifeNews Note: Courtesy of SPUC. The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children is a leading pro-life organization in the United Kingdom.
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assis... (show quote)


Yay,if there is no chance for survival!!!

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Sep 10, 2019 12:52:07   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
Armageddun wrote:
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr. Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr. Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr. Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr. Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.
Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr. Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr. Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status’s which read: “So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It’s been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn’t even respond….Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system.”

Mr. Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world’s most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalization. 2018 saw Canada’s euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

Click here to sign up for pro-life news alerts from LifeNews.com
When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one’s life was made legal, some people would feel pressurized into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very real possibility of the vulnerable being pressurized to die. Ms. McInnes said: “My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalized, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society.”

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that “the ‘right to die’ for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable.”
We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC’s Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: “If assisted dying is legalized in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect.”

Ms. Tully continued: “Mr. Tagert’s story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down.”

LifeNews Note: Courtesy of SPUC. The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children is a leading pro-life organization in the United Kingdom.
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assis... (show quote)


I do not believe in murder, regardless of the sanitized label. I think a patient has a right to refuse treatments and medications to treat their condition. I do not believe that a country, state, city or physician has the right to make that decision for a patient. Terminal patents should be given proper care until they pass, meaning pain medication as needed, food and water...even when they elect to discontinue other treatments for their condition.

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Sep 10, 2019 12:57:36   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I do not believe in murder, regardless of the sanitized label. I think a patient has a right to refuse treatments and medications to treat their condition. I do not believe that a country, state, city or physician has the right to make that decision for a patient. Terminal patents should be given proper care until they pass, meaning pain medication as needed, food and water...even when they elect to discontinue other treatments for their condition.


This is the main reason for not going along with the state run insurance programs like they have in Canada because it all comes down to some bureaucrat deciding on your treatment instead of a doctor which would I hope have your best interest at heart. Just look at the mess Washington is in and then ask yourself if you really want them in control of your healthcare. My answer is no way do I want them even close to my healthcare.

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Sep 10, 2019 13:00:36   #
badbobby (a regular here)
 
Armageddun wrote:
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr. Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr. Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr. Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr. Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.
Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr. Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr. Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status’s which read: “So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It’s been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn’t even respond….Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system.”

Mr. Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world’s most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalization. 2018 saw Canada’s euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

Click here to sign up for pro-life news alerts from LifeNews.com
When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one’s life was made legal, some people would feel pressurized into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very real possibility of the vulnerable being pressurized to die. Ms. McInnes said: “My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalized, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society.”

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that “the ‘right to die’ for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable.”
We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC’s Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: “If assisted dying is legalized in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect.”

Ms. Tully continued: “Mr. Tagert’s story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down.”

LifeNews Note: Courtesy of SPUC. The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children is a leading pro-life organization in the United Kingdom.
Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assis... (show quote)

Armi
when it gets to the point that I cannot live without 24 hour assistance
.I want to pull the plug
being such a burden on your loved ones just isn't right

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Sep 10, 2019 13:06:10   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
bahmer wrote:
This is the main reason for not going along with the state run insurance programs like they have in Canada because it all comes down to some bureaucrat deciding on your treatment instead of a doctor which would I hope have your best interest at heart. Just look at the mess Washington is in and then ask yourself if you really want them in control of your healthcare. My answer is no way do I want them even close to my healthcare.


I wholeheartedly agree! I am in a unique position, I have relatives who are doctors and although they are not supposed to treat their kinfolk, when I am under the weather I call them first. But, thanks to G*d, I don't get sick often. I also have a living will.....as I think everyone should.


Socialized medicine, in my opinion, is a state's answer to overpopulation and ridding themselves of elderly and "undesirables." Sound familiar?

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Sep 10, 2019 13:09:05   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree! I am in a unique position, I have relatives who are doctors and although they are not supposed to treat their kinfolk, when I am under the weather I call them first. But, thanks to G*d, I don't get sick often. I also have a living will.....as I think everyone should.


Socialized medicine, in my opinion, is a state's answer to overpopulation and ridding themselves of elderly and "undesirables." Sound familiar?


Sounds just like Germany back in WWII as I recall. We sure don't want a repeat of that that's for sure.

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