Kangaroo Pictographs From India Challenge Evolution
Sep 1, 2019 05:29:18 #
by Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Timothy Clarey, Ph.D.
Evolutionary narratives insist that kangaroos, and the marsupials they represent, evolved millions of years ago in Australia. Supposedly, that’s why today they only live there. In contrast, Genesis teaches that all animals—including kangaroos—migrated to their present locations from the Ark’s landing place “on the mountains of Ararat”1 in or near modern-day Turkey. New evidence fits this biblical option.
University of Madras archaeologist Jinu Koshy stumbled upon a jackpot. He found thousands of unique pieces of rock art in remote India while surveying the western Andhra Pradesh region. The red ochre pictographs include stick-figured humans, crude cows, deer, boar, and creatures that Koshy says look more like some kind of kangaroo than any other animal.
Marsupials in India? According to an article in an Indian online magazine named Scroll, the pictograph shapes show kangaroo similarities, including front limbs held aloft, kangaroo-like snouts, and possible pouches.2
In 2017, I briefly explained Genesis-based marsupial expectations: “Neither a creation-based nor an evolution-believing scientist was there to observe and record when marsupials actually got to Australia, so both must suggest and test scenarios.”3 Evidence of kangaroos in India add new data to help test the two scenarios.
Evolution’s obstacle has kangaroos living strictly in Australia long before ancient inhabitants painted these pictographs in India. This assumption forced Koshy to make a strange suggestion: Possibly the ancient rock artists worked from long-distant memories of ancestors who had back-migrated from Australia to India.
Koshy’s colleague and pictograph expert Chandramouli Navuluri from Pondicherry University “finds all this ridiculous,” according to Scroll. Similarly, an Australian rock art expert who wished to remain anonymous “dismissed Koshy’s interpretation.”2 But neither expert offered a better option.
One optional explanation involves swapping evolutionary assumptions for the well-attested history from the book of Genesis.
Just because kangaroos live only in Australia today doesn’t mean they only lived in Australia in the past, especially in the first centuries after the Flood. After all, India lies right on the route between Turkey and Australia—it’s a relatively short hop.
Possibly predators wiped out the post-Flood kangaroos from Asia and elsewhere but not from Australia. A narrower expanse of ocean separated Australia from Papua New Guinea during the peak of the Ice Age. Marsupials may have crossed those narrow waters before sea levels rose to expand the sea between the continents to today’s shorelines, barring the water passage for late-arriving predators.
Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations. Tweet: Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations. Indian Kangaroo Pictographs Challenge Evolution: https://www.icr.org/article/indian-kangaroo-pictographs-challenge-evolution/ @ICRscience @icrbthomas #Science #History
Earth’s rising sea level would have provided Australian marsupials with a watery shield of protection.4
Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations.
References
1. Genesis 8:4.
2. Chandrasekaran, A. Did kangaroos ever live in India? A new discovery has some archaeologists hopping with excitement.
3. Thomas, B. 2017. Why Do Kangaroos Live Only in Australia? Acts & Facts. 46 (2): 20.
4. Clarey, T. 2016. The Ice Age and the Scattering of Nations. Acts & Facts. 45 (8): 9.
TBC Staff
Evolutionary narratives insist that kangaroos, and the marsupials they represent, evolved millions of years ago in Australia. Supposedly, that’s why today they only live there. In contrast, Genesis teaches that all animals—including kangaroos—migrated to their present locations from the Ark’s landing place “on the mountains of Ararat”1 in or near modern-day Turkey. New evidence fits this biblical option.
University of Madras archaeologist Jinu Koshy stumbled upon a jackpot. He found thousands of unique pieces of rock art in remote India while surveying the western Andhra Pradesh region. The red ochre pictographs include stick-figured humans, crude cows, deer, boar, and creatures that Koshy says look more like some kind of kangaroo than any other animal.
Marsupials in India? According to an article in an Indian online magazine named Scroll, the pictograph shapes show kangaroo similarities, including front limbs held aloft, kangaroo-like snouts, and possible pouches.2
In 2017, I briefly explained Genesis-based marsupial expectations: “Neither a creation-based nor an evolution-believing scientist was there to observe and record when marsupials actually got to Australia, so both must suggest and test scenarios.”3 Evidence of kangaroos in India add new data to help test the two scenarios.
Evolution’s obstacle has kangaroos living strictly in Australia long before ancient inhabitants painted these pictographs in India. This assumption forced Koshy to make a strange suggestion: Possibly the ancient rock artists worked from long-distant memories of ancestors who had back-migrated from Australia to India.
Koshy’s colleague and pictograph expert Chandramouli Navuluri from Pondicherry University “finds all this ridiculous,” according to Scroll. Similarly, an Australian rock art expert who wished to remain anonymous “dismissed Koshy’s interpretation.”2 But neither expert offered a better option.
One optional explanation involves swapping evolutionary assumptions for the well-attested history from the book of Genesis.
Just because kangaroos live only in Australia today doesn’t mean they only lived in Australia in the past, especially in the first centuries after the Flood. After all, India lies right on the route between Turkey and Australia—it’s a relatively short hop.
Possibly predators wiped out the post-Flood kangaroos from Asia and elsewhere but not from Australia. A narrower expanse of ocean separated Australia from Papua New Guinea during the peak of the Ice Age. Marsupials may have crossed those narrow waters before sea levels rose to expand the sea between the continents to today’s shorelines, barring the water passage for late-arriving predators.
Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations. Tweet: Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations. Indian Kangaroo Pictographs Challenge Evolution: https://www.icr.org/article/indian-kangaroo-pictographs-challenge-evolution/ @ICRscience @icrbthomas #Science #History
Earth’s rising sea level would have provided Australian marsupials with a watery shield of protection.4
Evidence of marsupials in India’s recent past exactly fits biblical expectations.
References
1. Genesis 8:4.
2. Chandrasekaran, A. Did kangaroos ever live in India? A new discovery has some archaeologists hopping with excitement.
3. Thomas, B. 2017. Why Do Kangaroos Live Only in Australia? Acts & Facts. 46 (2): 20.
4. Clarey, T. 2016. The Ice Age and the Scattering of Nations. Acts & Facts. 45 (8): 9.
TBC Staff
Sep 1, 2019 06:22:05 #
Zemirah wrote:
by Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Timothy Clarey, Ph.D. ... (show quote)
1) There are millions of life forms that have evolved over the years how is it Kangaroos are representative for all life on this planet?
2) Why couldn't evolution and creation exist together? Evolution doesn't eliminate the possibility of a god why are theists so certain evolution couldn't exist?
Sep 1, 2019 06:48:33 #
PeterS, Nothing on earth has ever evolved, not even once. If it were so proof would have been found. It has not.
It remains a theory because it is merely the imagination of men who do not wish to bow before God.
If it were so, the book of Genesis, the foundation book for God's entire revelation to man would be a lie.
"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?"
Numbers 23:19
"Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind." 1 Samuel 15:29
"So that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us."
Hebrews 6:18
"Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David."
Psalm 89:35
It remains a theory because it is merely the imagination of men who do not wish to bow before God.
If it were so, the book of Genesis, the foundation book for God's entire revelation to man would be a lie.
"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?"
Numbers 23:19
"Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind." 1 Samuel 15:29
"So that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us."
Hebrews 6:18
"Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David."
Psalm 89:35
PeterS wrote:
1) There are millions of life forms that have evolved over the years how is it Kangaroos are representative for all life on this planet?
2) Why couldn't evolution and creation exist together? Evolution doesn't eliminate the possibility of a god why are theists so certain evolution couldn't exist?
2) Why couldn't evolution and creation exist together? Evolution doesn't eliminate the possibility of a god why are theists so certain evolution couldn't exist?
Sep 1, 2019 10:28:16 #
Zemirah wrote:
by Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Timothy Clarey, Ph.D. ... (show quote)
No one says that marsupials evolved in Australia...only that they still exist there... in great numbers... probably due to its distance from other continents...
First sentence is wrong...
Sep 1, 2019 10:29:41 #
Zemirah wrote:
by Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Timothy Clarey, Ph.D. ... (show quote)
Marsupials have always existed on other continents... the possum is a marsupial...
Sep 2, 2019 10:38:42 #
Sep 2, 2019 11:00:19 #
Zemirah wrote:
PeterS, Nothing on earth has ever evolved, not eve... (show quote)
People either believe the bible is God’s word or they don’t. To not believe a part of it is to believe God a liar.
Sep 8, 2019 07:09:18 #
The kangaroo was my topic.
There are 355 subspecies of marsupials. I appreciate your biological/zoological knowledge, but the opossum is a very ugly little varmint, - having chased them away from the hen house, as well as unattended cat food, outside my country home on a regular basis.
So what do you know about the kangaroo 4,000 to 5,000 years ago that adds further enlightenment to where they lived, both before and after Noah's flood?
There are 355 subspecies of marsupials. I appreciate your biological/zoological knowledge, but the opossum is a very ugly little varmint, - having chased them away from the hen house, as well as unattended cat food, outside my country home on a regular basis.
So what do you know about the kangaroo 4,000 to 5,000 years ago that adds further enlightenment to where they lived, both before and after Noah's flood?
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Marsupials have always existed on other continents... the possum is a marsupial...
Sep 8, 2019 07:14:57 #
God did not write that 1st sentence, so it's O.K., Canuckus, regrettable, but O.K.
Actually, it was a quote from a young scientist who should have corrected it before publishing.
Actually, it was a quote from a young scientist who should have corrected it before publishing.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No one says that marsupials evolved in Australia...only that they still exist there... in great numbers... probably due to its distance from other continents...
First sentence is wrong...
First sentence is wrong...
Sep 8, 2019 07:19:55 #
You are so right, Rose42, and that is the crux of the matter.
Rose42 wrote:
People either believe the bible is God’s word or they don’t. To not believe a part of it is to believe God a liar.
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