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Aug 25, 2019 21:19:34   #
debeda
 
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-admin-hears-plan-to-use-data-from-google-and-apple-to-detect-mental-illness-prevent-gun-violence

Because anything outside the dem narrative is "h**e speech"

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Aug 25, 2019 21:28:34   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-admin-hears-plan-to-use-data-from-google-and-apple-to-detect-mental-illness-prevent-gun-violence

Because anything outside the dem narrative is "h**e speech"


They're all ( the proggies) mentally ill to some extent or they wouldn't be trying to weaken the citizens defense capabilities.

We, on the right realize it's not the gun who is crazy.

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Aug 25, 2019 21:30:01   #
debeda
 
byronglimish wrote:
They're all ( the proggies) mentally ill to some extent or they wouldn't be trying to weaken the citizens defense capabilities.

We, on the right realize it's not the gun who is crazy.



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Aug 25, 2019 23:14:46   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-admin-hears-plan-to-use-data-from-google-and-apple-to-detect-mental-illness-prevent-gun-violence

Because anything outside the dem narrative is "h**e speech"


And yet you make everything within the Dem narrative "h**e speech." I do not h**e Trump. You say I do. Why? Because I constantly report on his aberrant, dangerous, and unstable words and actions that damage this country, are a direct threat to national security, and a stain on our image. That is h**e or it is love of country; the former to you because you support Trump.

"Thou shalt not criticize the president or thou art a minion of Satan and a H**er." Shut down all free speech by Democrats by calling their comments--otherwise proven by audio and video tapes--as an irrational action of a sore loser, a c****e agitator, or a political flunky. That is the typical spiel of misdirection-propaganda by the Right.

Sorry, I just sincerely hope, debeda, that you brought this link up because the whole idea of it is too horrible, flawed, and dangerous to contemplate. Tell me that's your reason. Please!

In the wake of last weekend's mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas, President Donald Trump cited "mentally ill monsters," as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday.

"We must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment but, when necessary, involuntary confinement," he said at the briefing.

Hahahahaha..."involuntary confinement." Unfreakingreal! This is not a stretch to report This was part of Hitler's first acts as Chancellor: to lock up the mentally slow and ill to an involuntary confinement, to later torture, experiment on, and k**l them. No due process or even charges brought: just identify as a possible threat and you are caged. Who? Maybe "the Squad." Maybe the hosts of CNN and MSM. What the problem is, is that you naively think it can't happen here. But there is no better groundwork to an authoritarian government than this proposal.

Specifically what is wrong with this terrible proposal:
1. "It is important to note that the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and are far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of violence," the American Psychiatric Association responded. "Rhetoric that argues otherwise will further stigmatize and interfere with people accessing needed treatment." https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/publichealth/81495

2. Reflecting on the above reason, why would anyone risk possibly being interred for wh**ever possible problem when they may be held involuntary held for having an illness they report, even if it is non-threatening.

3. Blaming the mentally ill community relieves lawmakers from making serious and needed gun control overcoming the inconsistent, contradictory, and inadequate laws to curtail gun violence: if it is as the Master I***t says, "'mentally ill monsters,'" as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday." Wholly d********g rhetoric.

4. Trump stigmatizes, and this is not an out of place or absurd connection, exactly as Hitler did In N**i Germany. Blame that group for our problems and take them off the street and we will have peace on earth. Ugly beyond comprehension, yet typical of dictators--it can happen here!

That link is a connection to 1939 Germany. Call that h**e, absurd, or warped political excessive propaganda...or open your eyes.

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Aug 25, 2019 23:21:22   #
Rose42
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-admin-hears-plan-to-use-data-from-google-and-apple-to-detect-mental-illness-prevent-gun-violence

Because anything outside the dem narrative is "h**e speech"


Very bad idea but many of us saw it coming. Ramp up the hysteria over guns - and thats reflected on the OPP - then you have an excuse to ramp up surveillance.

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Aug 25, 2019 23:30:14   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
And yet you make everything within the Dem narrative "h**e speech." I do not h**e Trump. You say I do. Why? Because I constantly report on his aberrant, dangerous, and unstable words and actions that damage this country, are a direct threat to national security, and a stain on our image. That is h**e or it is love of country; the former to you because you support Trump.

"Thou shalt not criticize the president or thou art a minion of Satan and a H**er." Shut down all free speech by Democrats by calling their comments--otherwise proven by audio and video tapes--as an irrational action of a sore loser, a c****e agitator, or a political flunky. That is the typical spiel of misdirection-propaganda by the Right.

Sorry, I just sincerely hope, debeda, that you brought this link up because the whole idea of it is too horrible, flawed, and dangerous to contemplate. Tell me that's your reason. Please!

In the wake of last weekend's mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas, President Donald Trump cited "mentally ill monsters," as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday.

"We must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment but, when necessary, involuntary confinement," he said at the briefing.

Hahahahaha..."involuntary confinement." Unfreakingreal! This is not a stretch to report This was part of Hitler's first acts as Chancellor: to lock up the mentally slow and ill to an involuntary confinement, to later torture, experiment on, and k**l them. No due process or even charges brought: just identify as a possible threat and you are caged. Who? Maybe "the Squad." Maybe the hosts of CNN and MSM. What the problem is, is that you naively think it can't happen here. But there is no better groundwork to an authoritarian government than this proposal.

Specifically what is wrong with this terrible proposal:
1. "It is important to note that the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and are far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of violence," the American Psychiatric Association responded. "Rhetoric that argues otherwise will further stigmatize and interfere with people accessing needed treatment." https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/publichealth/81495

2. Reflecting on the above reason, why would anyone risk possibly being interred for wh**ever possible problem when they may be held involuntary held for having an illness they report, even if it is non-threatening.

3. Blaming the mentally ill community relieves lawmakers from making serious and needed gun control overcoming the inconsistent, contradictory, and inadequate laws to curtail gun violence: if it is as the Master I***t says, "'mentally ill monsters,'" as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday." Wholly d********g rhetoric.

4. Trump stigmatizes, and this is not an out of place or absurd connection, exactly as Hitler did In N**i Germany. Blame that group for our problems and take them off the street and we will have peace on earth. Ugly beyond comprehension, yet typical of dictators--it can happen here!

That link is a connection to 1939 Germany. Call that h**e, absurd, or warped political excessive propaganda...or open your eyes.
And yet you make everything within the Dem narrati... (show quote)


I find this idea wrong for many reasons. First and foremost, one or two statements do not mental illness make. ALSO I made the comment I did because Google is already incredibly biased against free thought. Any American who would be impacted by this sort of thing, left OR right leaning, should be appalled at this idea, and the manner of implementation.

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Aug 25, 2019 23:33:18   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
And yet you make everything within the Dem narrative "h**e speech." I do not h**e Trump. You say I do. Why? Because I constantly report on his aberrant, dangerous, and unstable words and actions that damage this country, are a direct threat to national security, and a stain on our image. That is h**e or it is love of country; the former to you because you support Trump.

"Thou shalt not criticize the president or thou art a minion of Satan and a H**er." Shut down all free speech by Democrats by calling their comments--otherwise proven by audio and video tapes--as an irrational action of a sore loser, a c****e agitator, or a political flunky. That is the typical spiel of misdirection-propaganda by the Right.

Sorry, I just sincerely hope, debeda, that you brought this link up because the whole idea of it is too horrible, flawed, and dangerous to contemplate. Tell me that's your reason. Please!

In the wake of last weekend's mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas, President Donald Trump cited "mentally ill monsters," as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday.

"We must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment but, when necessary, involuntary confinement," he said at the briefing.

Hahahahaha..."involuntary confinement." Unfreakingreal! This is not a stretch to report This was part of Hitler's first acts as Chancellor: to lock up the mentally slow and ill to an involuntary confinement, to later torture, experiment on, and k**l them. No due process or even charges brought: just identify as a possible threat and you are caged. Who? Maybe "the Squad." Maybe the hosts of CNN and MSM. What the problem is, is that you naively think it can't happen here. But there is no better groundwork to an authoritarian government than this proposal.

Specifically what is wrong with this terrible proposal:
1. "It is important to note that the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and are far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of violence," the American Psychiatric Association responded. "Rhetoric that argues otherwise will further stigmatize and interfere with people accessing needed treatment." https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/publichealth/81495

2. Reflecting on the above reason, why would anyone risk possibly being interred for wh**ever possible problem when they may be held involuntary held for having an illness they report, even if it is non-threatening.

3. Blaming the mentally ill community relieves lawmakers from making serious and needed gun control overcoming the inconsistent, contradictory, and inadequate laws to curtail gun violence: if it is as the Master I***t says, "'mentally ill monsters,'" as a source of violence in a press briefing Monday." Wholly d********g rhetoric.

4. Trump stigmatizes, and this is not an out of place or absurd connection, exactly as Hitler did In N**i Germany. Blame that group for our problems and take them off the street and we will have peace on earth. Ugly beyond comprehension, yet typical of dictators--it can happen here!

That link is a connection to 1939 Germany. Call that h**e, absurd, or warped political excessive propaganda...or open your eyes.
And yet you make everything within the Dem narrati... (show quote)


PS this is not an indictment of President Trump - tho you did your best to make it so. If there are parallels to be drawn between this idea and Hitler's regime, I would lay it at the feet of Google. Who, as we all know, is working with the Chinese government to further regulate and control the Chinese populace mostly based simply on their opinions and associations. This is scary, dystopian stuff, IMO

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Aug 26, 2019 09:58:17   #
Lonewolf
 
debeda wrote:
PS this is not an indictment of President Trump - tho you did your best to make it so. If there are parallels to be drawn between this idea and Hitler's regime, I would lay it at the feet of Google. Who, as we all know, is working with the Chinese government to further regulate and control the Chinese populace mostly based simply on their opinions and associations. This is scary, dystopian stuff, IMO


You just got to know our government is doing the same thing

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Aug 26, 2019 17:02:38   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
byronglimish wrote:
They're all ( the proggies) mentally ill to some extent or they wouldn't be trying to weaken the citizens defense capabilities.

We, on the right realize it's not the gun who is crazy.


Finally, people are seeing the real problem. Guns aren't going to fire themselves and who would shoot up a store or school?

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Aug 26, 2019 17:06:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
debeda wrote:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-admin-hears-plan-to-use-data-from-google-and-apple-to-detect-mental-illness-prevent-gun-violence

Because anything outside the dem narrative is "h**e speech"


Agree, not a good idea. it's bad enough that Google listens to our conversations from our inactive phones. Way too invasive.

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Aug 26, 2019 17:32:36   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Finally, people are seeing the real problem. Guns aren't going to fire themselves and who would shoot up a store or school?


That's just it!

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Aug 27, 2019 01:35:24   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Very bad idea but many of us saw it coming. Ramp up the hysteria over guns - and thats reflected on the OPP - then you have an excuse to ramp up surveillance.


True.

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Aug 27, 2019 01:36:30   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
I find this idea wrong for many reasons. First and foremost, one or two statements do not mental illness make. ALSO I made the comment I did because Google is already incredibly biased against free thought. Any American who would be impacted by this sort of thing, left OR right leaning, should be appalled at this idea, and the manner of implementation.


Thank God, my friend.

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Aug 27, 2019 01:37:44   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
PS this is not an indictment of President Trump - tho you did your best to make it so. If there are parallels to be drawn between this idea and Hitler's regime, I would lay it at the feet of Google. Who, as we all know, is working with the Chinese government to further regulate and control the Chinese populace mostly based simply on their opinions and associations. This is scary, dystopian stuff, IMO


OMG, debeda. Wh**ever....

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Aug 27, 2019 01:40:42   #
rumitoid
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Finally, people are seeing the real problem. Guns aren't going to fire themselves and who would shoot up a store or school?


"Who would shoot up a store or school"? DUH! A person with a gun.

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