Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

A phases I am sure we have seen, and may have used at times. Yet when a person uses it, it seems that t***h is not what they intend to speak. Both side seem to give only their part of the t***h, and omit any part they wish to hid, that isn't t***h. T***h is when all points are covered, and all points of view are taken into consideration.
Lets take all the talk on gun control that I am sure may have been on here in that week or so after ElPaso, and Ohio. Without reading any of them I bet I can anil it all down in short order.
Anti-2 A, to do nothing about all the guns is placing everyone in danger.We need to get all guns out of the hands of everyone. If there were no guns, that would never happen. I didn't cover them all I am sure, yet their main talking points are tied to what I posted in some way.
Por-2A. Gons save lives. A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, and so on.
So I ask the anti-2A folks, when was the last time you honestly looked at what strict gun laws leads to? Have you ever be honest enough to bring up places like Chicago in your talking points? Didn't think so. So lets take a look at that one city and see what we find.
1- The escalating murder rate in Chicago has given rise to a new claim – that Chicago gun laws are lax, weak, and ineffective. When the t***h is, Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation. Yet with that said, Aug 05, 2018 · Chicago police records show 44 people were shot on Sunday, including five who were k**led. In three hours beginning at 1:30 a.m., records show, 30 were shot and two k**led in 10 incidents. Jun 04, 2019 · Chicago police say more than 50 people were shot, eight of them fatally, in gun violence over the weekend. Two people were stabbed to death, bringing the total number of homicides to 10. So why are you not crying about this?
Now I ask the pro-2A, How many of the above could a good guy with a gun stop? Or can it be that the good guy would be numbered among the dead?
So the t***h, (at lest as I see it) is simple. Guns loke drugs, would simply end up as a black market item. Much less red tape, and only the bad guy would have them. They would free to invade any home they wished with no fear of resistances. Crime would go up, not down. So are guns a deterrent to mass shootings? To answer that lets look at stats.
According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950's through June 15th of 2018, 97.8 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 2.2 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them.
Need we go further? I am so looking forward to having one side say I am wrong, even though they will fail to look up the stats on their own. Just as I am looking forward to pro-2A bringing out things I am sure I have over looked. So lets have a nice discussion with out name calling, or trying to belittle others. I hope everyone knows how to do that. Name calling and belittleing only shows a lack of understanding, as well as a lack of character.

Lonewolf

hitler k**led 6 million jews we cry over ! but japan k**led 21 million chinaese and not a peep

son of witless

I listened to a guest on the radio. According to him, the police do not enforce the gun control laws on the books now. One of the biggest laws they cannot be bothered to enforce is the straw buyer law. I am thinking Chicago must have that problem.

Liberty Tree

Over 60 million unborn children have been murdered in America and you do not care one bit.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

As true as that is it isn't the topic at hand.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

Straw buyers are not as easy to enforce as one may think. Also would you say I am a 3rd party, or in violation of said law if I buy a firearm for my kids birthday? Lets say my kid can legally own it, how did I violate any laws? You see that law may look good on paper, yet it does violate my right to give my kid something he wants, even if we are both legal to own it. The only way enforcement of that law wouldn't be a violation of my constitutional rights, is if you can show that I made the exchange with full knowledge and intent of handing it over to a felon, or other party that can't legally own one. That would not be so easy to show in any court.

Lonewolf

Really I v**ed republican most of my life for that very reason then I realised just how corrupt immoral and un-American the filthy republican party is! Your the party that takes school lunches and destroyed their health insurance

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

son of witless

Peep peep peep. Just because YOU were not aware of the millions of Chinese k**led by Japan in WW2, or YOU di-int care, do not lump the rest of us in with YOU.