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Aug 14, 2019 02:24:34   #
PeterS
 
Well, we always figured that's what you meant but needed to check to make sure...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-official-statue-of-liberty-poem-refers-to-europeans/ar-AAFLdLX?ocid=spartandhp

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Aug 14, 2019 03:36:35   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:


Why does anyone take that line seriously? It was taken from a poem donated to the committee raising money for the base on which to mount the statue of Liberty. It is the sentimental, pseudo-intellectual maundering of a woman who styled herself as a poet and thought her words would help raise some money for the project.

It has not, then, now or ever had anything to do with US policy.

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Aug 14, 2019 03:48:48   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
And It Doesn't Matter
Because A Poem Carries No Legal Weight

It Was To Help Raise Money For A Base
So The Poem Was Just A Commercial

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Aug 14, 2019 07:05:44   #
badbob85037
 
PeterS wrote:


It's not just for Europe. It's for every Republican that would drown two libtards before he gets off the boat. It's for every man, woman, and child who can prove a double digit IQ, speaks English, and white as a Klansman's sheet. Where the law of the land is do them before they do you. Where queer beat downs are not only legal but mandatory. peterS your kind are not welcomed.

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Aug 14, 2019 08:00:11   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:

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Why PeterS? Do you want to replace it with the statue of Obama? Who else do you think must stand there. Edi Amin?
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Europe, correct.
How else do you expect when the Founders who first came from England run away from the tyranny of the King and into the New World, America. Columbus from Spain, Amerigo Vespucci Italian explorer all funded by the King and Queen of Spain discovered the New World America.

In addition, here is the most important.
The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the French people commemorating the alliance of France and the United States during the American Revolution. Yet, it represented much more to those individuals who proposed the gift.
https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/the-french-connection.htm

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Aug 14, 2019 09:19:11   #
America 1
 
PeterS wrote:


Couldn"t find anything else to bitch about?

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Aug 14, 2019 09:21:20   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
PeterS wrote:

"This administration finally admitted what we've known all along: They think the Statue of Liberty only applies to white people," tweeted former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, a Democratic presidential candidate.

You know they're getting desperate when they mix race baiting with identity politics. "This administration finally admitted what we've known all along", meaning if you disagree, you're on the 'wrong side of history'. Death rattles from a defunct party on it's way out the Congressional back door.

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Aug 14, 2019 09:56:21   #
peg w
 
I think we take the poem so seriously because it was our ancestors.

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Aug 14, 2019 11:19:23   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
peg w wrote:
I think we take the poem so seriously because it was our ancestors.

It's Job Was To Raise Money For The Base
By Pulling At Your Emotions
And It Still Is

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Aug 14, 2019 13:02:31   #
Pennylynn Loc: Virginia
 
We take the poem "The New Colossus" serious but for the wrong reasons.

So, let us look at the statute.....we do not call her the statute of immigration. Lady Liberty is stepping forward. She is meant to be carrying the torch of liberty from the United States to the rest of the world. The torch is not to light the way to the United States. It is to light the way to liberty to the rest of the world. It is not a beacon for immigrants to get to this country because they’re tired, they’re poor, they’re huddled, hungry, or thirsty. And in the proceeding years, that is exactly what she did. And she offered her freedom to France and the rest of Europe, and those countries came up with their own form of freedom, and their own interpretation. That's what other countries do. We have a right to choose our own forms of freedom.

It was true that many of the Founders considered slavery a terrible injustice and hoped to abolish it, but they meant to expel the freed slaves from the United States, not to live with them in equality. What many do not want to recognize is 8 of our first presidents owned slaves. Indeed, Thomas Jefferson is quoted "in general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection.”He hoped slavery would be abolished some day, but “when freed, he [the Negro] is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture.” Jefferson also expected whites eventually to displace all of the Indians of the New World. The United States, he wrote, was to be “the nest from which all America, North and South, is to be peopled,” and the hemisphere was to be entirely European… nor can we contemplate with satisfaction either blot or mixture on that surface." Jefferson died in 1826 and Liberty was delivered a shot 50 years latter. And the attitude has not changed, Calvin Coolidge in 1921 wrote regarding immigration: "There are racial considerations too grave to be brushed aside for any sentimental reasons. Biological laws tell us that certain divergent people will not mix or blend…. Quality of mind and body suggests that observance of ethnic law is as great a necessity to a nation as immigration law." Therefore, taking into account the true intent of the statute; Originally known as “Liberty Enlightening the World,” the statue was proposed by the French historian Edouard de Laboulaye to commemorate the Franco-American alliance during the American Revolution, and the prevailing attitude of our Founders, Ken Cuccinelli was correct.....

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Aug 15, 2019 09:12:43   #
dennis puthuff
 
Pennylynn is correct. Let us not tamper with the true meaning. God Bless this America !!!!!

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Aug 15, 2019 11:10:50   #
kemmer
 
JW wrote:
Why does anyone take that line seriously? It was taken from a poem donated to the committee raising money for the base on which to mount the statue of Liberty. It is the sentimental, pseudo-intellectual maundering of a woman who styled herself as a poet and thought her words would help raise some money for the project.

It has not, then, now or ever had anything to do with US policy.

Oh brrrroooother! Hahahahahahaha.... That little gem should will the idiot prize on today's OPP.

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Aug 15, 2019 13:30:41   #
JW
 
kemmer wrote:
Oh brrrroooother! Hahahahahahaha.... That little gem should will the idiot prize on today's OPP.


I would think the "idiot prize" should go to those who can't distinguish between law and poetry.

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Aug 15, 2019 15:48:50   #
dongreen76
 
PeterS wrote:


The statue of liberty was a gift from France.The inscription on it was already on it when it was graciously excepted by the United States.How could it be referring to people coming from Europe, when France, the owner of it- is in Europe.The inscription on it was not changed when given to the United States because it was revelant to our circumstances at the time; in that era we were a young evolving country and could probably use more patrons/citizens .Once again, just like its titular head,the Republican party is slow on the uptake and puts it considerable size foot in its mouth,hummm,`I wonder what size it consumes?

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Aug 15, 2019 16:49:33   #
Pennylynn Loc: Virginia
 
dongreen76 wrote:
The statue of liberty was a gift from France.The inscription on it was already on it when it was graciously excepted by the United States.How could it be referring to people coming from Europe, when France, the owner of it- is in Europe.The inscription on it was not changed when given to the United States because it was revelant to our circumstances at the time; in that era we were a young evolving country and could probably use more patrons/citizens .Once again, just like its titular head,the Republican party is slow on the uptake and puts it considerable size foot in its mouth,hummm,`I wonder what size it consumes?
The statue of liberty was a gift from France.The i... (show quote)



Thank you for your opinion, but you are incorrect. It would do you well if you consider the people and their position on immigration at the time, specifically the government. The same year the plaque was affixed to the lower level of Lady Liberty, the U.S. government rejected 5,812 of those same new arrivals for being poor. In his annual report to Congress in 1903, U.S. Immigration Commissioner William Williams warned that too many immigrants were “entering this country with inadequate sums of money,” leaving the system with thousands of charity cases and sinking the country’s standard of living.

The poem The New Colossus was cast in 1903 and mounted inside the pedestal of the statute which was given to us in 4 Jul 1884 and dedicated on October 28, 1886. In 1901, Lazarus's friend Georgina Schuyler began an effort to memorialize Lazarus and her poem, which succeeded in 1903 when a plaque bearing the text of the poem was put on the inner wall of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. Reference: Young, Bette Roth (1997), Emma Lazarus in Her World: Life and Letters, The Jewish Publication Society, p. 3, ISBN 0-8276-0618-4, …fell into obscurity. At the unveiling of the statue […] both Emma and her sonnet were absent […] Georgina Schuyler set in motion a successful attempt to memorialize her friend by placing the poem, inscribed on a bronze tablet, inside the pedestal….

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