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Aug 14, 2019 23:57:53   #
GmanTerry
 
factnotfiction wrote:
The 2016 election proved that anyone can get elected POTUS.

But now that trump is running again, several facts are facing him.

Now he has a track record of performance, and the only positive is the economy, but trump has 16 months to screw that up..

And no matter who his opponent is, it won't be Hillary, and no one else will have her baggage.

And trumps constant and idiotic attacks on everyone who doesn't bow down to him, are driving his anti-Hillary voters away, which means bad news for him.

So unless trump can somehow double his rabid base, he will have trouble, no matter what his propagandists say, do, or tweet



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/trump-base-2020/594325/
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This is true with any Presidential candidate. The base will always support the candidate. Democrats and Republicans don't elect Presidents, Independents, elect Presidents. Democrats and Republicans help. That is why the truly whacked far leftists will not be elected. Middle America wants what is best for their families which is what is best for the country and it isn't socialism and huge government programs which will prevent their children from ever being able to buy a house. The 50% who pay taxes want their children to have a future and trillions and trillions in free everything will destroy everyone's future.

Semper Fi

Semper Fi

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Aug 15, 2019 01:25:18   #
PeterS
 
son of witless wrote:
Well then you guys have the 2020 election in the bag. Congratulations.

If Trump keeps his Twitter fingers going you are damn right!

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Aug 15, 2019 02:03:35   #
PeterS
 
GmanTerry wrote:
This is true with any Presidential candidate. The base will always support the candidate. Democrats and Republicans don't elect Presidents, Independents, elect Presidents. Democrats and Republicans help. That is why the truly whacked far leftists will not be elected. Middle America wants what is best for their families which is what is best for the country and it isn't socialism and huge government programs which will prevent their children from ever being able to buy a house. The 50% who pay taxes want their children to have a future and trillions and trillions in free everything will destroy everyone's future.

Semper Fi

Semper Fi
This is true with any Presidential candidate. The ... (show quote)

Hillary was a centrist and a whacked-out republican beat her. We are at full employment right now and the economic gains are just starting to creep upwards. That would be fine if we could count on economic growth continuing but today we were greeted with an inverted yield curve and as a harbinger of bad news, those are generally followed by a recession. That was the problem in the 80's and the 90's then no sooner did we hit full employment and there was upwards pressure on all incomes then came to a recession and come tumbling down all income growth.

Trump is sitting on an economy whose best days are behind it and has bearly started to benefit the majority and you think someone from the far left can't win? Are you telling me the American Center would rather have a Fascist who cares only about policies that benefit HIS economic class? Do you think those in the center worship the wealthy as you conservatives do? If Trump is to be reelected you better hope that is the case...

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Aug 15, 2019 02:41:15   #
emarine
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
LOL! Trump won't try to raise taxes. LOL! And if congress tried right now, he would veto it.




Very true... that would piss Charles Koch off & trump can't afford that mistake ...

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Aug 15, 2019 06:36:50   #
jSmitty45
 
badbob85037 wrote:
No his base is all he needs so all the Americans that will vote for him this time that are saying the economy is the best, those who now have jobs and living the good life, those seeing the country proud again and out of the 8 years of obama's communist and treasonous shit I hope they bring back public execution and short ropes Who would ever think one man Trump could dig us out of an 8 years of the obamanation. It will be a land slide. I have a hard time believing some idiots still trust the lying media and their so called polls. Land slide victory, Democrats going to prison and conspiracy is a felony with a minimum of 10 years . It's going to be a good time to be alive! What's hard to believe is there are some to damn stupid to see it.
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Amen!

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Aug 15, 2019 06:39:51   #
jSmitty45
 
F.D.R. wrote:
Trump is far from perfect, but he's far better than anyone the Dem's are putting up. The Dem's are going to have to empty the cemeteries to win in 2020.


Yep, got that right!

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Aug 15, 2019 10:24:49   #
JediKnight
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Clinton was on the Lolita express 27 times (admits to 4). Trump was never on the manifest so you STFU until you can come up with facts rather than your bullshit pie-in-the-sky moronic opinion.


So, just like Trump, you expect us to believe you just cause you said so? Not! Where is your factual reference? I hope you understand that because its an island, you could take a flight to the nearest mainland and then take a ferry or private boat so there would be no manifest? Also, Epstein had several mansions throughout the country. It has been reported that Trump raped the 12 year old at one of Epstein's New York properties. And even if Clinton did go to the island, what does that have to do with Trump going there? Do you jump off bridges because you saw someone else do it? sad.

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Aug 15, 2019 10:25:50   #
JediKnight
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Yep, got that right!


At least you can count on the dems NOT consorting with Russia to steal the election. Republicans have no morals, no values, no scruples, and no legislation. sad.

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Aug 15, 2019 10:31:54   #
jSmitty45
 
JediKnight wrote:
At least you can count on the dems NOT consorting with Russia to steal the election. Republicans have no morals, no values, no scruples, and no legislation. sad.


No, that is the Dem’s. They took back the house, and have done nothing since, except asking for a raise!

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Aug 15, 2019 10:45:31   #
JediKnight
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
No, that is the Dem’s. They took back the house, and have done nothing since, except asking for a raise!


You must be a comedian! The dems have sent over 100 bills to the Senate...which has sat on each one -including those dealing with election security, immigration, and energy. Republicans continue to prove they have no plan and no intention of creating a plan. They have had over 2 years since Obama left office and still no healthcare plan -Trump said he had a "great new healthcare plan ready to go on Day One" -where is it? Trump lied that he had a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days - where is it? Trump lied and said Mexico will pay for the wall - ain't seen not one peso delivered yet. Trump gave the elite 1% and big corporations a huge tax break that skyrocketed the national debt -and has done absolutely zero for the poor and majority of the middle class. Trump continues to golf and benefit from using his own properties at taxpayer expense. Trump has told you over 11,000 lies -and you have the audacity to blame the democrats? insane.

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Aug 15, 2019 11:43:28   #
jSmitty45
 
The dem’s have done nothing, they want open borders, give all the illegals freebies, stop anything Trump tries to do to help us. Obamacare was the worse healthcare ever voted on, and the bill wasn’t even read before your great Speaker said ”we have to pass the bill to see what is in it”, bunch of do nothing is all they are about. Jobs have grown, more money in our paychecks, wake up, you must be dreaming if you think the dem’s are great. Bunch of socialists running for president, God help us if any of them win, America will go down the toilet, along with Venezuela!

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Aug 15, 2019 12:01:27   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
If Trump keeps his Twitter fingers going you are damn right!


Trump is a known quantity. He is the same man who got elected in 2016, Twitter fingers and all. I do not see anyone who voted for Trump in 2016, abandoning him in 2020. Every time one of the Marxist Klowns running for your party's nomination opens their mouth, it is just as offensive to a Trump voter, as Trump's Tweets are to you.

So what is your side's path to power ? You have to hope for a complete economic collapse, like 2007-09. It is what elected the Village Idiot Obama. It was bad enough that 4 years later the Village Idiot could still blame Bush and get reelected. However after 8 years and the economy still sucking, it could not get Hitlery elected.

I guess with a good economy you guys could hope against hope to gin up enough hatred against President Trump, if you had a good centrist candidate. However, the only guy/girl who can pretend to be centrist and sane is Old Joe Biden. Everyone loves Olde Joe, but he physically and mentally does not seem up to the strain.

And that my good friend, leaves only the far left loons who are competing with one another to see who can be the biggest Santa Claus. At present Sen. Warren seems to be the strongest. No one has gone after the Fake Native American Albino Princess yet. You can bet that Trump will.

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Aug 15, 2019 12:47:40   #
jSmitty45
 
son of witless wrote:
Trump is a known quantity. He is the same man who got elected in 2016, Twitter fingers and all. I do not see anyone who voted for Trump in 2016, abandoning him in 2020. Every time one of the Marxist Klowns running for your party's nomination opens their mouth, it is just as offensive to a Trump voter, as Trump's Tweets are to you.

So what is your side's path to power ? You have to hope for a complete economic collapse, like 2007-09. It is what elected the Village Idiot Obama. It was bad enough that 4 years later the Village Idiot could still blame Bush and get reelected. However after 8 years and the economy still sucking, it could not get Hitlery elected.

I guess with a good economy you guys could hope against hope to gin up enough hatred against President Trump, if you had a good centrist candidate. However, the only guy/girl who can pretend to be centrist and sane is Old Joe Biden. Everyone loves Olde Joe, but he physically and mentally does not seem up to the strain.

And that my good friend, leaves only the far left loons who are competing with one another to see who can be the biggest Santa Claus. At present Sen. Warren seems to be the strongest. No one has gone after the Fake Native American Albino Princess yet. You can bet that Trump will.
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That, he will do!

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Aug 15, 2019 13:20:57   #
JediKnight
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
The dem’s have done nothing, they want open borders, give all the illegals freebies, stop anything Trump tries to do to help us. Obamacare was the worse healthcare ever voted on, and the bill wasn’t even read before your great Speaker said ”we have to pass the bill to see what is in it”, bunch of do nothing is all they are about. Jobs have grown, more money in our paychecks, wake up, you must be dreaming if you think the dem’s are great. Bunch of socialists running for president, God help us if any of them win, America will go down the toilet, along with Venezuela!
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Please provide us one reference where dems are saying "they want open borders" - just one. Have you not noticed that it is the (fake) president who is hellbent on rescinding "anything Obama" just out of spite and hate? The ACA allowed nearly 40 million who had never had healthcare to obtain it. The plan was working just fine - until the jealous and inept republicans decided to kill it because Obama's team came up with it -yet, even after 2 years of control - the republicans have no healthcare plan at all. Trump lied (as usual) when he claimed "I have a great new healthcare plan ready to go on Day One" - and again when he said "I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days" - and of course when he said "Mexico will pay for the wall" - need I mention "I don't know Stormy or any of those women" or "Cohen is a great guy to Cohen is a rat" -and of course there are many, many other similar lies from your illustrious leader.

Even riding the economy that Obama saved and revived, Trump's job numbers at this point are still lower than Obama's were at this same time. The Great American Tax Hoax has done great for the top 1% and even a few in the middle class (those who take in more than $200k) have seen some benefit - the rest of the country (the majority) has seen zilch. You claim the dems are "a bunch of socialists" - do you use Medicare or Social Security? If so, you are benefitting from a "socialist program." You should really consider these truths and not sell your soul to an unqualified, zero character, corrupt, inept, imbecile who only cares about how much money he can steal and how many women he can assault. pathetic.

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Aug 15, 2019 13:41:47   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
Please provide us one reference where dems are saying "they want open borders" - just one. Have you not noticed that it is the (fake) president who is hellbent on rescinding "anything Obama" just out of spite and hate? The ACA allowed nearly 40 million who had never had healthcare to obtain it. The plan was working just fine - until the jealous and inept republicans decided to kill it because Obama's team came up with it -yet, even after 2 years of control - the republicans have no healthcare plan at all. Trump lied (as usual) when he claimed "I have a great new healthcare plan ready to go on Day One" - and again when he said "I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days" - and of course when he said "Mexico will pay for the wall" - need I mention "I don't know Stormy or any of those women" or "Cohen is a great guy to Cohen is a rat" -and of course there are many, many other similar lies from your illustrious leader.

Even riding the economy that Obama saved and revived, Trump's job numbers at this point are still lower than Obama's were at this same time. The Great American Tax Hoax has done great for the top 1% and even a few in the middle class (those who take in more than $200k) have seen some benefit - the rest of the country (the majority) has seen zilch. You claim the dems are "a bunch of socialists" - do you use Medicare or Social Security? If so, you are benefitting from a "socialist program." You should really consider these truths and not sell your soul to an unqualified, zero character, corrupt, inept, imbecile who only cares about how much money he can steal and how many women he can assault. pathetic.
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One question, why were those 40 million who couldn't afford healthcare mostly from D controlled states and cities? Good luck with that one. It's what socialist do, screw up everything they touch.

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