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Aug 14, 2019 12:32:23   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
Peewee is yet another troll or just a hard core believer in "alternate reality." I live in the heartland and no, Trump does not have a lock on anything here except maybe stupidity. I know many people of the races you mentioned, and outside of lowly educated whites, none of the groups you mention support Trump with any significance. Republicans have still not offered anything by way of meaningful legislation, and still have no healthcare plan....ISIS is still blowing up stuff....and Mexico ain't paying for the wall!
Peewee is yet another troll or just a hard core be... (show quote)


What a racist and even against your own race. Liberals whites highly educated, Conservative whites lowly educated. If you're highly educated then I'm Solomon. Mostly I just detect a snob.

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Aug 14, 2019 12:35:40   #
PeterS
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Not even the economy is in his favor. They make a big production about the good news and ignore the bad news. The coal industry is losing jobs not making new ones. Lowes, Sears, Kmart and others are closing stores at an increasing rate. Subtracting jobs lost and part time jobs from the labor statistics, gives us a negative job flow. The only people making money off the volatile stock market, are brokers and bankers, since every gain is followed with a loss.

This is the Democrats election to lose...................and they're doing a bang up job of doing just that.
Not even the economy is in his favor. They make a ... (show quote)

The yield curve for bonds (a major indicator of inflation) reversed today sending the market down 700 points. Trump is holding a house of cards and it is falling apart...

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Aug 14, 2019 12:39:16   #
PeterS
 
gaconservative74 wrote:
Ok, so here’s the problem with your argument:

The only candidate on the dem side that is even remotely close to a centrist(someone a republican or most moderates, independents would vote for) is sleepy, creepy, gaffey Joe: an old white guy!!!!!!!!!!!! I just don’t see how the dem party with their complete disgust of white males could ever nominate him. They might however, we will see. He’s too stupid to get elected though. Just saying.

So, that leaves the other 22 and they are ALL ELWNJ’s that just want to push us into socialism.......... not for our good, mind you, but to have complete dependence of the populous on old big brother!!!! Not one of them will get a single republican vote and most likely will not get much of anything right of left center. I don’t think any of them can carry the whole dem party.

Y’all wanna beat trump you better figure out how to move away from the extreme left.
Ok, so here’s the problem with your argument: br ... (show quote)

You've embraced the extreme right which is Fascist. At least the extreme left offers something more than hate for anyone that isn't from Europe...

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Aug 14, 2019 12:55:17   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
The yield curve for bonds (a major indicator of inflation) reversed today sending the market down 700 points. Trump is holding a house of cards and it is falling apart...


Oh no.

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Aug 14, 2019 13:07:31   #
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Aug 14, 2019 13:20:05   #
son of witless
 


Well then you guys have the 2020 election in the bag. Congratulations.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:03:41   #
fullspinzoo
 
woodguru wrote:
It's easy to remember how Trump squeaked out a win on three key states with less than 80,000 votes, certainly not confidence inspiring for 2020, where do you think more votes come from when his favorability is at such lows?

Perhaps there is a reason red states don't want election security, better systems, or an ability to recount? This looks like salvation in the form of cheating, winning by any means...

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/457168-report-says-eight-states-to-use-paperless-voting-in-2020-despite?userid=178778
It's easy to remember how Trump squeaked out a win... (show quote)


Promises made, promises kept. You guys ought to try it someday.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:14:20   #
JediKnight
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
We've heard all of this bullshit before. You haven't offered anything substantial except for a pile of bogus bribes that will never come about. Open borders, free everything (bribes) and healthcare for those who break the law. Wow, what a plan. Democrats within the party are saying your field is extremely weak and you better bring in someone new to "save the day". You should just resolve the fact that Trump will be setting new records in unemployment, consumer confidence, jobs, jobs, jobs and the other things that your own Barack Obama said were impossible, ie "bringing manufacturing jobs back" for one. Just resolve yourself to four more years. as much as you can't handle the truth. A guy with this magnitude of accomplishments is not going to get beat. And it's as simple as that. Most guys like you can't spell landslide.
We've heard all of this bullshit before. You have... (show quote)


You must have got into the new batch of 'alternative fool's juice' Trump is brewing. When it comes out that Trump visited Epstein's 'pedophile island' so much he has frequent flyer miles, what ever will you say then? The only record Trump has set to date is the telling of over 11,000 lies since stealing the election. We are teetering on a recession at this very moment, and if Trump doesn't learn to leave China alone, we will have a full-blown recession to thank him for.

Coal mining is not coming back even in your wet dreams, and Trump lied as usual about the manufacturing jobs. What a lot of you folk don't seem to understand is that because of our unions and wage structure here, other countries can under bid us in factory jobs -which is why companies continue to leave here....remember Carrier -who Trump said was "staying and adding thousands and thousands of new jobs?" - what happened? I'll tell you: while you were busy sipping the kool-aide and sucking up Trump's lies, Carrier joined the crowd of other companies who prefer to keep their earnings and that huge tax break from Trump and take their business overseas for cheap labor. idiots.

IF Trump manages to steal another election, the worse is four years of his bs. I don't expect him to last that long because either Epstein's mess will get him or the few remaining sane republicans will get tired of his bs and give him the boot. No worries though mate, Trump is just panty-waste anyway. period.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:30:24   #
factnotfiction
 
The gerrymandering affect the appointment and subsequent voting for the presidential electors.

You and the rest of trump supporters do not have a direct vote for him, no matter what you think, or what lies the rightwingnut propaganda machine spins out.

And the republicans were the majority in the state legislature

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Aug 14, 2019 15:58:32   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
You must have got into the new batch of 'alternative fool's juice' Trump is brewing. When it comes out that Trump visited Epstein's 'pedophile island' so much he has frequent flyer miles, what ever will you say then? The only record Trump has set to date is the telling of over 11,000 lies since stealing the election. We are teetering on a recession at this very moment, and if Trump doesn't learn to leave China alone, we will have a full-blown recession to thank him for.

Coal mining is not coming back even in your wet dreams, and Trump lied as usual about the manufacturing jobs. What a lot of you folk don't seem to understand is that because of our unions and wage structure here, other countries can under bid us in factory jobs -which is why companies continue to leave here....remember Carrier -who Trump said was "staying and adding thousands and thousands of new jobs?" - what happened? I'll tell you: while you were busy sipping the kool-aide and sucking up Trump's lies, Carrier joined the crowd of other companies who prefer to keep their earnings and that huge tax break from Trump and take their business overseas for cheap labor. idiots.

IF Trump manages to steal another election, the worse is four years of his bs. I don't expect him to last that long because either Epstein's mess will get him or the few remaining sane republicans will get tired of his bs and give him the boot. No worries though mate, Trump is just panty-waste anyway. period.
You must have got into the new batch of 'alternati... (show quote)


Flight logs don't show Trump going to Epstein's island but a lot of Dems did. Clinton, Richardson, Clooney, Dershowitz, etc...

How did Trump steal the election? By working harder, traveling to more states and talking with the deplorable forgotten people and asking what have you got to lose.

Most countries want quality steel, not inferior steel. Carrier can move anywhere they want to and Trump can take those profits on any product shipped back into the USA with tariffs. We are the worlds largest consumers, not Mexico. They have been warned.

Trump will win reelection because the left is fighting him so hard because they are afraid. Because they are criminals and know they are going to be exposed and may go to prison or hang for treason. Maybe if they had worked with him he would have just asked them to resign and everyone could all sing 'Oh Happy Days' together. They refused so they are going down and good riddance to them. Your party has about 45 days left before you see perp walks begin. When you see Comey go down, it's the beginning of the end. Have a nice day.

There is no such thing as an informal impeachment. There is only one type. You must file it and vote on it. I don't even think most Dems will vote for it in the House.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:03:25   #
JediKnight
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Promises made, promises kept. You guys ought to try it someday.


Yeah right....like "I have a great new healthcare plan ready to go on day one....I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days....I will bring coal and manufacturing jobs back...and Mexico will pay for the wall!' The new republican motto for 2020 should be: Promises Made -Cause You Know We'll Break 'Em! You guys would really be hilariously funny if you weren't so pathetic. period.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:05:40   #
JediKnight
 
Peewee wrote:
Flight logs don't show Trump going to Epstein's island but a lot of Dems did. Clinton, Richardson, Clooney, Dershowitz, etc...

How did Trump steal the election? By working harder, traveling to more states and talking with the deplorable forgotten people and asking what have you got to lose.

Most countries want quality steel, not inferior steel. Carrier can move anywhere they want to and Trump can take those profits on any product shipped back into the USA with tariffs. We are the worlds largest consumers, not Mexico. They have been warned.

Trump will win reelection because the left is fighting him so hard because they are afraid. Because they are criminals and know they are going to be exposed and may go to prison or hang for treason. Maybe if they had worked with him he would have just asked them to resign and everyone could all sing 'Oh Happy Days' together. They refused so they are going down and good riddance to them. Your party has about 45 days left before you see perp walks begin. When you see Comey go down, it's the beginning of the end. Have a nice day.

There is no such thing as an informal impeachment. There is only one type. You must file it and vote on it. I don't even think most Dems will vote for it in the House.
Flight logs don't show Trump going to Epstein's is... (show quote)


You are overlooking the private flight logs from the personal jets. Besides, you can jet to the mainland and still catch a ferry to the island -so flight logs are not the main source of who went to the island. The rest of your post is just gibberish and not worthy of an intelligent response. nice try though.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:07:09   #
JediKnight
 
factnotfiction wrote:
The gerrymandering affect the appointment and subsequent voting for the presidential electors.

You and the rest of trump supporters do not have a direct vote for him, no matter what you think, or what lies the rightwingnut propaganda machine spins out.

And the republicans were the majority in the state legislature


I am as far from being a Trump supporter as a republican is from being intelligent. Take a minute to let that sink in.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:16:06   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
factnotfiction wrote:
The 2016 election proved that anyone can get elected POTUS.

But now that trump is running again, several facts are facing him.

Now he has a track record of performance, and the only positive is the economy, but trump has 16 months to screw that up..

And no matter who his opponent is, it won't be Hillary, and no one else will have her baggage.

And trumps constant and idiotic attacks on everyone who doesn't bow down to him, are driving his anti-Hillary voters away, which means bad news for him.

So unless trump can somehow double his rabid base, he will have trouble, no matter what his propagandists say, do, or tweet



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/trump-base-2020/594325/
The 2016 election proved that anyone can get elect... (show quote)


The dems are helping him there, not meaning to. If he pulled the troops out of the middle east, he'd get a lot more voters. Another way seems to be falling in his lap-China.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:16:31   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
Yeah right....like "I have a great new healthcare plan ready to go on day one....I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days....I will bring coal and manufacturing jobs back...and Mexico will pay for the wall!' The new republican motto for 2020 should be: Promises Made -Cause You Know We'll Break 'Em! You guys would really be hilariously funny if you weren't so pathetic. period.


You should be on late-night talk shows they're no longer funny either. Just a sad reflection of their former glory, like CNN, MSM, NFL, Olympics, Oscars, and everything else D's touch or try to run. Chicago, Baltimore, East St. Louis, San Francisco, NYC. You guys just don't have that golden Midas touch, as Trump does. Without any help from the left. Coal is back and manufacturing jobs are returning. I'll cede Mexico isn't paying for the wall yet. Our health care system was the best in the world before Obama screwed it up on purpose and now it's back to where it was before Obama and I'm happy with that because it now includes pre-existing conditions.

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