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Aug 14, 2019 19:36:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Tug484 wrote:
I just know the left believes in things I don't believe in and they force those things on us.



trust me, I have no desire to force you into doing any thing.. live your life with no interference and be happy.

Yet on the other hand, I also want to live as i wish and not be hobbled by restrictions on my rights or opportunity..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:42:41   #
Tug484
 
permafrost wrote:
trust me, I have no desire to force you into doing any thing.. live your life with no interference and be happy.

Yet on the other hand, I also want to live as i wish and not be hobbled by restrictions on my rights or opportunity..


We all really want the same thing.

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Aug 14, 2019 20:54:20   #
okie don
 
Of the three basic forms of governance: Monarchy, Aristocracy & Democracy, Democracy is the worst as it leads to Tyranny per Plato in his book 'Republic'

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Aug 14, 2019 21:02:26   #
Carlos
 
The ones in congress want open borders, that's safety?? 🤔🤔

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Aug 14, 2019 21:26:01   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
Of the three basic forms of governance: Monarchy, Aristocracy & Democracy, Democracy is the worst as it leads to Tyranny per Plato in his book 'Republic'


We all want freedom, but some people aren't understanding what we lose with what Dems force on us.
They cater to a base of 3 percent and slightly higher on other ideas.
I don't like it forced on me.
I like my free will.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:30:41   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
Of the three basic forms of governance: Monarchy, Aristocracy & Democracy, Democracy is the worst as it leads to Tyranny per Plato in his book 'Republic'


People don't understand how much is forced on us against our will and it erodes our be freedom.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:32:26   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
Of the three basic forms of governance: Monarchy, Aristocracy & Democracy, Democracy is the worst as it leads to Tyranny per Plato in his book 'Republic'


Erosion of our freedom and people don't get it.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:35:28   #
okie don
 
Tug484 wrote:
People don't understand how much is forced on us against our will and it erodes our be freedom.


Roger that. NDAA " Patriot Act'' Bush Jr crammed down our throats is a prime example. No trial by jury of our peers and incarcerated indefinately . Guilty with no way to prove your innocense. Put in after 9/11.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:44:08   #
Carlos
 
That's why you have to fight fire with fire. There should be reply as big or bigger than what they do.We should be as
Forceful as they are, gather around a senators house and yell at him, then do the same only twice as hard.
They chase people out of restaurants then don't let theirs in. Reply with the same tactic only double the strength. If they turn to guns which they hate, well, no, that would never happen.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:50:57   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
Roger that. NDAA " Patriot Act'' Bush Jr crammed down our throats is a prime example. No trial by jury of our peers and incarcerated indefinately . Guilty with no way to prove your innocense. Put in after 9/11.


Yes and I have my opinion of what happened because they had to have an excuse for NDAA.

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Aug 15, 2019 11:25:13   #
okie don
 
NDAA was already written or constructed before 9/11.
Had to be as it was enacted in appx 30 days following WTC orchestrated " attacks".

Nothing could be done this quickly unless already on the drawing board.
if you follow my drift

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Aug 15, 2019 16:13:57   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
NDAA was already written or constructed before 9/11.
Had to be as it was enacted in appx 30 days following WTC orchestrated " attacks".

Nothing could be done this quickly unless already on the drawing board.
if you follow my drift


Yes I do and it was too quick to be something they just thought of

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Aug 15, 2019 16:38:03   #
okie don
 
Tug484 wrote:
Yes I do and it was too quick to be something they just thought of


Roger- you got it bro.

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Aug 15, 2019 16:39:04   #
Tug484
 
okie don wrote:
Roger- you got it bro.


LOL, I'm more like a sis.

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Aug 15, 2019 18:03:33   #
okie don
 
Tug484 wrote:
LOL, I'm more like a sis.


10-4 🤗

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