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Aug 16, 2019 15:03:31   #
byronglimish Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You got some nerve there, bub. That is a truly nasty insult to OPP members who have been here for years.


Well daddyo, We still have freedom of speech, I noticed that you have never came to my defense when moldy has called me a troll.

You feeling a little "mother superior" today?

Edit....it doesn't make a bit of difference how long someone has been on here to me.

Is OPP your greatest accomplishment in life?

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Aug 16, 2019 15:24:03   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
Well daddyo, We still have freedom of speech, I noticed that you have never came to my defense when moldy has called me a troll.

You feeling a little "mother superior" today?

Edit....it doesn't make a bit of difference how long someone has been on here to me.

Is OPP your greatest accomplishment in life?


Maybe because I have never called you a troll. You are a despicable conspiracy nut, though.

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Aug 16, 2019 15:59:38   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ignorance of the democrat party's radical transformation that began the day Bubba left office is a real comfort zone, isn't it?

The 2008 democrat primaries were the nastiest in American history. A brand new political ideology gutted Clinton politics. Hillary got a consolation prize, but she screwed the pooch big time with that one. And the stupid broad got another body slam in 2016.

It is hilarious that so many still believe the Clintons remain the king and queen of democrat power and that their so-called cabal remains a force of nature.
Ignorance of the democrat party's radical transfor... (show quote)


Ask Epstein.

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Aug 16, 2019 16:00:25   #
Mikeyavelli
 
byronglimish wrote:
Blade, many of us are not BULLHARRISED that the Clinton's are totally impotent and of no matter in the current world theater.

Why do you feel that you have to rush to their defense?

There is a plethora of unusual deaths on the Clinton's trailblazing.


Ask Seth Rich.

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Aug 16, 2019 16:14:19   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
byronglimish wrote:
Blade, many of us are not BULLHARRISED that the Clinton's are totally impotent and of no matter in the current world theater.

Why do you feel that you have to rush to their defense?

There is a plethora of unusual deaths on the Clinton's trailblazing.
I am not defending the Clintons, I am defending reality.

When Hillary lost her second shot at POTUS, the Clinton political clout lost with her. A radical change occurred in democrat party politics, a change that purged the party of the Clinton's left of center politics.

Almost the day she lost the election, donations to the Clinton Foundation began to dry up, and in short order, the staff was fired and the offices closed. Former allies, associates and donors have abandoned them.

And what are the Clintons doing now? Hillary is pining over her loss and trying to justify why. She has teamed up with daughter Chelsea to write another book. Bill is looking the Grim Reaper in the face and is crying about how things could have been. Neither of them have endorsed a single 2020 democrat candidate, neither of them are stumping for any of them.

Over the course of the last 11 years, the Clinton cabal has disintegrated.

Much can be said about monumental flaws in the conspiracies surrounding the trail of bodies supposedly dumped along their way to the top. Conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones and dozens of conspiracy websites like Reddit, Motherjones, Globalresearch and Whatreallyhappened jumped on this.

Multiple versions of this “body count” list have been circulating online for two decades now. According to those lists, close to fifty colleagues, advisors, and citizens who were about to testify against the Clintons died in suspect circumstances, with the unstated implication being that Bill Clinton or his henchmen were behind each untimely demise. New victim names are routinely added and old ones taken off, forming an endless variety of permutations. At this point, there is no one “official” list.

But where did all this craziness start? In a 1994 letter to congressional leaders, former Rep. William Dannemeyer listed 24 people with some connection to Clinton who had died “under other than natural circumstances” and called for hearings on the matter.

Dannemeyer’s list of “suspicious deaths” was largely taken from one compiled by Linda Thompson, an Indianapolis lawyer who in 1993 quit her year-old general practice to run her American Justice Federation, a for-profit group that promotes pro-gun causes and various conspiracy theories through a shortwave radio program, a computer bulletin board, and sales of its newsletter and videos.

Her list, called “The Clinton Body Count: Coincidence or the Kiss of Death?” then contained the names of 34 people she believed had died suspiciously and who had ties to the Clinton family. Thompson admitted she had “no direct evidence” of Clinton’s killing anyone. Indeed, she said the deaths were probably caused by “people trying to control the President” but refused to say who they were. Thompson said her allegations of murder “seem groundless only because the mainstream media haven’t done enough digging.”

Ah, but they had. If not before she put her list together, at least afterwards. Anyone who continues to state the mainstream media has given these claims short shrift is being disingenuous.

Since 1994, various respected news outlets have been confronted with versions of the “Clinton Body Count” list, run their own investigations of a few of the claims, and found nothing to substantiate what they looked into. Those investigations would culminate in yet another story about an oddball conspiracy rumor.

But conspiracy theories don’t die that easily. These “body count” lists and the many specious claims contained therein continue to circulate in cyberspace and beyond: yesterday’s newspaper articles are forgotten with the next day’s delivery, but e-mail lives forever.

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The bottom line on this piece of e-lore? It’s a badly worked laundry list dressed up to appear significant. The promised damning connections to the Chief Executive are missing, with innuendo misinformation offered up in their place. Nothing ties Clinton to any of these deaths, something this list (and others of its ilk) conveniently glosses over. What evidence is offered that would compel a rational person to believe there was Clinton involvement in any of these deaths?

Clinton was acquainted with some people who died — that’s about all one can make of this list. Indeed, that’s far more than can be made of a number of the entries, specifically, that of Ives and Henry and all those supposedly tied to theirs.

Though it’s clear from digging through numerous newspaper articles there was a thriving and dangerous drug culture in Little Rock, how or why this should be connected to Bill Clinton is left unanswered. Regrettably, Little Rock is akin to numerous other large cities: it has its share of drug dealers, murders, and violence. It also has one very famous citizen. And that’s about as much of a connection as anyone can make.

Whereas a typical private citizen has a much smaller circle of acquaintance, those in public office come into contact with a great many people over the course of their careers. It is therefore not unusual to find at least a few accidental deaths, homicides, and suicides among any politician’s list of contacts. (For example, a “body count” list exists for George Bush.)

A number of suicides are enumerated in this list. Suicide is far from an unusual mode of demise. It claims 32,000 lives in the U.S. every year, and it’s the 9th leading cause of death. It is indeed a rare person who does not know someone who died by his own hand.

Deaths by airplane crash account for a number of entries on the list. Again, this is not all that surprising. Every year many small planes crash in the United States, and some of those crashes result in fatalities. As mentioned above, the National Transportation Safety Board investigates every one of them, to determine both the cause of the accident as well as to gather data that will help prevent future tragedies. The agency does a thorough job of looking into the circumstances surrounding each downed plane. To describe any of the plane crash deaths on this list as “suspicious” is to suggest the NTSB was part of a coverup.

There have been a couple of unsolved murders (Jerry Parks, Kevin Ives, and Don Henry), but there have also been deaths by natural causes that have been tossed into the mix willy-nilly simply to boost the body count. (As we said earlier, how can anyone claim a death by pneumonia was a suicide?) All the best lies make sure to mix a bit of truth in with them, and the few genuinely unsolved murders work to cloak the many less credible claims in an aura of plausibility. Don’t be overly bemused by them — study each entry on its own merits.

One final question to ask yourself before falling for any Clinton Body Count list: If the Chief Executive was having people bumped off left, right, and center, why aren’t Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp on this list? At the time of Mary Mahoney’s death — a death this list hints was ordered by Clinton — neither Tripp nor Lewinsky were the high-profile household names they now are; they were complete unknowns. It would be another six months before information about them would explode into the news. If the President were in the habit of having those dangerous to his presidency put in the ground, why didn’t he order these deaths?


That said, Hillary should be held accountable for much more egregious crimes than those put out in unproven conspiracy theories about Arkancide and a Murder, Inc cabal.

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Aug 16, 2019 16:21:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
byronglimish wrote:
Well daddyo, We still have freedom of speech, I noticed that you have never came to my defense when moldy has called me a troll.

You feeling a little "mother superior" today?

Edit....it doesn't make a bit of difference how long someone has been on here to me.

Is OPP your greatest accomplishment in life?
moldy called you a troll? God forbid.

No, OPP is far from my greatest accomplishment in life. OPP is not even an accomplishment, it's just a message board, and the bulk of my posts here are replies and comments, I rarely start any threads.

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Aug 16, 2019 16:27:30   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
moldy called you a troll? God forbid.

No, OPP is far from my greatest accomplishment in life. OPP is not even an accomplishment, it's just a message board, and the bulk of my posts here are replies and comments, I rarely start any threads.


I have more confidence in you now that you admit that OPP isn't one of your best accomplishments.
We agree. 👨‍🦲

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Aug 16, 2019 16:43:25   #
son of witless
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The Russians had nothing to do with electing Trump. I did, along with 65 million other Patriots.
Russia was originally Seth Rich, and then became the official excuse for why America hates Hillary and voted Trump in.



As long as Liberals continue to believe the Russians did it, we have nothing to worry about. So please, encourage them.

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Aug 16, 2019 17:17:00   #
Mikeyavelli
 
son of witless wrote:
As long as Liberals continue to believe the Russians did it, we have nothing to worry about. So please, encourage them.


If the kommiecrats were smart, they'd shut up and hire these genius Russians to beat Trump.
Don't complain, hire the Russians.

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Aug 16, 2019 18:33:48   #
byronglimish Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Maybe because I have never called you a troll. You are a despicable conspiracy nut, though.


Now you are a lying troll, you most certainly did!

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Aug 16, 2019 18:39:24   #
Mikeyavelli
 
byronglimish wrote:
Now you are a lying troll, you most certainly did!


You are a deplorable, but certainly not despicable.

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Aug 16, 2019 18:40:56   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
Now you are a lying troll, you most certainly did!


You get into fights with so many people, you have no idea who calls you what. But whatever they call you I’m sure you deserve it and more

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Aug 16, 2019 18:50:24   #
byronglimish Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You are a deplorable, but certainly not despicable.


Thank you, I am most deplorable!

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Aug 16, 2019 18:53:07   #
byronglimish Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You get into fights with so many people, you have no idea who calls you what. But whatever they call you I’m sure you deserve it and more


10-4 Roger, over and out of your mind.

You are exactly what your accusation to me is.

You can't remember calling me a troll son.

Let's just agree that you have come up a loser, once again..K?

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Aug 16, 2019 18:56:09   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You get into fights with so many people, you have no idea who calls you what. But whatever they call you I’m sure you deserve it and more


Has the thought EVER crossed your mind, that if you weren't such an assclown, and tried to post something Without the vitriol! and Hate!? The old adage holds true. ya get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar... Just a thought.. Hey.. ya know.. if you posted like a human, you may get replies that would surprise you, at the moment.. you are WAY too toxic for words.. It can be done, I've seen it in here...

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