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Aug 12, 2019 19:48:56   #
alabuck
 
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epstein Tweet, that we actually have a situation of a current President accusing a former - but alive - President of committing a serious crime like murder! But, in the age of Trump, it's just more noise, a crazy Tweet. Under any other previous President, this would have pretty much stopped the presses for days and we would’ve heard howls from members of both political parties. But, this is today and the Congressional GOPTPers don’t dare criticize Trump for fear of gaining his wrath and the wrath of his many minions.

Additionally, does anyone else think Trump was a bit quick to start stirring the pot and pointing the fingers away from himself?? What we know about the Clinton-Epstein association so far has mostly involved Epstein as a donor to Clinton and the fabled "26 flights" were not actually 26, but still were flights accompanied by others and from all, current and credible evidence, seem to have been trips abroad for Clinton Foundation work.

Trump, on the other hand, has a well known and long “social and party life” association with Epstein. There’s one documented occasion of Trump having thrown a party at Mar a Lago with just him - Epstein - and 28 calendar models. It seems Trump may have been a lot closer to "that part” of Epstein's life than Clinton was, but, it's still inconclusive if Trump was involved in the underage/illegal business with him.

And, as far as the Clinton's engineering “a hit,” Epstein was housed in a facility under the jurisdiction of Trump's Federal government-paid defense attorney, A.G. William Barr. According to Barr, himself, it's starting to sound like certain protocols weren't being followed regarding Epstein's watch. Which over-worked and under-paid guard(s) will be blamed for not following protocol and allowing Epstein to die before he maybe could implicate Trump in many of Epstein’s illegal sexual inner-actions with underage girls?

And, if proven and documented history is correct (as opposed to the “alternative-facts” used by most Trump apologists), this is the same William Barr, whose father originally employed Epstein as a “teacher” at an exclusive Manhattan school. Oddly, Epstein wasn’t even “credentialed” in the subjects he was hired to teach. Oh, and it was Trump's recently made “former” Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, who happened to be the US Justice Department’s prosecuting attorney who let Epstein off so lightly to begin with during his sex-trafficking cases in Florida.

So, to borrow from Trump's own play-book, “I'm not saying it, but many people are saying it,” or “...telling me,” President Trump has a far many more murky links to Epstein than anything regarding Bill Clinton has, thus far, come out. And, it's Trump with a political career to protect, now. Bill Clinton is on the retirement circuit and has been for a number of decades. Of course, Trump could always claim Hillary has simply moved her child sex ring away from the pizza parlor and into Epstein’s mansion on his private island.

My belief is that Trump’s tweet suggesting a Clinton involvement in Epstein’s sex-trafficking is just another of Trump’s more than 12 THOUSAND lies to be believed and spread by his millions of gullible, mindless minions. It’s just another move by Trump to move attention away from himself and toward someone else. No matter how ridiculous it is, he knows it’ll be believed by his base. In fact, the more ridiculous it is, the more believable it is by his followers.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:54:31   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
One of his stupider tweets. And that’s saying something. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find out Clinton was involved but to tweet it with just opinion, especially by a president is stupid.
alabuck wrote:
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epstein Tweet, that we actually have a situation of a current President accusing a former - but alive - President of committing a serious crime like murder! But, in the age of Trump, it's just more noise, a crazy Tweet. Under any other previous President, this would have pretty much stopped the presses for days and we would’ve heard howls from members of both political parties. But, this is today and the Congressional GOPTPers don’t dare criticize Trump for fear of gaining his wrath and the wrath of his many minions.

Additionally, does anyone else think Trump was a bit quick to start stirring the pot and pointing the fingers away from himself?? What we know about the Clinton-Epstein association so far has mostly involved Epstein as a donor to Clinton and the fabled "26 flights" were not actually 26, but still were flights accompanied by others and from all, current and credible evidence, seem to have been trips abroad for Clinton Foundation work.

Trump, on the other hand, has a well known and long “social and party life” association with Epstein. There’s one documented occasion of Trump having thrown a party at Mar a Lago with just him - Epstein - and 28 calendar models. It seems Trump may have been a lot closer to "that part” of Epstein's life than Clinton was, but, it's still inconclusive if Trump was involved in the underage/illegal business with him.

And, as far as the Clinton's engineering “a hit,” Epstein was housed in a facility under the jurisdiction of Trump's Federal government-paid defense attorney, A.G. William Barr. According to Barr, himself, it's starting to sound like certain protocols weren't being followed regarding Epstein's watch. Which over-worked and under-paid guard(s) will be blamed for not following protocol and allowing Epstein to die before he maybe could implicate Trump in many of Epstein’s illegal sexual inner-actions with underage girls?

And, if proven and documented history is correct (as opposed to the “alternative-facts” used by most Trump apologists), this is the same William Barr, whose father originally employed Epstein as a “teacher” at an exclusive Manhattan school. Oddly, Epstein wasn’t even “credentialed” in the subjects he was hired to teach. Oh, and it was Trump's recently made “former” Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, who happened to be the US Justice Department’s prosecuting attorney who let Epstein off so lightly to begin with during his sex-trafficking cases in Florida.

So, to borrow from Trump's own play-book, “I'm not saying it, but many people are saying it,” or “...telling me,” President Trump has a far many more murky links to Epstein than anything regarding Bill Clinton has, thus far, come out. And, it's Trump with a political career to protect, now. Bill Clinton is on the retirement circuit and has been for a number of decades. Of course, Trump could always claim Hillary has simply moved her child sex ring away from the pizza parlor and into Epstein’s mansion on his private island.

My belief is that Trump’s tweet suggesting a Clinton involvement in Epstein’s sex-trafficking is just another of Trump’s more than 12 THOUSAND lies to be believed and spread by his millions of gullible, mindless minions. It’s just another move by Trump to move attention away from himself and toward someone else. No matter how ridiculous it is, he knows it’ll be believed by his base. In fact, the more ridiculous it is, the more believable it is by his followers.
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epst... (show quote)

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Aug 12, 2019 19:59:40   #
Crayons (a regular here)
 
He wanted to clean up the Federal Prison system starting in 2016, but unfortunately the Union representing the
the Prison where Epstein was killed is all run top down by Hillbilly Clintock donors and supporters...I don't
find this at all surprising

This link was just scrubbed off the internet
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nations-largest-federal-employee-union-endorses-hillary-clinton-300190930.html

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/officers-watching-jeffrey-epstein-were-on-overtime-due-to-staffing-shortage-union-president-says-2083738

Serene Gregg, president of the American Federation of Government Employees Local 3148, said the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan is functioning with less than 70 percent of the needed correctional officers, forcing many to work mandatory overtime and 60- or 70-hour workweeks

A spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons did not respond to a request for comment on Gregg's assertions.


Awww~~~Guess they don't need the money anymore

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Aug 12, 2019 20:01:13   #
peg w (a regular here)
 
What about Trumps involvement with Jeffery?

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Aug 12, 2019 20:05:07   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
peg w wrote:
What about Trumps involvement with Jeffery?


He knew him. He also kicked him out of his club. Never went on a trip with him to his island. Might want to ask about Bill Clinton. He actually went on trips with ol Jeffery.

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Aug 12, 2019 20:05:35   #
Crayons (a regular here)
 
peg w wrote:
What about Trumps involvement with Jeffery?

I would think anyone involved with the Clinton Foundation should be worried more
about themselves right now...the fallout could be bigger than expected

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Aug 12, 2019 20:21:30   #
dtucker300 (a regular here)
 
alabuck wrote:
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epstein Tweet, that we actually have a situation of a current President accusing a former - but alive - President of committing a serious crime like murder! But, in the age of Trump, it's just more noise, a crazy Tweet. Under any other previous President, this would have pretty much stopped the presses for days and we would’ve heard howls from members of both political parties. But, this is today and the Congressional GOPTPers don’t dare criticize Trump for fear of gaining his wrath and the wrath of his many minions.

Additionally, does anyone else think Trump was a bit quick to start stirring the pot and pointing the fingers away from himself?? What we know about the Clinton-Epstein association so far has mostly involved Epstein as a donor to Clinton and the fabled "26 flights" were not actually 26, but still were flights accompanied by others and from all, current and credible evidence, seem to have been trips abroad for Clinton Foundation work.

Trump, on the other hand, has a well known and long “social and party life” association with Epstein. There’s one documented occasion of Trump having thrown a party at Mar a Lago with just him - Epstein - and 28 calendar models. It seems Trump may have been a lot closer to "that part” of Epstein's life than Clinton was, but, it's still inconclusive if Trump was involved in the underage/illegal business with him.

And, as far as the Clinton's engineering “a hit,” Epstein was housed in a facility under the jurisdiction of Trump's Federal government-paid defense attorney, A.G. William Barr. According to Barr, himself, it's starting to sound like certain protocols weren't being followed regarding Epstein's watch. Which over-worked and under-paid guard(s) will be blamed for not following protocol and allowing Epstein to die before he maybe could implicate Trump in many of Epstein’s illegal sexual inner-actions with underage girls?

And, if proven and documented history is correct (as opposed to the “alternative-facts” used by most Trump apologists), this is the same William Barr, whose father originally employed Epstein as a “teacher” at an exclusive Manhattan school. Oddly, Epstein wasn’t even “credentialed” in the subjects he was hired to teach. Oh, and it was Trump's recently made “former” Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, who happened to be the US Justice Department’s prosecuting attorney who let Epstein off so lightly to begin with during his sex-trafficking cases in Florida.

So, to borrow from Trump's own play-book, “I'm not saying it, but many people are saying it,” or “...telling me,” President Trump has a far many more murky links to Epstein than anything regarding Bill Clinton has, thus far, come out. And, it's Trump with a political career to protect, now. Bill Clinton is on the retirement circuit and has been for a number of decades. Of course, Trump could always claim Hillary has simply moved her child sex ring away from the pizza parlor and into Epstein’s mansion on his private island.

My belief is that Trump’s tweet suggesting a Clinton involvement in Epstein’s sex-trafficking is just another of Trump’s more than 12 THOUSAND lies to be believed and spread by his millions of gullible, mindless minions. It’s just another move by Trump to move attention away from himself and toward someone else. No matter how ridiculous it is, he knows it’ll be believed by his base. In fact, the more ridiculous it is, the more believable it is by his followers.
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epst... (show quote)


What is the source of all your information? Is this strictly your words? Or, did someone else write this?
The whole fiasco is extremely disturbing. Do you expect we will ever find out the truth to this whole sordid affair? Considering the high profile of this offense, I would have had someone watching Epstein 24/7. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out, especially after his supposed suicide attempt three weeks ago. But no one ever said our government is smart, except maybe those who work for it and hold themselves in such very high esteem.

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Aug 12, 2019 20:41:57   #
dtucker300 (a regular here)
 
alabuck wrote:
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epstein Tweet, that we actually have a situation of a current President accusing a former - but alive - President of committing a serious crime like murder! But, in the age of Trump, it's just more noise, a crazy Tweet. Under any other previous President, this would have pretty much stopped the presses for days and we would’ve heard howls from members of both political parties. But, this is today and the Congressional GOPTPers don’t dare criticize Trump for fear of gaining his wrath and the wrath of his many minions.

Additionally, does anyone else think Trump was a bit quick to start stirring the pot and pointing the fingers away from himself?? What we know about the Clinton-Epstein association so far has mostly involved Epstein as a donor to Clinton and the fabled "26 flights" were not actually 26, but still were flights accompanied by others and from all, current and credible evidence, seem to have been trips abroad for Clinton Foundation work.

Trump, on the other hand, has a well known and long “social and party life” association with Epstein. There’s one documented occasion of Trump having thrown a party at Mar a Lago with just him - Epstein - and 28 calendar models. It seems Trump may have been a lot closer to "that part” of Epstein's life than Clinton was, but, it's still inconclusive if Trump was involved in the underage/illegal business with him.

And, as far as the Clinton's engineering “a hit,” Epstein was housed in a facility under the jurisdiction of Trump's Federal government-paid defense attorney, A.G. William Barr. According to Barr, himself, it's starting to sound like certain protocols weren't being followed regarding Epstein's watch. Which over-worked and under-paid guard(s) will be blamed for not following protocol and allowing Epstein to die before he maybe could implicate Trump in many of Epstein’s illegal sexual inner-actions with underage girls?

And, if proven and documented history is correct (as opposed to the “alternative-facts” used by most Trump apologists), this is the same William Barr, whose father originally employed Epstein as a “teacher” at an exclusive Manhattan school. Oddly, Epstein wasn’t even “credentialed” in the subjects he was hired to teach. Oh, and it was Trump's recently made “former” Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, who happened to be the US Justice Department’s prosecuting attorney who let Epstein off so lightly to begin with during his sex-trafficking cases in Florida.

So, to borrow from Trump's own play-book, “I'm not saying it, but many people are saying it,” or “...telling me,” President Trump has a far many more murky links to Epstein than anything regarding Bill Clinton has, thus far, come out. And, it's Trump with a political career to protect, now. Bill Clinton is on the retirement circuit and has been for a number of decades. Of course, Trump could always claim Hillary has simply moved her child sex ring away from the pizza parlor and into Epstein’s mansion on his private island.

My belief is that Trump’s tweet suggesting a Clinton involvement in Epstein’s sex-trafficking is just another of Trump’s more than 12 THOUSAND lies to be believed and spread by his millions of gullible, mindless minions. It’s just another move by Trump to move attention away from himself and toward someone else. No matter how ridiculous it is, he knows it’ll be believed by his base. In fact, the more ridiculous it is, the more believable it is by his followers.
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epst... (show quote)


Linda Goudsmit column
The Humanitarian Hoax of "assisted" suicide: Killing America with kindness - Hoax 43

Linda Goudsmit
August 12, 2019

The Humanitarian Hoax is a deliberate and deceitful tactic of presenting a destructive policy as altruistic. The humanitarian huckster presents himself as a compassionate advocate when in fact he is the disguised enemy.

Dr. Jack Kevorkian was the Michigan pathologist and euthanasia advocate who supported a patient's right to die by physician-assisted suicide. His famous remark, "Dying is not a crime," launched a public debate about the ethics of physician assisted-suicide.

Dr. Kevorkian was a pioneer in the controversial matter of physician-assisted suicide. Dubbed Dr. Death by the media, Kevorkian's career and trials were widely publicized, and discussions about the ethics of physician-assisted suicide went mainstream. Between 1994-1997 Kevorkian was tried four times for physician-assisted suicide.

In 1990, Dr. Kevorkian was arrested and convicted of second-degree murder for his role in the physician-assisted suicide of Thomas Youk 52, a patient in the final stages of Lou Gehrig's disease. Kevorkian was sentenced to 10-25 years in prison and then granted parole after serving 8 years. He devoted his last years to lecturing and changing the laws on physician-assisted suicide.

As individuals living in a free country we embrace our Constitutional rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but what about our right to die? Dr. Kevorkian raised public consciousness about terminally ill patients and their right to die. The problem, of course, is the opportunity for abuse in "assisting" suicides.

Legalizing assisted suicide is legalizing self-murder, so beyond any religious opposition to "playing God," there is the secular opposition based on the possibility of murder disguised as suicide. That brings us to "politically-assisted" suicide, and the increasingly suspicious and ever-growing Clinton family body count. WHAT??

It is impossible to ignore the growing list of individuals scheduled to testify against the Clintons who are mysteriously found dead before their court dates. Some have been ruled murders and some ruled suicides – all are suspicious. Let's take a look at a few.

March of 2015: FBI Special Agent David Raynor was found stabbed and murdered with his own gun the day before he was scheduled to testify before the US Federal Grand Jury. Raynor was expected to expose that Clinton acted illegally to coverup the Fast and Furious scandal to protect Obama. Raynor was leading the investigation into the murder of one of the main witnesses, homicide Detective Sean Suiter, who Raynor believed had been killed before he could testify that the Obama administration, ". . .was criminally complicit in allowing guns to flow into the hands of criminals on the Mexican border." Politically-assisted suicide?

July of 2017: Klaus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official scheduled to testify against Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice was found dead in Miami with a gunshot wound to his head – the death was ruled a suicide. Eberwein was expected to expose that only 0.6% of donations for Haitian aid were actually received, 9.6% went to the Haitian government, and 89.8% – a whopping 5.5 billion dollars went to non-Haitian organizations. Politically-assisted suicide?

June 22, 2016: Who can forget John Ashe, the former United Nations General Assembly President who "accidentally" dropped a barbell on his throat the day he was supposed to testify about Hillary Clinton's ties to Ng Lap Seng, the Chinese businessman on trial for bribery. Ng Lap Seng had been implicated in the 1996 China-gate scandal for funneling illegal donations to Bill Clinton's re-election campaign. Politically-assisted suicide?

July 20, 1993: Vince Foster, deputy White House Counsel, had intimate knowledge of the Clintons' personal finances and had been called to testify about records that Hillary refused to turn over. Foster was found dead in Ft Marcy Park in Washington, DC. His death was reported as a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his mouth, and ruled a suicide even though the suicide note was forged, and the gunshot wound to the back of his neck went unreported. Politically-assisted suicide?

July 10, 2016: Seth Rich, the DNC Voter Expansion Data Director, found shot multiple times near his home in Bloomingdale, DC. His death was ruled a robbery gone bad even though nothing was taken – his wallet, watch, and cell phone were there. Really? One wonders just how stupid the media thinks the public really is. Seth Rich has been identified by many as the internal leak of the 20,000 DNC emails that proved the DNC was rigging primaries to favor Hillary. Seth Rich could prove that there was no Russian hack – and then he was dead. Politically-assisted suicide?

August 10, 1991: Danny Casolaro, a journalist working on a book exposing government-sanctioned drug running, was found dead in his hotel bathtub. His death was ruled a suicide even though the slashes severed the tendons to his fingers making it impossible for him to slash both wrists. Casolaro was investigating the curious case of the Justice Department's theft of a law enforcement database software system called Prosecutors Management Information System (PROMIS) from a company called Inslaw. In 1991 PROMIS was unique because it could be programmed to automatically access other databases. It was a powerful spying tool used during the time of the Iran-Contra affair, the CIA's clandestine gun and drug running operation that supplied the Nicaraguan Contras with untraceable weapons. Under then-governor Bill Clinton'swatch, Nicaragua was at one end of the drug smuggling pipeline, and Mena, Arkansas at the other. WHAT?? We will come back to this.

February 19, 1986: Barry Seal, the Louisiana pilot who smuggled drugs in and out of the Mena airport for the Medellin Cartel was murdered. Seal was earning as much as $1,300,000 per flight to transport cocaine from Colombia and Panama to the United States. In 1984 Seal was caught and made a deal to become an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). Seal testified against the Medellin Drug Cartel and was murdered by contract killers hired by Pablo Escobar, head of the cartel. On March 29, 1995 Robert Bates, Barry Seal's mechanic, supposedly died of an "overdose of mouthwash." Seriously?

The list of suspicious deaths, euphemistically called the Clinton body count or Arkancide, continues to grow but perhaps the most intriguing at this moment is the death of CIA drug pilot Barry Seal. Are we supposed to believe that the CIA drug running stopped with Barry Seal's death? Not likely. Enter Jeffrey Epstein.

August 10, 2019: Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein found dead in his cell the day after 2,000 court documents were unsealed. The media remains focused on the names of the rich and famous who would have been outed if Epstein's case went to trial. I am far more interested in what else was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane besides underage girls. Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein replaced Barry Seal? Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein's extremely suspicious "suicide" was an attempt to stop him from making a deal with the DOJ that would have outed Hillary, Bill, and Obama's malfeasance in CIA covert drug running operations? Politically-motivated suicide?

Financier Jeffrey Epstein worked at the investment bank Bear Stearns before forming his own firm in 1982, J. Epstein & Co in St Thomas, VI. Epstein's firm serviced an exclusively wealthy clients with $1 billion or more in assets. The dubious nature of Epstein's business was discussed in a Business Insider article dated July 22, 2009 by Jay Carney titled, "Is Jeff Epstein Also Running a Ponzi Scheme?"

The article asks if Epstein is running a Ponzi scheme? There are no analysts, portfolio managers, or traders. All the investment decisions are made by Epstein himself. Epstein has absolute control of the money, charges a flat fee of between $25 million-$100 million, and takes no share of the profits. Even more curious according to Carney, "There are no SEC filings disclosing Epstein's holdings. Not one. It's hard to see how he could be managing billions without ever tripping a disclosure trigger, unless he avoids the stock market altogether and only invests in private deals." Perhaps Jeffrey Epstein's private deals were with the CIA – perhaps not.

Doug Band, deputy assistant and then counselor to Bill Clinton, introduced Epstein to Clinton. Band served as President Clinton's aide and travelled to 125 countries with Clinton. During his post-presidency, Band helped set up the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation. Band negotiated with the Obama administration to have Hillary Clinton become Secretary of State. Oh my!

Perhaps Epstein's Lolita Express was flying cargo besides the conspicuously underage young girls. Perhaps Epstein was flying drugs and money in and out of the Virgin Islands which is known to be the South American cartel drug-trafficking trans-shipment point. According to a 4.10.15 article in Virgin Island News, "One of the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives was captured (a Virgin Islander 'Jimmy the Juice' Springette) and testified in 2008 about the massive drug-trafficking operation transporting tons of cocaine for South American Cartels through the Virgin Islands to the mainland United States via the airport, cruise-ships, and other means."

Perhaps during the 27 times that Bill Clinton flew with Jeffrey Epstein aboard the Lolita Express, the teenage girls onboard were the main attraction that shielded the late-night show. If the smugglers were ever caught, the sex trafficking would be the focus of the investigation and the drug running would remain concealed. Diversionary tactics are classic strategies of war – why would drug wars be any different?

It simply strains credulity to believe that the extremely suspicious death of Jeffrey Epstein was a suicide – unless of course it was a politically-assisted suicide.

The humanitarian hoax of politically-assisted suicide must be investigated as part of Attorney General Barr's efforts to drain the corrupt Washington swamp and restore government credibility. Enough is enough! The country has had enough of the Clinton Crime family. It is time to investigate prominent American political crime families for racketeering starting with the odious Clintons.

Linda Goudsmit is a devoted wife to husband Rob and they are the parents of four children and the grandparents of four. She and Rob owned and operated a girls' clothing store in Michigan for 40 years and retired in 2013 to the beaches of sunny Florida. A graduate of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Linda has a lifelong commitment to learning and is an avid reader and observer of life. She is the author of the philosophy book Dear America: Who's Driving the Bus? as well as a children's series, MIMI'S STRATEGY. It is with pride and humility that she is sharing her thoughts, observations, and philosophy of behavior in the many articles she has written that are featured on Renew America.

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Aug 12, 2019 21:48:03   #
vernon (a regular here)
 
alabuck wrote:
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epstein Tweet, that we actually have a situation of a current President accusing a former - but alive - President of committing a serious crime like murder! But, in the age of Trump, it's just more noise, a crazy Tweet. Under any other previous President, this would have pretty much stopped the presses for days and we would’ve heard howls from members of both political parties. But, this is today and the Congressional GOPTPers don’t dare criticize Trump for fear of gaining his wrath and the wrath of his many minions.

Additionally, does anyone else think Trump was a bit quick to start stirring the pot and pointing the fingers away from himself?? What we know about the Clinton-Epstein association so far has mostly involved Epstein as a donor to Clinton and the fabled "26 flights" were not actually 26, but still were flights accompanied by others and from all, current and credible evidence, seem to have been trips abroad for Clinton Foundation work.

Trump, on the other hand, has a well known and long “social and party life” association with Epstein. There’s one documented occasion of Trump having thrown a party at Mar a Lago with just him - Epstein - and 28 calendar models. It seems Trump may have been a lot closer to "that part” of Epstein's life than Clinton was, but, it's still inconclusive if Trump was involved in the underage/illegal business with him.

And, as far as the Clinton's engineering “a hit,” Epstein was housed in a facility under the jurisdiction of Trump's Federal government-paid defense attorney, A.G. William Barr. According to Barr, himself, it's starting to sound like certain protocols weren't being followed regarding Epstein's watch. Which over-worked and under-paid guard(s) will be blamed for not following protocol and allowing Epstein to die before he maybe could implicate Trump in many of Epstein’s illegal sexual inner-actions with underage girls?

And, if proven and documented history is correct (as opposed to the “alternative-facts” used by most Trump apologists), this is the same William Barr, whose father originally employed Epstein as a “teacher” at an exclusive Manhattan school. Oddly, Epstein wasn’t even “credentialed” in the subjects he was hired to teach. Oh, and it was Trump's recently made “former” Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta, who happened to be the US Justice Department’s prosecuting attorney who let Epstein off so lightly to begin with during his sex-trafficking cases in Florida.

So, to borrow from Trump's own play-book, “I'm not saying it, but many people are saying it,” or “...telling me,” President Trump has a far many more murky links to Epstein than anything regarding Bill Clinton has, thus far, come out. And, it's Trump with a political career to protect, now. Bill Clinton is on the retirement circuit and has been for a number of decades. Of course, Trump could always claim Hillary has simply moved her child sex ring away from the pizza parlor and into Epstein’s mansion on his private island.

My belief is that Trump’s tweet suggesting a Clinton involvement in Epstein’s sex-trafficking is just another of Trump’s more than 12 THOUSAND lies to be believed and spread by his millions of gullible, mindless minions. It’s just another move by Trump to move attention away from himself and toward someone else. No matter how ridiculous it is, he knows it’ll be believed by his base. In fact, the more ridiculous it is, the more believable it is by his followers.
That's what shocked me the most about Trump's Epst... (show quote)


The shit caused by that lying hil and others I don't blame Trump on iota for saying what he thinks.

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Aug 12, 2019 21:53:15   #
2bltap (a regular here)
 
To all here. First hello and I hope all is well for all of you. Please think about this for just a few moments. President Trump since he became POTUS has not to my knowledge every posted Something that DID NOT HAVE TRUTH TO SOME DEGREE IN THEM. We all really need to remember that he is way more involved with things unknown to all of us and quite frankly has been giving various types of hints as to what IS GOING ON behind the scenes. So seriously just pause for a few moments for some thought about this. By the way some his Tweets are not necessary in my opinion. But hey it si what it is. He is and has been referred to as the most available and transparent president. It really is something for even the MSM to have said these things pertaining to his outreach to the American Populace. You all take good care!
Semper Fi
Mike

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Aug 12, 2019 22:15:47   #
Doctor Dave
 
Mike, that is an excellent line of reasoning. Thanks.

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Aug 12, 2019 22:47:44   #
dtucker300 (a regular here)
 
2bltap wrote:
To all here. First hello and I hope all is well for all of you. Please think about this for just a few moments. President Trump since he became POTUS has not to my knowledge every posted Something that DID NOT HAVE TRUTH TO SOME DEGREE IN THEM. We all really need to remember that he is way more involved with things unknown to all of us and quite frankly has been giving various types of hints as to what IS GOING ON behind the scenes. So seriously just pause for a few moments for some thought about this. By the way some his Tweets are not necessary in my opinion. But hey it si what it is. He is and has been referred to as the most available and transparent president. It really is something for even the MSM to have said these things pertaining to his outreach to the American Populace. You all take good care!
Semper Fi
Mike
To all here. First hello and I hope all is well f... (show quote)


I think you may have hit on something that the left will never acknowledge. Good luck. You've opened yourself to unending ridicule from the leftist SJW, Antifa, BLM, etc.

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Aug 13, 2019 00:54:49   #
alabuck
 
“...but unfortunately the Union representing the
the Prison where Epstein was killed is all run top down by Hillbilly Clintock donors and supporters...I don't
find this at all surprising.”

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I hate to burst your bubble but, AG Bill Barr is the one who heads-up the DOJ and therefore the prison(s), not the union. Besides, with staffing at 70% and people being forced to work 12-14 hour days, something will go wrong. Also, the guard assigned to watch Epstein isn’t even a full-time guard nor was he trained as such.

Now, we have President Numb-nuts tweeting more unfounded (aka totally made-up, aka lies) conspiracy theories, in his attempt to shift the focus away from himself and onto the Clintons. Seems to most people, that if you’re going to accuse someone of illegal activities, one should offer some sort of verifiable proof along with the accusation. I suppose I’m asking too much, though. Those who choose to believe Trump are also willing to believe anything he says without questioning him on at all.

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Aug 13, 2019 01:09:07   #
dtucker300 (a regular here)
 
alabuck wrote:
“...but unfortunately the Union representing the
the Prison where Epstein was killed is all run top down by Hillbilly Clintock donors and supporters...I don't
find this at all surprising.”

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I hate to burst your bubble but, AG Bill Barr is the one who heads-up the DOJ and therefore the prison(s), not the union. Besides, with staffing at 70% and people being forced to work 12-14 hour days, something will go wrong. Also, the guard assigned to watch Epstein isn’t even a full-time guard nor was he trained as such.

Now, we have President Numb-nuts tweeting more unfounded (aka totally made-up, aka lies) conspiracy theories, in his attempt to shift the focus away from himself and onto the Clintons. Seems to most people, that if you’re going to accuse someone of illegal activities, one should offer some sort of verifiable proof along with the accusation. I suppose I’m asking too much, though. Those who choose to believe Trump are also willing to believe anything he says without questioning him on at all.
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I find the entire affair and most of the comments from every side to be boorish and unseemly distasteful. It reminds me of the Manson Murders and President Nixon, a lawyer who should know better, commenting on Mansion's guilt instead of alleged crimes during the trial. Sometimes you have to remain quiet and let the system do its' work.

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He knew him. He also kicked him out of his club. Never went on a trip with him to his island. Might want to ask about Bill Clinton. He actually went on trips with ol Jeffery.


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“Never went on a trip with him to his island.”

But Trump, sure as hell, made several visits to Epstein’s homes in Florida and NYC. Trump even hosted an exclusive party for Epstein at Mar-a-Lago, replete with beautiful young women fawning all over Trump and Epstein.

It wasn’t until Epstein and Trump got into a bidding war over a particular mansion in Florida that Trump ended their friendship. Beginning in the late ’80s, Epstein and Trump hit it off, as shown in the recently unearthed footage of the two of them ogling NFL cheerleaders together at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Resort in 1992. They were photographed together in 1992, 1997, and in 2000, with Trump’s then-girlfriend Melania Knauss. According to Epstein’s brother, Trump also hitched a ride from Florida to New York on Epstein’s private plane sometime around the year, 2000. Then, there’s that 2002 quote Trump gave to the New Yorker: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

But according to a news report from the Washington Post, in 2004, the pair let a mansion called the House of Friendship tear them apart. Bidding on Maison de l’Amitie in Palm Beach, both Trump and Epstein really wanted to win the oceanfront property being sold out of bankruptcy. The trustee in the case, Joseph Luzinski, told the Washington Post of the process: “It was something like, Donald saying, ‘You don’t want to do a deal with him, he doesn’t have the money,’ while Epstein was saying: ‘Donald is all talk. He doesn’t have the money.’ They both really wanted it.” Around that time, Trump banned the financier from Mar-a-Lago without giving an explanation.

In a November 2004, interview, Trump said he was “fixated on winning the finest piece of land in Florida and probably the U.S.,” refering to the six-acre parcel that the bank had seized from Abe Gosman. It was, in Trump’s words, the “second greatest house in America,’” conveniently just a ten-minute drive from the number-one home, Mar-a-Lago. Gosman had purchased the property in 1988 for around $12 million from Leslie Wexner, Epstein’s benefactor; with a strong initial bid at-auction of $37.25 million, it appeared the financier was about to take it back. But bidding soon shot up to $38.6 million and “Trump had made up his mind to get it no matter the price,” a lawyer present at the auction told the Washington Post. Trump’s bid eventually rose to $41.35 million, and he won the house. That month also marked the last known contact between the two. Shortly after the auction, Trump said he’d left two voicemails for Epstein at his Palm Beach home.

Two weeks post-auction, Palm Beach police followed up on a tip that “young girls” were seen frequently leaving Epstein’s house. Four years after Trump won the bid, he sold it to Russian businessman Dmitry Rybolovlev (an intimate of Putin’s) for $95 million — a deal that was investigated by the special counsel as part of Robert Mueller’s inquiry into Trump-Russia connections.

Alas, the House of Friendship is no more: In 2016, the estate was demolished and divided in thirds for developers to build up.

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