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Aug 9, 2019 12:57:12   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Simple question, now answer it.

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Aug 9, 2019 13:36:06   #
Big dog
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


Any rifle used in an assault.

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Aug 9, 2019 13:46:57   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Any? Like a paintball gun?





Big dog wrote:
Any rifle used in an assault.

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Aug 9, 2019 13:46:58   #
steve66613
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


To any l*****t: any skeewy wookin’ gun.....oh mommy save me!

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Aug 9, 2019 14:03:11   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Am so tired of then being called an assault rifle, check your local registration and see what it costs if you do this by the book. $250 and up just to register it. Had 4 now have 1 and the three people that bought had to wait 30 days.





steve66613 wrote:
To any l*****t: any skeewy wookin’ gun.....oh mommy save me!

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Aug 9, 2019 14:29:13   #
Kevyn
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.

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Aug 9, 2019 14:46:31   #
woodguru
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


Typically speaking assault rifles are variants of firearms developed for military purposes like the M-16 and AK-47...they typically are configured to a standard NATO cartridge for easily acquired bulk ammo.

Those on the right know what an assault weapon is, and start to sound silly when they act ignorant.

I am looking at getting an AR platform rifle chambered in Ruger .204, it's a necked down .223, so the smaller bullet shoots faster and flatter than a .223, it's a great coyote round, and even with legal 10 shot magazines is far more effective at shooting multiple coyotes because of the faster followup than a bolt action can do. If I can't get one I'll make do with my bolt actions. In the meantime while they are legal they are very effective with even 10 shot mags. If all that is available is the 10 shot magazines it reduces their firepower in situations where the intent is to k**l as many people as possible partially because each magazine takes up a lot of room in a satchel or pocket. The only way to make a magazine size restriction possible is for it to be all states and carry a serious penalty for even having them.

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Aug 9, 2019 17:48:52   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
You guys are over the place and there's tons of misinformation. Has nothing to do with NATO nor with a grenade launcher go buy some grenades. With the media it's looks and nothing more.
The MMR, like many of the privately and legally owned rifles like it, are designed based on what is known as the “AR-15 Platform”. The AR-15 platform is simply a design platform based on an original design by Eugene Stoner in the 1950’s. Any and all firearms built on the AR-15 platform are commonly referred to as an AR-15 but they have many names depending on the manufacturer. Some of these names are M&P15, SR15, M15 and MMR. They are all AR-15’s in the sense that Ram 1500’s, Ford F-150’s and Chevy 1500’s are all half-ton pickup trucks. There’s a lot that make them similar and a lot that separate them. In they end they are trucks, just like AR-15’s are rifles. Comparison ends there.
How about a nice AR-10 or maybe an AR-30? By the way lead for an AR-15, 7.62x55 OR 5.56 NATO.







woodguru wrote:
Typically speaking assault rifles are variants of firearms developed for military purposes like the M-16 and AK-47...they typically are configured to a standard NATO cartridge for easily acquired bulk ammo.

Those on the right know what an assault weapon is, and start to sound silly when they act ignorant.

I am looking at getting an AR platform rifle chambered in Ruger .204, it's a necked down .223, so the smaller bullet shoots faster and flatter than a .223, it's a great coyote round, and even with legal 10 shot magazines is far more effective at shooting multiple coyotes because of the faster followup than a bolt action can do. If I can't get one I'll make do with my bolt actions. In the meantime while they are legal they are very effective with even 10 shot mags. If all that is available is the 10 shot magazines it reduces their firepower in situations where the intent is to k**l as many people as possible partially because each magazine takes up a lot of room in a satchel or pocket. The only way to make a magazine size restriction possible is for it to be all states and carry a serious penalty for even having them.
Typically speaking assault rifles are variants of ... (show quote)

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Aug 9, 2019 19:57:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle i... (show quote)
This argument, this debate, this controversy over what is an "assault rifle" is beyond ridiculous.

This "legal definition" is a politician's idea of what is an "assault rifle". This definition expired with the law into which it was written. Good riddance!

A person can assault another with a hammer, a beer bottle, or a pickup truck. And a gun of any kind.

In military combat operations, troop carried weapons--full auto, semi-auto, bolt action, or pump--are used as both offensive and defensive weapons. These weapons are in the hands of assault troops, fire teams, over-watch teams, sentries, guards, and security troops.

Police departments and federal LE agencies employ Special Weapons And Tactics teams--keywords "special weapons". These special weapons are fully automatic and may be used by SWAT to ASSAULT. Some police officers are equipped with them or with semi-auto rifles, such as the AR15, but they do not assault anyone unless necessary. And, they can be used for suppression and defense.

As a simple example, troops defending positions or bases are armed with machine guns, automatic/select fire rifles, semi-auto pistols, grenades and launchers, mortars, etc. They are not assaulting anyone, they are defending.

There is only one rifle in history that was designated specifically as an assault rifle and it was so designated by the manufacturer with the approval of the national leader--the Sturmgewehr 44. Manufactured in 1944 in N**i Germany, the StG44 was the result of Germany's desperate attempt to put its armies back on the offensive. A limited number of these fully automatic rifles were issued to combat troops, but it was way too late.

A semi-automatic rifle such as the AR15 or the civilian equivalent of the AK47 cannot and never should be designated or defined as an "assault rifle". To define them as such falls entirely within the anti-gun political agenda, and that, as we all should know, has nothing to do with reality. (Note: "AR15" is the manufacturer's designation for the model 15 Armalite Rifle.)

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Sturmgewehr 44
Sturmgewehr 44...

SS soldiier with StG44 retreating in the Ardennes, 1944.
SS soldiier with StG44 retreating in the Ardennes,...

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Aug 10, 2019 04:50:15   #
PeterS
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.

It's simpler to just call them semi-automatics.

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Aug 10, 2019 04:58:50   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


A semi-automatic rifle such as the AR15 or the civilian equivalent of the AK47 cannot and never should be designated or defined as an "assault rifle". To define them as such falls entirely within the anti-gun political agenda, and that, as we all should know, has nothing to do with reality. (Note: "AR15" is the manufacturer's designation for the model 15 Armalite Rifle.).

But they are used as assault rifles and the principle you people want them is so you feel like you can o*******w the next Liberal Despot--which you think your misunderstood view of the constitution gives you the right to do.

So since their application for you is the same as an assault rifle in the military the nomenclature should be the same especially since you once boasted of being able to walk out the door with how many hundreds of rounds of ammo? One wouldn't make such boasts unless one intended to do some serious assaulting...which I believe was the point you were making...

But to hell with all that. Let's just ban all semi-auto weapons and nomenclature be hanged...

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Aug 10, 2019 06:30:56   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Big dog wrote:
Any rifle used in an assault.


How about an assault knife, or 2x4 or baseball bat or machete or vehicle on and on.

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Aug 10, 2019 06:34:16   #
promilitary
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle i... (show quote)



All of which amounts to squat till some nutball picks it up and starts shooting people.
It's not the rifle, stupid, it's the assaulter.

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Aug 10, 2019 07:17:31   #
Big dog
 
bmac32 wrote:
Any? Like a paintball gun?


Especially a Paintball gun.

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Aug 10, 2019 07:23:17   #
Big dog
 
PeterS wrote:
But they are used as assault rifles and the principle you people want them is so you feel like you can o*******w the next Liberal Despot--which you think your misunderstood view of the constitution gives you the right to do.

So since their application for you is the same as an assault rifle in the military the nomenclature should be the same especially since you once boasted of being able to walk out the door with how many hundreds of rounds of ammo? One wouldn't make such boasts unless one intended to do some serious assaulting...which I believe was the point you were making...

But to hell with all that. Let's just ban all semi-auto weapons and nomenclature be hanged...
But they are used as assault rifles and the princi... (show quote)


What about that bolt action.308 with a 3x16 scope sighted in at 300 yards?

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