I beg the Right to open their eyes to the vile consequences, and un-American proposal, to make "Show me your papers" a national law: Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in...

rumitoid

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in Europe and the entire populace. Making a brown person "other" in our society, a profiled suspect, through such an autocratic mandate is not just a disgrace to the ideals and values of our Republic, but a path to destruction of that Republic. Please, please wake up! Drop your h**e of immigrants to perceive the greater threat to our country by such a measure. This policy will not resolve the immigration crisis but desolve democracy. It becomes a precedent, and it is that serious. You need to ask whose next if we allow such actions to be taken. As in this statement by Martin Niemöller, a Lutheran pastor:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Trump is coming hot and heavy after the "socialist," look at his lies and vicious attacks against the Squad who he claims are socialists. The Trade Unions have been under siege by the GOP for years. It can happen here. It is happening.

President Donald Trump is taking Arizona’s infamous "show me your papers" law nationwide.

The Trump administration began Tuesday an expanded crackdown on undocumented immigrants who cannot prove they’ve been in the country continuously for more than two years. Under this new rule that also applies to asylum seekers, immigration agents can arrest and deport immigrants without appearing before a judge. This will violate both the laws of this nation and International Law.

Until now, the law applied to migrants who were within 100 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border.

Why is this a big deal? For starters, it might be unconstitutional, and that’s why the American Civil Liberties Union has vowed to challenge it in court.

Let’s hope the ACLU blocks it. Otherwise “brown” people across the nation could find themselves the targets just like Arizona Latinos did under the state’s SB 1070, the “show me your papers” law.

The new effort could have the same impact it did in Arizona. The 2010 Arizona law required local police to ask for the immigration status of anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. For some officers, particularly Maricopa County Sheriff’s deputies, that meant “brown” people.

It’s called racial profiling.

NDfree Loc: Indiana USA

I think there needs to be some sort of process - probable cause &/or warrant etc. But something has to be done to curb the illegal activity being committed daily in the USA. Its invasion by hostile entities.

Lonewolf

NDfree wrote:

I think there needs to be some sort of process - probable cause &/or warrant etc. But something has to be done to curb the illegal activity being committed daily in the USA. Its invasion by hostile entities.

A simple law fining employers 10,000 dollars per employee and one month in jail for each employee. If its a corporation then the ceo goes to jail.

Falcon20

not all your i******s are brown, if you're going to be that nit-picky do a dna profile for all legal citizens, and see where that gets you! HO! HO! HO!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

rumitoid wrote:

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in Europe and the entire populace. Making a brown person "other" in our society, a profiled suspect, through such an autocratic mandate is not just a disgrace to the ideals and values of our Republic, but a path to destruction of that Republic. Please, please wake up! Drop your h**e of immigrants to perceive the greater threat to our country by such a measure. This policy will not resolve the immigration crisis but desolve democracy. It becomes a precedent, and it is that serious. You need to ask whose next if we allow such actions to be taken. As in this statement by Martin Niemöller, a Lutheran pastor:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Trump is coming hot and heavy after the "socialist," look at his lies and vicious attacks against the Squad who he claims are socialists. The Trade Unions have been under siege by the GOP for years. It can happen here. It is happening.

President Donald Trump is taking Arizona’s infamous "show me your papers" law nationwide.

The Trump administration began Tuesday an expanded crackdown on undocumented immigrants who cannot prove they’ve been in the country continuously for more than two years. Under this new rule that also applies to asylum seekers, immigration agents can arrest and deport immigrants without appearing before a judge. This will violate both the laws of this nation and International Law.

Until now, the law applied to migrants who were within 100 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border.

Why is this a big deal? For starters, it might be unconstitutional, and that’s why the American Civil Liberties Union has vowed to challenge it in court.

Let’s hope the ACLU blocks it. Otherwise “brown” people across the nation could find themselves the targets just like Arizona Latinos did under the state’s SB 1070, the “show me your papers” law.

The new effort could have the same impact it did in Arizona. The 2010 Arizona law required local police to ask for the immigration status of anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. For some officers, particularly Maricopa County Sheriff’s deputies, that meant “brown” people.

It’s called racial profiling.

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in ... (show quote)

Every where I went in Europe, some dude in a uniform asked me, montre moi tes papiers.
Passeport s'il vous plaît.
Zeig mir deine Papiere.
Reisepass bitte.
Muéstrame tus papeles.
Pasaporte por favor.

rumitoid

Falcon20 wrote:

not all your i******s are brown, if you're going to be that nit-picky do a dna profile for all legal citizens, and see where that gets you! HO! HO! HO!

I agree, except that what Trump proposes involves Brown people only.

rumitoid

Blade_Runner wrote:

Every where I went in Europe, some dude in a uniform asked me, montre moi tes papiers.
Passeport s'il vous plaît.
Zeig mir deine Papiere.
Reisepass bitte.
Muéstrame tus papeles.
Pasaporte por favor.

Because you were White? Because you were American? Asking everyone about their passport is far, far different than profiling Brown people for their papers only.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

rumitoid wrote:

Because you were White? Because you were American? Asking everyone about their passport is far, far different than profiling Brown people for their papers only.

Who's profiling brown people? Somebody is feeding you a load of s**t. Again.

Rose42

rumitoid wrote:

I agree, except that what Trump proposes involves Brown people only.

Provide a source please.

rumitoid

Blade_Runner wrote:

Who's profiling brown people? Somebody is feeding you a load of s**t. Again.

Then you are not keeping up with the news or have chosen a blind eye to what happened in Arizona.

rumitoid

Rose42 wrote:

Provide a source please.

Here is a little advice about the internet and any problems you may about sources or t***h: put is on a search engine. Just simply google or wh**ever Arizona's papers please law. Not difficult. If you are waiting for me to post a source that you will dismiss because it is a l*****t rag as in the other thread, find a source you trust on the subject to refute me. Ez-pz. You demand a source and then when given you dismiss it out of hand. Why should I bother? If you care about t***h, do your own research.

Rose42

rumitoid wrote:

Here is a little advice about the internet and any... (show quote)

Here is a little advice if you want to be taken seriously not to mention show a little common courtesy - source your claims and avoid plagiarism.

rumitoid

Rose42 wrote:

Here is a little advice if you want to be taken seriously not to mention show a little common courtesy - source your claims and avoid plagiarism.

Thank you. But listen to my advice and do a little of your own research instead of just blackballing any source you don't like for wh**ever reason. It gets really frustrating responding to you and others that cannot simply employ a search engine for answers. I may be a bad or rotten messenger of what happened: prove that with a couple of clicks with a mouse.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

rumitoid wrote:

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in Europe and the entire populace. Making a brown person "other" in our society, a profiled suspect, through such an autocratic mandate is not just a disgrace to the ideals and values of our Republic, but a path to destruction of that Republic. Please, please wake up! Drop your h**e of immigrants to perceive the greater threat to our country by such a measure. This policy will not resolve the immigration crisis but desolve democracy. It becomes a precedent, and it is that serious. You need to ask whose next if we allow such actions to be taken. As in this statement by Martin Niemöller, a Lutheran pastor:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Trump is coming hot and heavy after the "socialist," look at his lies and vicious attacks against the Squad who he claims are socialists. The Trade Unions have been under siege by the GOP for years. It can happen here. It is happening.

President Donald Trump is taking Arizona’s infamous "show me your papers" law nationwide.

The Trump administration began Tuesday an expanded crackdown on undocumented immigrants who cannot prove they’ve been in the country continuously for more than two years. Under this new rule that also applies to asylum seekers, immigration agents can arrest and deport immigrants without appearing before a judge. This will violate both the laws of this nation and International Law.

Until now, the law applied to migrants who were within 100 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border.

Why is this a big deal? For starters, it might be unconstitutional, and that’s why the American Civil Liberties Union has vowed to challenge it in court.

Let’s hope the ACLU blocks it. Otherwise “brown” people across the nation could find themselves the targets just like Arizona Latinos did under the state’s SB 1070, the “show me your papers” law.

The new effort could have the same impact it did in Arizona. The 2010 Arizona law required local police to ask for the immigration status of anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. For some officers, particularly Maricopa County Sheriff’s deputies, that meant “brown” people.

It’s called racial profiling.

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in ... (show quote)

Brown, Black, yellow, red, rainbow, or white, if they have their papers they will be fine...

JW

rumitoid wrote:

Those very words chilled to the bone every Jew in Europe and the entire populace.
....

You know, Rumi, it would actually be nice if for once you knew what you were talking about.

Those words never chilled anyone to the bone or to any other body part... then or now. Every European carries a small booklet or card that identifies him or her. They have carried those 'papers' since WWI. They are to be presented upon demand and can be demanded by any authority wanting to determine age or identity. It has been that way for a hundred years and is still that way.

In this country, the 'papers' are a driver license or a passport. When migrants are called undocumented, it means they lack identity papers.