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POW that was a Deserter from the Army
Jun 2, 2014 10:56:11   #
saveamerica Loc: Texas
 
Obama got his pig, and I make no apology for that description of PFC Bergdahl (he was promoted to sergeant while being held captive) for this is where this discussion turns deadly serious. As a former non-commissioned officer who served in combat with another airborne unit, my first reaction upon hearing of Bergdahl’s desertion many years ago was, get him back, give him a fair court-martial and put him in front of a firing squad. Good, honorable paratroopers lost their lives searching for this treasonous bastard. Various sources from Bergdahl’s unit, the 501st Airborne Infantry are reporting in around the Web with this information:

PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl.

Those deaths, every single one, are on Bergdahl’s head. For the squeamish among you who find my opinion too harsh, here’s Article 85 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the statutory regulation dealing with desertion:
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

And there is damning evidence against PFC Bergdahl from those in his unit. He made no secret of his disillusionment with America, sending emails to his parents, one of which contained this statement, “The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools...I am sorry for everything here”
Notice that non-capitalization of American. A fellow trooper, Jason Fry, has reported that Bergdahl told him, "If this deployment is lame, I'm just going to walk off into the mountains of Pakistan."

So yes, we can court-martial this dishonorable deserter whose selfish views and actions caused all those unnecessary deaths and take his life or lock him away for the rest of it for the simple reason that the son of a bitch walked out on his band of brothers in an active combat zone in an act of betrayal that caused the deaths of his brothers in arms who willingly went in search of him, to save his sorry, weasel ass. Those events have immeasurable consequences on those both above and below his rank that he deserted. There is no greater crime that a combat infantryman can commit than desertion to the enemy on the battlefield. Were he to be judged by his fellow paratroopers, he’d be dead in the blink of an eye for the deaths that he caused. He willingly manipulated and violated the code of, “No man left behind,” for his own selfish sense of fulfillment that proved deadly to troopers in the 501st Infantry, and who knows how many more in special operations, who sent in patrols for years trying to find this weak-ass traitor.

So, Mister President, in another demonstration of your unprecedented presidential ineptitude, you just unleashed five, ferociously rabid, bloody-tusked, Islamic boars on our world and our troops for a weak-ass, whiny, little piglet traitor that would fit neatly under Bill Clinton’s arm.

Not a smart trade, Sir…

Now the Military can execute Bergdahl for desertion.

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/not_a_smart_trade_sir.html

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Jun 2, 2014 11:07:20   #
PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.
 
ok, I agree. but... why are they celebrating?

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Jun 2, 2014 11:16:43   #
Brian Devon
 
saveamerica wrote:
Obama got his pig, and I make no apology for that description of PFC Bergdahl (he was promoted to sergeant while being held captive) for this is where this discussion turns deadly serious. As a former non-commissioned officer who served in combat with another airborne unit, my first reaction upon hearing of Bergdahl’s desertion many years ago was, get him back, give him a fair court-martial and put him in front of a firing squad. Good, honorable paratroopers lost their lives searching for this treasonous bastard. Various sources from Bergdahl’s unit, the 501st Airborne Infantry are reporting in around the Web with this information:

PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl.

Those deaths, every single one, are on Bergdahl’s head. For the squeamish among you who find my opinion too harsh, here’s Article 85 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the statutory regulation dealing with desertion:
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

And there is damning evidence against PFC Bergdahl from those in his unit. He made no secret of his disillusionment with America, sending emails to his parents, one of which contained this statement, “The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools...I am sorry for everything here”
Notice that non-capitalization of American. A fellow trooper, Jason Fry, has reported that Bergdahl told him, "If this deployment is lame, I'm just going to walk off into the mountains of Pakistan."

So yes, we can court-martial this dishonorable deserter whose selfish views and actions caused all those unnecessary deaths and take his life or lock him away for the rest of it for the simple reason that the son of a bitch walked out on his band of brothers in an active combat zone in an act of betrayal that caused the deaths of his brothers in arms who willingly went in search of him, to save his sorry, weasel ass. Those events have immeasurable consequences on those both above and below his rank that he deserted. There is no greater crime that a combat infantryman can commit than desertion to the enemy on the battlefield. Were he to be judged by his fellow paratroopers, he’d be dead in the blink of an eye for the deaths that he caused. He willingly manipulated and violated the code of, “No man left behind,” for his own selfish sense of fulfillment that proved deadly to troopers in the 501st Infantry, and who knows how many more in special operations, who sent in patrols for years trying to find this weak-ass traitor.

So, Mister President, in another demonstration of your unprecedented presidential ineptitude, you just unleashed five, ferociously rabid, bloody-tusked, Islamic boars on our world and our troops for a weak-ass, whiny, little piglet traitor that would fit neatly under Bill Clinton’s arm.

Not a smart trade, Sir…

Now the Military can execute Bergdahl for desertion.

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/not_a_smart_trade_sir.html
Obama got his pig, and I make no apology for that ... (show quote)



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Number of deserters executed since the civil war? One. Private Eddy Slovik, in 1945.

It's extremely hard to prove a person had no intention to return to "military control". Designating soldiers AWOL, rather than as deserters, is how "absentees" are dealt with, usually, by this nation.

A call for execution is little more than what pigeons do in the park, puff up their chests, to impress others.

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Jun 2, 2014 11:19:03   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Number of deserters executed since the civil war? One. Private Eddy Slovik, in 1945.

It's extremely hard to prove a person had no intention to return to "military control". Designating soldiers AWOL, rather than as deserters, is how "absentees" are dealt with, usually, by this nation.

A call for execution is little more than what pigeons do in the park, puff up their chests, to impress others.


Eddy must have been pretty old - having deserted in the civil war (ended 1865) and executed 80 years later (1945) - would seem execution might not have taken much

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Jun 2, 2014 11:20:27   #
Comment Loc: California
 
saveamerica wrote:
Obama got his pig, and I make no apology for that description of PFC Bergdahl (he was promoted to sergeant while being held captive) for this is where this discussion turns deadly serious. As a former non-commissioned officer who served in combat with another airborne unit, my first reaction upon hearing of Bergdahl’s desertion many years ago was, get him back, give him a fair court-martial and put him in front of a firing squad. Good, honorable paratroopers lost their lives searching for this treasonous bastard. Various sources from Bergdahl’s unit, the 501st Airborne Infantry are reporting in around the Web with this information:

PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl.

Those deaths, every single one, are on Bergdahl’s head. For the squeamish among you who find my opinion too harsh, here’s Article 85 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the statutory regulation dealing with desertion:
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

And there is damning evidence against PFC Bergdahl from those in his unit. He made no secret of his disillusionment with America, sending emails to his parents, one of which contained this statement, “The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools...I am sorry for everything here”
Notice that non-capitalization of American. A fellow trooper, Jason Fry, has reported that Bergdahl told him, "If this deployment is lame, I'm just going to walk off into the mountains of Pakistan."

So yes, we can court-martial this dishonorable deserter whose selfish views and actions caused all those unnecessary deaths and take his life or lock him away for the rest of it for the simple reason that the son of a bitch walked out on his band of brothers in an active combat zone in an act of betrayal that caused the deaths of his brothers in arms who willingly went in search of him, to save his sorry, weasel ass. Those events have immeasurable consequences on those both above and below his rank that he deserted. There is no greater crime that a combat infantryman can commit than desertion to the enemy on the battlefield. Were he to be judged by his fellow paratroopers, he’d be dead in the blink of an eye for the deaths that he caused. He willingly manipulated and violated the code of, “No man left behind,” for his own selfish sense of fulfillment that proved deadly to troopers in the 501st Infantry, and who knows how many more in special operations, who sent in patrols for years trying to find this weak-ass traitor.

So, Mister President, in another demonstration of your unprecedented presidential ineptitude, you just unleashed five, ferociously rabid, bloody-tusked, Islamic boars on our world and our troops for a weak-ass, whiny, little piglet traitor that would fit neatly under Bill Clinton’s arm.

Not a smart trade, Sir…

Now the Military can execute Bergdahl for desertion.

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/not_a_smart_trade_sir.html
Obama got his pig, and I make no apology for that ... (show quote)


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Jun 2, 2014 11:27:44   #
Brian Devon
 
Dave wrote:
Eddy must have been pretty old - having deserted in the civil war (ended 1865) and executed 80 years later (1945) - would seem execution might not have taken much




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Dave, have you ever tried reading for comprehension??? Private Slovik was a WWII soldier.

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Jun 2, 2014 13:23:25   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
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saveamerica-great info: Two things come to mind. 1. We now have established an exchange rate of 5 to 1 with terrorists. Don't believe we have negotiated with terrorists in the past. 2. No Man Left Behind-looks like Obama has already forgotten about the four he left behind in Benghazi all of whom were loyal Americans. The one he chose to save may not be as worthy as those he left behind. Takes the VA off the front page for a day or two but it will re-surface. Good Luck America !!!

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Jun 2, 2014 16:40:37   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Dave, have you ever tried reading for comprehension??? Private Slovik was a WWII soldier.


Perhaps you should read what you wrote - a little more care and less arrogance would be helpful for you -

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Jun 2, 2014 20:32:37   #
saveamerica Loc: Texas
 
Ricko wrote:
saveamerica-great info: Two things come to mind. 1. We now have established an exchange rate of 5 to 1 with terrorists. Don't believe we have negotiated with terrorists in the past. 2. No Man Left Behind-looks like Obama has already forgotten about the four he left behind in Benghazi all of whom were loyal Americans. The one he chose to save may not be as worthy as those he left behind. Takes the VA off the front page for a day or two but it will re-surface. Good Luck America !!!



Ricko your right, and America needs all the help it can get until Obama is in Jail.

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Jun 3, 2014 06:20:52   #
rjoeholl
 
Brian, how the fuck would you know?
Brian Devon wrote:
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Number of deserters executed since the civil war? One. Private Eddy Slovik, in 1945.

It's extremely hard to prove a person had no intention to return to "military control". Designating soldiers AWOL, rather than as deserters, is how "absentees" are dealt with, usually, by this nation.

A call for execution is little more than what pigeons do in the park, puff up their chests, to impress others.

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